1911 Magazines
Nightcrawler
July 21, 2003, 04:55 PM
I only have two mags for my new Colt. So, I'm going to order some new mags from CDNN.
Are Chip McCormicks good?
What about "Mitchell" manufacture?
Mec-Gars? I know their other magazines are all top-notch.
Yes, yes, I know, "buy Wilsons", but Wilsons are expensive.
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Sean Smith
July 21, 2003, 04:57 PM
Buy Wilsons. ;)
If you want to go cheaper, get Metalforms. But you can find good deals on Wilsons if you shop around.
Nightcrawler
July 21, 2003, 05:10 PM
Doesn't Metalform make the magazines for Colt, Kimber, and Springfield? The mags I have have a welded baseplate with "COLT 45 AUTO" on the bottom, with a little Colt pony and the letter "C" up in the corner. They're 7-rounders, and have a little dimple in the follower (what is this for?).
I'm thinking I'm going to buy some Chip McCormicks. A search ont he topic revealed that they're generally well liked, and I can get a good deal on them from CDNN.
Wilsons seem to typically run $25+ a piece, whereas I can get CMC mags from CDNN for $12.99. If CMC is a quality brand, it's hard to argue with that price.
I understand that you shouldn't leave the 8-rounders loaded for extended periods of time, but quality 7-round mags seem to work well, even if left loaded for years.
Also, why does anyone not recommend Mec-Gar 1911 mags? Mec-Gar makes magazines for companies like Sig, and they're some of the most sought-after pre-ban magazines for the wondernines. Are their 1911 magazines inferior somehow?
raz-0
July 21, 2003, 05:25 PM
I use chip mccormick mags and like them (8 rounders, just picked up some 10s, but haven't used them yet). In poking around looking for info on 10 rounders for use in limited 10 IPSC shooting, I found a review wehre they compared metalform, ed brown, chip mccormick, and wilson combat by handing them out to folkss to try for the day at a shoot. Wish I had kept the link handy.
The metalform (metalforms with round followers, about $28 a pop) tied with ed brown (which were just relabeled metalforms of the same kind it seems). The CMC ones were the next most reliable. And the wilson combat ones came up last.
But to put it in perspective you were talking zero failures, zero failures, one failure, and 3 failures. IIRC they outfitted two people with each brand or something like that and let them run the course.
As far as flush fitting magazines, I haven't had any problems with my 8-round CMC shooting stars, and my friend hasn't had any problem with his 8 round wilson's. (I think the wilsons poke out some, but hey)
spacemanspiff
July 21, 2003, 05:27 PM
1. buy a defensive firearm = $hundreds and hundreds of dollars
2. buy enough ammo to break firearm in = hundreds and hundreds of dollars, unless you reload
3. ask for the cheapest magazines to put in your high-quality weapon.
4. look for the cheapest holster to carry your high quality weapon loaded with low quality magazines.
???? what gives? your weapon is useless if the feed device is sub-par. thats just my humble opinion anyways.
Nightcrawler
July 21, 2003, 05:34 PM
Well, Mr. Spiff, has it occured to you that after spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on this gun, I don't have that much money left over? LOL
Seriously, why pay $25.00 a pop for Wilson magazines if $13.00 CMCs will work just as good? I don't want to pay extra for a brand name. Whether you buy your pants at Wal-Mart or you buy your pants at a trendy boutique in the mall, they're all made in Malaysia...
And I never once mentioned a holster. Go rant in somebody else's thread.
John Forsyth
July 21, 2003, 05:59 PM
I have used Wilson-Rogers, Chip McCormick, and Metalform. All worked in some pistols, some worked in all pistols.
The CMC Shooting Stars work great as range mags, but seem to get beat up when used in IDPA (they hit the ground a lot). For that reason I only use mags with removable bases, i.e., CMC Power Mags and Wilson-Rogers in my .45's. Easier to clean and work on.
VG
July 21, 2003, 08:34 PM
I use CMC Shooting Stars 8 rounders and 10 rounders with out a hitch....I just choose chip's mags ...but that is cuz that's all the local shop carries on hand.
