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Samuraigg December 11, 2007, 10:55 PM As if the Cabela's thing wasn't enough.
www.suffredin.org/legislativelibrary/Legislation.asp?LegislationID=352&Library=cook
Proposed countywide gun registration. "Assault weapons" won't be registrable, nor will handguns without locks and a loaded indicator.
Registration permits need to be renewed annually.
This is one of the scariest anti gun laws I've seen. Start contacting the commissioners.
Here is the ISRA alert
ISRA Action Alert:
TOTAL COOK COUNTY GUN BAN CLEARS FIRST HURDLE
Rabid gun-grabbers on the Cook County Board came one step closer last week to instituting a total ban on firearm ownership in the county – except for police and military personnel.
Introduced by Commissioner William Beavers, the so-called “Safe Streets/Weapons Registration Ordinance” appears on the surface to be some sort of gun registration scheme. However, closer examination reveals that the only people who could comply with the registration requirements would be Chicago residents who had previously registered their guns with the city. Everyone else in Cook County would have to turn in their guns to the police. The ordinance would certainly ban all handguns as the ordinance disallows registration of handguns that do not have a “chamber load” indicator. Few, if any, handguns could comply with this requirement, so they would have to be surrendered to the police.
The full text of Beavers’ proposed ordinance may be found here. To learn more about William Beavers, click this link: http://www.co.cook.il.us/district04.htm .
William Beavers is an enemy to our Constitution and an enemy to all freedom-loving people of the United States. Call him at (312) 603-2065 and also call his other office at (773) 731-1515 and tell them exactly what you think of Beavers and his plan to disarm law-abiding citizens.
Another gun-hater on the Cook County Board is Larry Suffredin. Suffredin has fielded a proposed ordinance that would shut down all gun shops in the county. You may read about that ordinance by clicking here.
Larry Suffredin is an enemy to our Constitution and an enemy to all freedom-loving people of the United States. For full information on Larry Suffredin, click this link: http://www.co.cook.il.us/district13.htm . Call Suffredin at 847-864-1209 and 312-603-6383 and tell them exactly what you think of Larry Suffredin’s plan to punish law-abiding gun owners.
Even if you don’t live in Cook County, or even if you don’t live in Illinois for that matter, call anyway. Freedom is at stake here.
In addition to calling these gun-hating stooges, please do the following:
1. Post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards of which you are a member.
2. Send this alert to all your gun owning friends and ask them to call Beavers and Suffredin too!
Remember – preservation of our 2nd Amendment rights is a cultural imperative. Gun control is a disease; you are the cure!
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FieroCDSP December 11, 2007, 11:45 PM I like this part: It's a requirement of registerable guns.
A load indicator device that provides reasonable warning to potential users such that even users unfamiliar with the weapon would be forewarned and would understand the nature of the warning;
Um....Unless they're meaning an empty-chamber indicator, there is no gun that I know of that provides that. You have to know to look at the peep-hole (Smith M&P), the extractor(some Berettas), or the other indicator (like the pin on the Walther P99). None of them are intuitive to someone unfamiliar with guns.
I hate to say it, folks, but this is yet another start that we're all going to have to hold off at some point. For Bob's sake, they're banning laser accessories with this bill!! Lasers!!! They are so afraid of anything gun, that they are banning harmless accessories. What's next, Streamlights? Night Sights? Holsters? Maybe the cleaning brushes can be used to kill people too, so they should ban those.
To the people of Illinois: You're going to have to get every other county on-board and pass a state pre-emption, like we did here in Ohio. With such passage, we eliminated bans and restrictions in all of our major cities and set everyone to a state standard. If you want to screw Chicago, that is likely the only way.
Javelin December 11, 2007, 11:51 PM This is becoming just rediculous.
Cthulhu December 12, 2007, 02:11 AM Sec. 58-136. Revocation--Denial.
A registration certificate shall be revoked or an application for registration or reregistration shall be denied by the mayor when she finds that:
Anyone catch that? Hrm, I don't see mayor defined in the initial portion of the bill. Beavers, if you are going to cut and paste, you should at least proof read it after the fact.
The truly scary portion of this bill is revealed in the activity log.
In accordance with Cook County Code Section 2-108(z)(1) Amendment or suspension of rules, Commissioner Suffredin, seconded by Commissioner Collins, moved to suspend Section 2-108(h)(1) Prior notice to public; agendas. The motion carried unanimously.
In accordance with Cook County Code Section 2-108(z)(1) Amendment or suspension of rules, Commissioner Suffredin, seconded by Commissioner Collins, moved to suspend Section 2-108(g)(1) Order of business. The motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Beavers, seconded by Commissioner Peraica, moved that the Proposed Ordinance be referred to the Committee on Legislation, Intergovernmental & Veterans Relations. (Comm. No. 290841). The motion carried unanimously.
