[Arcli9ht]

Is there a bolt .223 that takes M16 mags on the market?

/Arcli9ht

edit: It's always best to have your sig line(s) longer than your entire post. :neener:

[Ian]

I've seen photos of some Enfields modified to fire 7.62x39 from single-stack AK mags, but I don't know of any bolt guns using AR mags.

[cordex]

Bolt-action ARs can be had, but somehow I'm guessing that's not what you're looking for.

Leitner-Wise had a more "standard" bolt-action rifle that took M16 mags listed on their website for a time, but not any longer. Not sure if they ever worked the kinks out of it.

[Andrew Wyatt]

I'm working on something like that.


I need to find an ar-15 barrel, bolt, and fire control parts, though.


the gun'll be a straight pull that has a conventional stock, and uses the aforementioned AR parts on a shorter, tubular reciever.

[Kor]

I seem to remember that SWAT Magazine did a write-up on a British-made .223 bolt-action rifle that fed from M16 mags - it would have been shortly after the Assault Weapon Ban of '94 took effect, and they were trying to tout it as an inexpensive patrol rifle for departments that couldn't afford AR15's and/or jurisdictions that prohibited AR15's. It sounded pretty good on paper - chrome-lined military M16 barrel WITH flash-hider AND bayonet lug, about a 30-degree bolt-lift, short bolt-throw, low recoil and lotsa shots before reloading - I would've liked to have one just for the sheer fun of shooting it.

As I recall, the REAL reason these rifles were designed was for the admittedly limited Practical Shooting market in the UK, for use in their version of 3-gun/Practical Rifle competition - since semi-autos had been banned and confiscated after the "Dunblane Massacre," the British practical riflemen had to resort to rifles like these in order to continue their sport. BTW, another neat British "rule-beater" gun I had heard of was a highly-modified Browning BLR .223 lever-gun that fed from Mini-14 mags - which would also be such a cool gun to shoot...

[P0832177]

Mo's Competitor Supplies & Range, Inc. -- MCS Inc., 34 Delmar Dr., Brookfield, Connecticut 06804 ph:203/775-1013

I thought at one time did conversion on Win 70's or Rem 700 for either 223 using AR mags or 308 using M14 mags.

I thought Robar did one too, as I recall it was like 700 bucks!

But now it seems that the best deal might be
H-S Precision (http://www.hsprecision.com/Default.htm) It uses their magazines. http://www.hsprecision.com/images/floorplate.jpg

[Soap]

Try calling Leitner-Wise. I seem to recall they produced one briefly.

http://www.leitner-wise.com

[gun-fucious]

except for the .499, i kinda doubt if Leitner Wise ever produced anything for sale

[Badger Arms]

It's really confusing that anybody would want a bolt-action that takes M16 magazines. Please enlighten me. When are you going to have to shoot more than 5 rounds from a bolt action? If you need to, why don't you just get a quality AR-15... they are every bit as accurate as the best bolt action out there and they're DESIGNED to use the magazine.

I think I'd rather see an FAL-magazine in a Bolt Action. Reason being that automatic rifles in .308 tend to be too heavy for my tastes.

[BDM]

Think about it if you want a .223 bolt gun for short to medium range work you have ammo and mag commonality wich is a big benneifit in a well thought out brace of Arms now 2 rifles same mag same ammo.I would use 20s for a lower profile?20 from a bolt gun?not bad.

[Correia]

There was an Australian company at the 2001 SHOT show that had Enfields chambered in .223 that used AR mags, 7.62x39 that used AK mags, and a .308 that used (I want to say FAL, but can't recall). I never heard anything from them again. Really groovy stuff.

[Andrew Wyatt]

If you need to, why don't you just get a quality AR-15...


get a glock. :rolleyes:

[uglygun]

Easy question to answer but hard to swallow once you hear the price of the things.



TUBB 2000 bolt action....

http://www.zediker.com/tubb/tubbgun.html


Then some time back I could swear that I saw a conversion for Rem 700s that used a replacement stock that was very similar to an Accuracy International Chassis system with the way it bolts to the receiver and the stock attaches. But it had fully adjustable cheek rests and buttpads like the TUBB 2000. I kinda didn't learn too much more about it though after the builder/designer started getting snooty when I asked him if he had any plans to use synthetic materials rather than wood, I didn't like the wooden pistol grip and when I suggested he perhaps look at the Sierra Precision Rifles grips he went into typical gunshow egomaniac mode. Honestly, his pistol grips attached to the frame in a manner very similar to how an AR15 grip attaches but not quite, just one little change in how he radiused a corner and he could have opened up a world of diverse AR15 target pistol grips to use along with his design.


Anyhow, it was 3 years ago at some gunshow and I can't remember the name of the dude's company. Though I'd be concerned that if a AR15 magazine were to be used with an M700 the magazine might need a bit of modification to allow clearance for the bolt. AR15 bolt lugs have a nice fit for interfacing and feeding the rounds, the rounded face of the 700 bolt may cause problems if the feed lips weren't opened up a bit.

[4v50 Gary]

PO832177: is that trigger guard steel or aluminum? Might I ask how much?

[Soap]

gun-fucious,

Yeah...L-W pretty much defines the word "Vaporware".

[seeker_two]

I'd be satisfied if Ruger would make their Model 96 leverguns to take Mini-14 or AR mags...:D

[SDC]

There is/was? a British company making AR mag-fed bolt-actions in a variety of configurations; they had a sniper version called the "Snicam", a carbine version called the "Milcam", and one or two others. Here's the only web info I could find, though: http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2200/2284.htm

[Tamara]

It's really confusing that anybody would want a bolt-action that takes M16 magazines. Please enlighten me.

Why ask why?

Because it'd be cool. Different. Funky.

If you were the first kid on your block to fabricate one, it'd be unique.

If you could build a bunch of conversion kits, they'd probably sell well in states with goofy semiauto regs.

"Because it's there." -George Leigh Mallory

[Radagast]

Correia

The guns you are thinking of are the Australian International Arms M10. They are a modified no.4 action.

Currently they are being manufactured and sold in 7.62 x 39.
The 308 version with with No.4 MkII full wood should be available around Xmas. Depending on who I speak to, the .223 is either Vapourware or available early next year.
There is a US importer but I don't know who. Below are a couple of Aussie links about the gun.

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/new/rifle-m10.html

http://www.gunsgame.com/images/jul_sep2003/big/p82.jpg

Radagast

[VictorLouis]

with an article by Gary Paul Johnston. I also recall the rifle as being from Spain. Either Kor, or me are on to it.;)

[hksw]

Although it looks like it might, I don't think the TUBB 2000 is offerred in .223. I'm sure you can probably special order one in that round.

[Monte Harrison]

The guns you are thinking of are the Australian International Arms M10. They are a modified no.4 action.Isn't that cute!

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/new/images/rifles/M10A3-carbine.JPG

[Wes_Tulsa]

You might be thinking of the T.U.B.B. 2000 made and used by David Tubb, the high-power champion.

http://www.zediker.com/tubb/images/tubbgun/t2kmediumbig.jpg