Rusher
George Hill
July 21, 2003, 08:47 PM
spacemanspiff has a point.
Cawdor
July 21, 2003, 08:49 PM
I use 7 round Mec-Gars in my Springfield. They have not been a problem, but I also have not had a problem with the factory Springfield mags.
Try Mid-South (http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/deptsearch3x.asp?dept=%47%55%4E%20%43%41%52%45%20%26%20%41%43%43%2E&dept2=%4D%41%47%41%5A%49%4E%45%53&dept3=%43%4F%4C%54%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20) for Mec-Gars.
1911Tuner
July 21, 2003, 09:06 PM
Howdy Nightcrawler. If you want good magazines on the cheap, go online and find Metalform. Get the 7-round blued magazines with round follower
for about 9 bucks a pop when you order 10 or more. Cut out the
middle man by ordering direct. Call them toll-free and ask for Ginny.
Their round followers are getting excellent reports for reliability, and
I intend to order a few soon for evaluation.
The dimple in the center of the follower is there to keep the last round
from walking out of the magazine when the tension is lowest, and the inertial bounce of the round is likely. Inertia during recoil causes the
spring to "float" for a split second, and the last round isn't held against
the feed lips. As the pistol torques rearward and the slide hits the impact surface, the round winds up ahead of where it needs to be for a controlled feed, resulting in push-feeds and extractor snap-over. In some cases,
the round can escape and the slide locks back, leaving the round lying on
top.
The occurence is gets more frequent as the spring gets tired...so the
dimple acts to keep magazine function less dependent on spring tension.
The Colt magazines with the "C" are of Colt manufacture. The ones with
an "M" on the base are Metalform...as are McCormicks, Springfield.
and Kimber.
If anybody would like a full description of the inertial action, I'll be
happy to post on a new thread with moderator approval, since it's
a little long.
Hope this answers some questions,
Tuner
RSKING45
July 21, 2003, 10:12 PM
I have tryed alot of different brands and liked the Chip McCormick the best.I have 8 and 10round mags for years now and havent had any problems yet.
Rich
SAWBONES
July 21, 2003, 10:41 PM
Like John Farnam says when it comes to life-saving gear, "economize elsewhere".
Reliable magazines are an absolute necessity.
Don't scrimp on quality!
I've used GI, Wilson, Baer, CMC Shooting Star, Metalform, Mec-Gar, Colt, Wolff and Tripp's.
BY FAR, the Wolff and Tripp magazines are THE best, but they're also the most expensive. (Tripp's are $45 each.)
A good compromise is Metalforms, using their rounded steel follower. Not too expensive, and quite reliable, as well as pretty durable.
railroader
July 22, 2003, 01:41 AM
Nightcrawler, I have mccormick, mecgar, wilson and novak mags for my kimber and they all work. I'm pretty sure the novak's are mecgar 8 round mags like they sell at cdnn for about $8, they have a removable base and they work just fine. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/col1945ac8rd1.html Mark
Art Eatman
July 22, 2003, 07:22 AM
Funny-odd about mags, mag quality and mag problems. I'm still having no difficulty with GI mags that were "new" (?) around 1970. They've survived a couple of years of IPSC during the early 1980s. I've had some Brand X unknowns that needed some tweaking on the lips, but they then worked okay.
:), Art
Nightcrawler
July 22, 2003, 08:42 AM
See, here's the thing. Wilson has a pretty good marketing campaign going. They've got half the country convinced, it seems, that they make the world's only reliable 1911 magazine. So they sell them at $25 to $30 a pop, and tell people "it's worth it if you bet your life on your gun". People buy 1911s, practically throw away the factory mags that come with it, and buy the Wilsons. Pretty good racket they got going.
However, considering that all the companies out there seem to be quite capable of making functional magazines for all the other guns, I don't really believe that Wilsons are the only ones that work. Will I buy a couple? Probably. But I like to have a LOT of magazines for my weapons (for nothing else, it makes range trips more convenient). A lot of wilson magazines would run into the hundreds of dollars, and it simply isn't worth it if a CMC or Metalform, or even a GI magazine, works just as well.