Thus with a vote they have neatly ignored their own legal requirements to post a public announcement of their agenda and place/time of meeting, fast tracking this bill straight to the committees. While they have different names and numbers for the committees, its all for show. The Committee on Legislation, Intergovernmental & Veterans Relations is, in reality, identical to the Committees on
* Criminal Justice
* Finance
* Health & Hospitals
* Legislation, Intergovernmental & Veterans Relations
* Roads & Bridges
* Zoning & Buildings.
These committees, despite the various titles, are all comprised of the pres and 17 county commissioners. The score is 5 R to 13 D, with only Peraica on record as anti-gun control, yet his name is attached to that last bit of activity. Lets hope that is an indication of strategy, not appeasement. Time to get on the phone again. The worst part is that I can throw a rock and hit Dupage County, but reside in Cook. Gerrymandering at its finest.
Johnnybgood December 12, 2007, 02:17 AM They don't call it Crook County for nothin!
Autolycus December 12, 2007, 02:52 AM This is horrible. I will not return there if it passes. I grew up in Cook county and I finally fled. Soon I will flee IL forever.
Will the chosen few (LEOs) be immune?
Prince Yamato December 12, 2007, 04:26 AM That bill is INSANE. It bans lasers... if you are in possession of a "laser device" in your car, you get a $1000 fine and your car impounded. What the hell is the logic of that? What if it's a bore sighter? I love how the politicians have nothing better to do than just run down a list of gun names. I like how they have the AK-74 in there too. "Aha!" the bastard politician probably said, "I found out about your loophole, you clever letter gun owning devils!".
Seriously, who pooped in his oatmeal the morning he wrote that bill?
ilbob December 12, 2007, 08:54 AM this is the same state that made it a felony to have a hidden compartment in your vehicle. i guess they felt it was better to just leave your valuables out in plain sight so the crooks would have an easier time of it.
the same morons made it a class A misdemeanor to aim a laser pointer at a police officer. not a laser sight mind you a laser pointer. does not even have to be turned on. if you have one in your hand and it is vaguely pointed in the direction of a cop, you are guilty.
romma December 12, 2007, 09:46 AM These People Are Commies! Plain and simple...
MiddleAgedKen December 12, 2007, 10:49 AM Tecumseh, of course the Only Ones(tm) will be exempt.
By any objective reading, the bill constitutes a ban.
Deanimator December 12, 2007, 11:18 AM It's the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state in the Union.
Nothing should surprise you.
MakAttak December 12, 2007, 12:34 PM It's the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state in the Union.
Nothing should surprise you.
Not surprised, but I weep for my home state. I'm just amazed, there are a lot of good, pro-RKBA people all over the state. Of course, that's because Chicago is the 900 Pound Gorilla... WI, you want it?
kayl December 12, 2007, 12:42 PM WI, you want it?
Do we look dumb to you? :-p
DrewH December 12, 2007, 12:47 PM Wow. As I read it this bill:
Bans all (already banned, of course) NFA type firearms
Bans all handguns, meaninglessly grandfathering those that have an loaded chamber requirement written such that no handgun could possibly comply.
Bans_all_other firearms, grandfathering only those owned and registered before it goes into effect!?
Can they push this through? Only hope left for Cook County will be Heller if this passes.
mljdeckard December 12, 2007, 01:01 PM Drew H is absolutely right. The Cook County ban should be the first one we target when Heller is ruled.
Deanimator December 12, 2007, 01:28 PM Duplicate
Deanimator December 12, 2007, 01:31 PM Drew H is absolutely right. The Cook County ban should be the first one we target when Heller is ruled.
If Heller goes the right way, Daley better not look over his shoulder. Something might be gaining on him...
revamp December 12, 2007, 01:45 PM Sigh....I had no idea that Illinois was such a fascist state when I moved here two years ago. I'd move but between a great job and a ****ty housing market right now, I'm kinda stuck.
The laws they are passing here are moving beyond ridiculous.
M110 December 12, 2007, 02:04 PM Called my commissioners office, and the lady said they are getting quite a few calls today.
I really wish I could move, but am stuck for the present.
PILMAN December 12, 2007, 02:14 PM I used to live in c(r)ook county, glad I moved. I will spread the word though.
