New 2nd Gen. Colts, difficult to take apart?


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jphendren
December 6, 2007, 01:32 PM
I recently picked up a new in box 2nd Gen. Colt Walker. I removed the wedge very easily, but after that the gun refused to come apart. Is this normal for these? I know that they have been sitting in some type of rust inhibitor for decades that has probably hardened into glue.

Jared

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barman
December 6, 2007, 01:38 PM
Have you tried to apply pressure on the loading lever against the cylinder? It usually works.

jphendren
December 6, 2007, 02:12 PM
Have you tried to apply pressure on the loading lever against the cylinder? It usually works

Yes, and now I need a new loading lever. I placed the butt of the revolver on my lap and pressed down on the lever which slightly bent it. I put a thick sock between the loading lever and the cylinder face and it put a ring mark on the front of the cylinder also. I doused the gun (minus wood grips) in Hoppes for several hours and tried tapping on the face of the cylinder from side to side, still with no luck.

Is this normal for these? I was considering picking up another one but not if they are all like this one.

barman
December 6, 2007, 02:42 PM
I'm really sorry to hear about your misfortune.

To answer your question, no, they aren't all like that. You may be right about the cosmoline having solidified over the years, making it extra difficult to remove the barrel.

A brutal solution could be to fire it whitout the wedge towards a bale of hay! :cuss:

Although, you should take it to smith first.. :)

Old Fuff
December 6, 2007, 04:08 PM
Guys....

Use the Old Fuff's Patented Method. It’s guaranteed to work, but if you try it you must send him $1,000.00 (like some software deals I’ve come across). :scrutiny:

1. Remove the barrel wedge and bullet rammer assembly. It is sometimes a good idea to also remove the backstrap/stocks and trigger guard to make things easier to handle.

2. Go to a hardware store and purchase a steel, aluminum or brass rod that will just slip through the hole in the barrel that the bullet rammer usually is installed in. This rod should be about 4 inches or so longer then the barrel, but this length isn’t critical.

Also buy a piece of brass or aluminum that is about 3/16” thick, and wide enough so that you can make a piece about 2” long and wide enough to fit from the bottom of the base pin to the bottom of the cylinder. You want to cover the whole lower cylinder face.

3. Clamp the barrel in a padded vise. Two pieces of clear soft pine on each side of the flat part of the barrel should work fine. Things will go easier if you clamp the barrel upside down.

4. Then slip the 3/16” piece of brass or aluminum in front of the cylinder, covering the lower cylinder face. Next run the rod through the rammer hole in the bottom of the barrel, and up against the 3/16” piece you inserted in front of the cylinder’s face. Now tap on the other end of the rod with a hammer. The 3/16” piece will distribute the pressure over the whole lower half of the cylinder, and the cylinder face will not be marred. After you have moved the frame backwards (which is the whole idea) far enough to clear the two pins in the bottom/front of the frame you should be able to turn the frame was well as continuing to drive it backwards. :)

I wish you luck, and don’t forget to send the Fuff his more then “reasonable” fee… $$$ :evil: :D

rcmodel
December 6, 2007, 04:32 PM
If it's just dried grease, heat the sucker up with a heat-gun and it will probably fall apart and mash your little toe!

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Pancho
December 7, 2007, 12:54 AM
rc, your idea sounds easier than mine I was going to suggest taking off the grips and putting the gun in the oven at 200 degrees.

Pancho
December 8, 2007, 01:58 AM
If you get tired of fooling with it. I know that there will be interested people to buy from you as is.

jphendren
December 8, 2007, 11:09 AM
If you get tired of fooling with it. I know that there will be interested people to buy from you as is.

Any ideas on value? I've noticed on Gunbroker that prices are all over the place. A mint one sold for $443, and another $625, and now there is one for $685 that is still going.

Jared

SixShootinSam
December 8, 2007, 01:24 PM
jphendren, I had the exact same problem with my 2nd gen Walker (see Walker post below) . It was in perfect shape, could get the wedge out (not easily though), but I couldn't pull the barrel. Fortunately the lever trick worked out for me better than with you. Instead of giving it a lot of force at once, I kind of tapped it a few times first (shock effect works better for loosening things up) before I put more force on it and it slid off.
So anyway, I guess your problem is not that uncommon.

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