Besides, it seems to me that people were depending on 1911s for self defense long before anyone had ever heard of Wilson Combat.
Now, if their mags were truly the only ones worth anything, then yeah, I'd go for it.
AndABeer
July 22, 2003, 08:45 AM
For .45 ACP, I like McCormick 8-round Power Mags
Funny thing is that I like them for my 10mms too :evil:
45auto
July 22, 2003, 08:55 AM
Like some here, I just don't have mag problems with various brands.
I own Wilson, Shooting Star and Mec-gar and they all work great.
All need spring replacements when weak and back to reliable function.
The Wilson "looks" stronger than the others and has a lifetime warranty, but their follower and spring replacement is $8.00. I can buy CMC springs for $4.00 including shipping and don't need to replace the follower.
I am going to try CMC Power mags also.
I do like the removable base now.
I think it depends on whether you consider mags a lifetime item.
If so, buy the Wilsons, pay the price and in 15 years, if they are all banged up, send them back for replacement. During that time period, if you shoot a lot with 8 round mags, you will have spent quite a bit for replacement springs and followers so you will get back some of your money.
For some of the others, buy the cheaper spring replacements and toss them when they are split or bent- if and when that happens.
If this sounds like I am trying to be cheap with mags- I'm not.
I just haven't found a 'working' difference between the three mags- yet.
I suspect the Wilson is the most durable...but!
I actually like the Mec-gar design the best, it seems to lock the mag in better than the others(less play) in my guns. I don't believe they will be as durable as CMC or Wilson.
It doesn't hurt to have different 'quality' mags for different uses, as long as they work.
ACP230
July 22, 2003, 09:05 AM
SARCO is selling new seven-round mags for $5.95 each.
They have some other seven-round mags for the .45 @ $9.95 each, and stainless "Shooting Star brand" eight rounders for $11.95.
Their website is www.sarcoinc.com.
Edward429451
July 22, 2003, 09:20 AM
My original Colt mag works good. My old Wilson-Rogers works good. My 8 rnd Mag-Pac works good.
3 of the 4 new Wilson mags work good so far. I E-Mailed Wilson about the one bad mag that ejects the 7th round prematurely and jams on it. They didn't even respond to my E-Mail. Its got me wondering about them.
10-Ring
July 22, 2003, 11:13 AM
I prefer the Wilson mags, but I've had good luck w/ McCormicks too.
SouthpawShootr
July 22, 2003, 12:25 PM
Chip McCormick sells two brands of mags under McCormick name. One is Shooting Star (typically about $15), the other is the Powermag. Powermags are premium and typically are priced up there with Wilsons (~$30). From what I've heard Kimber factory mags are Shooting Stars. These things are widely criticized on just about every board I've visited. I bought a Kimber TLE and I'll tell you, I'm not impressed with the mag at all. First time I tried it, I had 2 jams. I bought 4 Wilsons, no more problems. Also, have a number of old Colt mags Never had a problem with either Wilson or Colt. It really is you get what you pay for. If you're looking for range mags, then CMC Shooting Stars are good for that application. Defense? Buy the better quality ones.
Art Eatman
July 22, 2003, 12:29 PM
Re: "Weak Springs".
Somebody explain something to me about magazine springs. Back some 20+ years ago, I was shown how to make a 7-round magazine into an 8-rounder. It involved cutting a "Z" out of the spring plus a couple of other tweaks. So, I modified a couple of them. There is obviously a good bit less spring pressure, particularly for the last two or three rounds.
I don't know how many cycles they've been put through since around 1982. Bunches, for sure. But, they have always worked, and still work.
Since I've never had a failure to feed, I don't understand the problem.
Art
AndABeer
July 22, 2003, 12:32 PM
Powermags are premium and typically are priced up there with Wilsons (~$30).
Power Mags are less than 20 from Midway.
Nightcrawler
July 22, 2003, 01:00 PM
I ordered four Chip McCormick eight round "Powermags" from Cheaper than Dirt for roughly $18.00 apiece. That's about what I'd pay for a Mec-Gar CZ-97 mag, so it's no huge deal. I'm tempted to try one of those KRD nine/ten round 1911 mags that CDNN has. KRD is Argentinian Military, I believe, and their High Power mags have good reputations.
noklue3
July 22, 2003, 01:17 PM
I like the Mec-Gar nickle plated 8 rounders. Never had a problem with them in any 1911.
Art
AZ Jeff
July 22, 2003, 04:33 PM
Although there are other magazines on the market that are just as reliable (as others have noted), Wilson has one thing going for his .45ACP mags that make them have an edge---they are easy to disassemble for cleaning.
This may not be a big deal on CCW, but for an IPSC shooter, dropping mags in the dirt is a way of life. Being able to clean them between stages, to insure reliability, is a real benefit. The WIlson's come apart for cleaning easier than any other brand, based on my 15 years of shooting IPSC.
Now if they would only make them in other calibers...........
jrpeterman
July 22, 2003, 04:47 PM
Nightcrawler:
Check out http://www.arizonagunrunners.com] for 1911 magazines and for your CZ-97B (the Mecgar 45 Witness is identical).
railroader
July 23, 2003, 12:13 AM
Nightcrawler, the KRD hipower mags are fine, the KRD 1911 mags I got from CDNN weren't. They were tight in the magwell and they wouldn't lock the slide on my kimber. I sent them back. Mark
Jammer Six
November 9, 2004, 04:17 PM
Howdy Nightcrawler. If you want good magazines on the cheap, go online and find Metalform. Get the 7-round blued magazines with round follower
for about 9 bucks a pop when you order 10 or more.
Hope this answers some questions,
Tuner
Actually, it RAISES a question!
Tuner, in another thread, you said to order the FLAT follower! :scrutiny:
Which one has the dimple, the round follower or the flat follower? :confused:
R.H. Lee
November 9, 2004, 05:11 PM
I've got a bunch of 7 rd. Metalforms with the round follower and they work flawlessly in both a Colt and a Springer.
1911Tuner
November 9, 2004, 05:59 PM
Since this one came back up, I feel the need to amend something. I tried the Metalform mags equipped with round followers, and while they did pretty well in some guns...they didn't do so well in others. The problem was related to the springs...which are a little soft for some set-ups, and while extra-power Wolff springs are available for those particular followers...Brownells doesn't carry'em.
When I asked about a spring upgrade at Metalform, I was told that they didn't offer the upgrade for that magazine just yet, and I'd have to go directly to Wolff.
That may have changed since this thread was raised...but if not, be aware that
the springs are pricey...and standard springs won't work with those followers.
I apologize for the bum steer...I was under the impression that the answer to the
problem of flat followers damaging alloy frames had been addressed...but apparently not just yet...and I forgot to post a report on the followers. The magazines do well in most 5-ich guns, provided that they aren't oversprung. Commander-length and shorter with higher spring rates still pose something of a problem in rougnly a third of the guns they were tested in.
Luck!
Tuner
Shmackey
November 9, 2004, 11:11 PM
Tuner:
I've used the round-follower Metalforms with the Wolff extra-power springs. I had FTFs that I didn't have with Wilsons or Tripps. Maybe if they could get a dimple into that round follower...
sm
November 9, 2004, 11:28 PM
What Art and Tuner said.
I prefer the original 7 rd with the dimple for serious situations.
I have some old Wilson 8 rdrs and CMC 8rdrs, they work, and have been carried in CCW guns.
I get rich - I'm gonna buy 2-4 dozen more of the original 7 rd design with the dimple. Metalform , unless I find a stash of USGI or Old Colts.
I can live without a basepad, I used to make my own out of wood...I like that look and feel better still. ;)
Older I get , the more I realize what I don't know. I also better understand why and how the original designs still work best. Being human and a male - yeah - I piddled with some newfangled ideas though. ;)
Art, Old Fuff I can understand...Tuner and I are close in age...we ain't supposed to be "old farts" - yet. :p
J/K
MM
November 9, 2004, 11:43 PM
What are the odds the weapon will have to save your life or that of another?
What do you need to do to satisfy yourself that weapon is as reliable as you can make it?
I have never had any problems with Wilson mags, the same cannot be said for others I have tried. They have, so far, shooting literally thousands of rounds thru both my Kimber Ultra and my 5" Colt over Essex, never failed to feed, with whatever round I have used. Not one tap and rack drill was ever necessary (even tho much practiced).
"Solo mi dos centavos"
SatCong
1911Tuner
November 10, 2004, 05:11 AM
Schmackey...Did you get last round failures after the magazine had been used for a while? My experience was that they worked well in the beginning, but started
gettin' persnickety after about 25 cycles.
That follower design is actually pretty ingenious...but it needs more than just the
slight upward angle on the top. I don't think a dimple would work because of that angle, but a shallow trench across the release point to catch the cartridge rim just might do it.
I'll probably do a thread on those things later today. Kinda interesting how I
started out in favor of'em...and later had to recant the endorsement...and it all started with a call to Metalform.
___________________
Satkong asked:
>>What are the odds the weapon will have to save your life or that of another?<<
Well...If your only reason for owning the gun is to punch holes in paper or knock down falling plates...The odds are very small to non-existent. If you own the gun primarily for carry/defensive purposes...even small odds can suddenly become very big concerns. A pistol is like an ambulance. You don't often need one, but when you do...you need it badly and you need it immediately. You also don't want to have to wait until somebody can find a set of jumper cables to jump-start the ambulance because they failed to tend to the minor details.
_____________________
And:
>>What do you need to do to satisfy yourself that weapon is as reliable as you can make it?<<
I can't speak for anybody else here...but I'm willing to spend time to reduce the chances of a malfunction to a bare minimum. There are no guarantees, and 100%
reliability with any machine is a statistical impossibility...but we can closely approach that in a 1911 with just a little attention to detail. If you have confidnece in your weapon, you'll tend to do much better if and when the flag flies.
Ask yourself a hard question:
"If you knew that you were going to be attacked, and all you had to choose from was one pistol, would you want one that had failed to function one time in a thousand rounds...or would you be okay with one that had failed to function once every 200 rounds?" ( And please don't throw revolvers into the soup.
Some of us have chosen autopistols over revolvers for some very sound reasons.
I'll carry a revolver on occasion, depending on certain circumstances...but 99%
of the time, my sidearm is a 1911. Besides...revolvers can malfunction too.)
The odds are that you won't be struck by lightning...or win the lottery...or be involved in an auto accident...but all those things do happen. If you should
suddenly find yourself UTYAIA, you want that pistol to work...Period.
Rob96
November 10, 2004, 06:52 AM
A good magazine I found was the High Standard gov't contract mags, that Midway was selling for $4.95.They have very strong mag springs. I have used these in my two Colts and my brothers Kimber, with no problems.
1911Tuner
November 10, 2004, 07:05 AM
A good magazine I found was the High Standard gov't contract mags, that Midway was selling for $4.95.They have very strong mag springs. I have used these in my two Colts and my brothers Kimber, with no problems.
Howdy Rob,
I've heard several good reports on those magazines, but haven't had a chance to
try any yet. I wonder how the base welds are holdin' up.
I may have to investigate this further... :scrutiny: I know...It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it. :p
Rob96
November 10, 2004, 07:15 AM
Howdy Rob,
I've heard several good reports on those magazines, but haven't had a chance to
try any yet. I wonder how the base welds are holdin' up.
I may have to investigate this further... :scrutiny: I know...It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it. :p
Well if it means anything 'Tuner. When I am at the range, and I have it to myself, I do drills where I let the mag drop to the ground on the crushed stone. Holding up very well.
Kermit911
November 10, 2004, 07:25 AM
Go with Wilsons. Better to be safe then sorry
1911Tuner
November 10, 2004, 09:01 AM
Well if it means anything 'Tuner. When I am at the range, and I have it to myself, I do drills where I let the mag drop to the ground on the crushed stone. Holding up very well.
Good sign...I'm more interested in how they do when the magazine is topped off and locked in the gun long term. It's usually long-term stress that gets'em.
____________________________
Kermit said:
Go with Wilsons. Better to be safe then sorry.
Howdy Kermit, and welcome aboard. Not tryin' to be a jerk or anything...but experience with Wilson 47Ds led me to the conclusion that a body couldn't throw one and hit me with it. The do well in some guns...but they ain't exactly the
final word in mags. With the slick followers and the stock springs that they come with, they're more suited to guns tuned for "Softball" target loads than anything else. I've just seen too many fail to be able to recommend'em for carry.
Cheers!
Tuner
Old Fuff
November 10, 2004, 12:16 PM
Back about a half-century ago this poor Old Fuff started shooting 1911 .45’s. The first one was a war surplus USGI Ithaca, and if the young folks here knew what it cost back then they might all go jump off a bridge ...
But anyway ....
Didn’t have Wilson
Didn’t have CMC
Didn’t have Metalforms
Didn’t have Powermags
Didn’t have Shooting Stars
Didn't have Mec Gar's
And ya know ... we didn’t have jams. Them cheap, junky, can’t hit nothing past 5 yards, pistols just kept running and running ... with nothing but the magazines that came in them.
I just don’t know how John Browning ever got a pistol to run without having any of these new-fangled magazines ... :uhoh: :evil: :D
1911Tuner
November 10, 2004, 01:08 PM
Fuff said:
I just don’t know how John Browning ever got a pistol to run without having any of these new-fangled magazines ...
I do! I do!!
Good steel...good springs...hardened followers with a correctly located dimple of the correct shape...He specified spring tempered steel for the extractors...
and 230-grain bullets at 830 fps (+/- 25)
I've got quite a few of those old magazines too Fuff...I had to replace the springs in'em recently. Sorta ticked me off, since they were only about 70 years old. :D
Old Fuff
November 10, 2004, 04:39 PM
And while you're at it changing the springs don't forget to go over them with a little silver paint so folks at the range will think they're stainless ... :neener: :evil: :D
1911Tuner
November 10, 2004, 04:48 PM
And while you're at it changing the springs don't forget to go over them with a little silver paint so folks at the range will think they're stainless ... :neener: :evil: :D
Fuff...Put the spray can down and back away slowly...and nobody gets hurt. :scrutiny:
sm
November 10, 2004, 04:54 PM
If'n you use Gold paint, folks will think you are really "trick" - not everyone has the nitride finished ones.... :uhoh: :neener:
It may not sing...but got bling... :D
Old Fuff - you never sent the forms to become a Reprobate...I'm waiting. :)
raz-0
November 10, 2004, 05:03 PM
well as an update, the tripps are now more like $25 than $45. Also, I ahve put a lot of rounds through my CMC powermags. They seemed to get sketchy after a lot of rounds. However, I figured out what it wasthat was killing htem and how to fix it.
The front half of the lips were getting flared after a lot of use and making them not drop free. Trying to bend them back by hand made them sometimes not feed properly. The thing that worked for me was to take a piece of brass,a 230gr jacketed .451 diameter bullet, and seat it completley in the case backwards (no powder or primer of course), and lod it into the mag before using pliers to squeeze the font lips in. Keeps you from squeezing too far or deforming the rear half of them.
I now find myself with a whole lot of CMC mags that work as good or better than new.
P.S. I use them for limited 10 in ipsc so they get a fair bit of abuse. stepped on now and then.
poesraven
November 10, 2004, 05:08 PM
About the cmc and kimber mags/ I use both, "but" while doing cleaning I noticed gouges in the ramp, :what: , mainly on my CDP , my stainless ones are noticable also but not as bad as the CDP. I called cmc, they said yes they are hearing about this but have no imed plans to change the followers, But the rep did offer to refund my cost of the mags if I had the reciept -FAT CHANCE of finding that, also he mentioned I may want to look into wilson for followers. Kimber stated "yea its gouges but it'll stop once it sets in :what: , and they also have no plans to change followers. Makes me wonder why I didn't buy wilson from the start, But being DUMB & DUMBER back then... I am really appreciative for THR, and other sites like this to really get 1st hand knowlege from experienced shooters like yourselves. Also I did get the wilsons for my cdp and they function flawless, and soon will get the followers for the other mags.
Zonamo
November 10, 2004, 07:25 PM
About the cmc and kimber mags/ I use both, "but" while doing cleaning I noticed gouges in the ramp, mainly on my CDP... Also I did get the wilsons for my cdp and they function flawless, and soon will get the followers for the other mags.
I also had CMC mags for my CDP and they ran without any problems, but I also noticed some dings in the ramp, and found out it is an issue for any aluminum frame 1911. There is a locked thread on the 1911 forum about it:
McCormick mags and aluminum frames... (http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=61318)
Rather than get rid of the McCormick mags I had, I bought spring and follower kits from Wilson for the CMC mags. So far, they have worked as flawlessly as the Wilsons I own.
Wilson Magazine Springs & Followers (Replacement Parts) (http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_springs_followers.asp)
poesraven
November 10, 2004, 09:13 PM
Zonamo, yes those are the ones, I looked at the link of the damage, mine is close to that, but functions great "yet", the stainless ones have dings/more like fine scratches but not near that of the CDP. They are noticable though. I'm going to polishe them a bit, but not shooting anymore until I get the followers in. And yes those are the followers I'll be picking up from Wilson. TY for the pic link. The only thing that bothers me is Kimbers' attitude about it- but then they are in the market to "sell guns". I
Shmackey
November 11, 2004, 02:05 AM
Did you get last round failures after the magazine had been used for a while? My experience was that they worked well in the beginning, but started
Nope--right off the bat.
1911Tuner
November 11, 2004, 04:49 AM
Nope--right off the bat.
Were they Bolt-Over Base type feeds...Push-feeds (rim ahead of the extractor with round chambered)...or last round jumping the follower and locking the slide
with the round loose in the breech? Do you still have one of'em?
nero45acp
November 11, 2004, 01:15 PM
These are my favorites. Reasonable price, well made, and very reliable.
http://www.precisionsights.com/actmag.html
nero
TheDutchman
November 11, 2004, 04:06 PM
I have a Kimber Pro Combat that will only work 100% with Mec Gar mags, I have tried Wilson, Metalforms and CMPM. The CMPM rides too high , the Wilson and Metalforms will not feed properly with any combination of follower and springs. Plus the Mec Gar's are only $13
DBR
November 12, 2004, 11:09 PM
My favorite at this time is a Chip McCormick Powermag retrofitted with a Tripp Research spring and follower (7rds). Powermags can be had for approx $16. One source is Sportsman's Guide.
wally
November 14, 2004, 10:20 AM
I've had nothing but great success with McCormick Tactical (Shooting Star) 8-rounders from CDNN Investments. They are pretty cheap, about $9 if I remember right. I've over a dozen and all have been good. I didn't install the bumber pads, I'll use the Mec-Gars if I want a protruding bottom.
I've made no attempt to match guns and magazines and they appear to interchange completely amoung my Kimber, Colts, Norinco, & Charles Daly (Armscor).
Intrestingly the CMC 10 rounders work fine in my 5" Kimber, Colts & Norinco but are hopeless in the 4" CD -- timing is everything :)
Mags are pretty much binary in function either they work or they don't. I won't pay $30 for something when something else for $10 works. YMMV.
--wally.
Dave Sample
November 14, 2004, 01:25 PM
Wally: Nice to see another guy who uses the Best.
10-Ring
November 14, 2004, 01:32 PM
I had gone the cheaper route when it came to 1911 mags. Now, I've only got Wilsons! Save the expense of trying cheaper ones & go w/ the Wilsons ;)
Dr.Rob
November 14, 2004, 07:15 PM
Wilsons are cheaper than 'factory' Colt magazines.
CMC's work well in my Colts. I've been happy with them.
No such luck with 'surplus' government magazines, Randalls, etc.
HD
November 15, 2004, 09:07 AM
i loathe wilson mags ...
i can't get them to work reliably in any 1911 i own...
the stuff i rescued from a dealers 'junkbox' ie: randall vega SA unkwn misc milspec etc , all seem to work fine with any ammo i can find thats in spec ...
just bought a 10 pak of SA mags , but may never need them...
if the guns within orig.specs the mags shouldn't be a worry if they fit the "general" specs ...
but what do i know ?
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