IllHunter December 12, 2007, 04:18 PM Just a quick note, it's been a while. I have lived in Il. (Lake Co.83-97)(Cook Co. 97 to now) and fought the fight here and in Springfield. I have recently taken a different tack and have taken employ at Cabelas' selling FIREARMS in Cook Co. If you've ever heard the term "money talks and bulls__it walks" This is what it looks like. Cabelas spent +- 87 Mil building in Cook Co. not Lake, not Kane, not DuPage. Why? Cause Hoffman Estates gave 13mil in tax incentives and allowed them to be within 30 miles of +- 12Million people. County board president Stoger has been unable to pass his 3% sales tax agenda (present 8.75% would escalate to 11.75%) and is letting his henchman Beavers take the spotlight off his failure to turn 9 of 17 on the board (3 gop) to his cause. Do any of you usually right thinking readers really believe that Cabelas will desist or that Hoffman Estates will let them default? If you could see what I see you would know that the citizens of the area are well armed and getting better armed each day. I only pray Chicago/Cook county democrats make this huge political mistake in time for the November elections. Especially if the Supremes make the right call in 2008. The Chicago handgun ban will fall in the same breath and Cook County must and will defer to the will of the people. The governor is under investigation and Stroger can't be far behind given how he swindled hid father's position and then hid his cancer during the subsequent election. This board will forever be the example for corrupt government and the stuff is about to hit the fan!!!!
charon December 13, 2007, 02:10 AM Cook County Gun Owners, here's your representative contact information:
http://www.co.cook.il.us/secretary/HomePage_Links/district_information_.htm#District%20#14
Call your rep, the sponsor, and at least the suburban reps. Please call or write a letter, don't e-mail.
And, contact your buddies. The ones who own a gun but aren't politically active or that don't frequent these boards or that look down on certain classes of weapons. Let them know that THEY are in the cross hairs like never before. Even the hunters and sporting shooters. Hand hold them, walk them through it, send them the phone number they need to call, pressure, cajole do whatever, but make sure they call. Ride their asses. Make it personal--make them angry at the attack on their rights. And post on every possible board where you might find a cook county gun owner.
This needs to be a ****storm of epic proportions. It may only be a distraction, as noted earlier. It's too draconian to be wise politics. But there is no room for error here.
charon December 13, 2007, 02:14 AM The worst part is that I can throw a rock and hit Dupage County, but reside in Cook. Gerrymandering at its finest.
Yeah. I live 4 blocks from Lake County.
Spot77 December 13, 2007, 09:01 AM What's the purpose of the 2nd Amendment again??? :confused:
charon December 13, 2007, 12:11 PM I just sent Steve Chapman at the Trib an e-mail on this and the gun shop ordnances. We have briefly corresponded in the past and he is a supporter of the 2nd, by and large.
If we can get the word out, some of those County Board Democrats may find they have more gun owners in their suburban districts than they previously though. This is broad enough that it should hit a lot of people that might otherwise ignore an AWB, etc.
Noxx December 13, 2007, 12:22 PM Just read the text of that bill, un effin believable.
This was my favorite tidbit.
Any weapon that the President, the Board, or the Sheriff defines by regulation as an assault weapon because the design or operation of such weapon is inappropriate for lawful use.
Once again, the "we know better than you chattel" monster rears it's head. Who are these ignorant yahoos to determine what's "appropriate".
SWMAN December 13, 2007, 12:32 PM Why don't they just put out a sign along the interstate that says "Welcome to Crook County, IL Where Your Constitutional Rights Are Subject To Our Whim".
Anonymous Coward December 13, 2007, 06:16 PM What are they going to do next year when this measure doesn't work?
Oh, I know -- they're going to ask for something closer to a nationwide ban because these regional, halfway measures can't succeed.
Who was it that said advocates of gun control often conceal (badly) a deep contempt for their fellow man?
WildeKurt December 15, 2007, 08:02 PM I did a search in the Chicago Tribune and could find no mention of this. I find this very odd. You think something like this would get some press (good or bad).
Anotherguy December 16, 2007, 12:25 AM You couldn’t find any information on it because the Cook County board doesn’t want the public to know about it. From the registration proposal;
http://www.isra.org/cook_county/12042007-beavers-registration-290841.html
If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page you will see that they moved and unanimously voted to suspend the rules for giving public notice of the ordinance, among other things.
In accordance with Cook County Code Section 2-108(z)(1) Amendment or suspension of rules, Commissioner Suffredin, seconded by Commissioner Collins, moved to suspend Section 2-108(h)(1) Prior notice to public; agendas. The motion carried unanimously.
The same strategy they used in November '06 to pass the AWB.
Johnnybgood December 16, 2007, 12:57 AM I've heard that Crook County has been inundated with calls concerning this. Apparently the phones went dead for a while and are back on now. Cabelas was informed of what is going on and are investigating, and a local radio station (WLS) was contacted so hopefully the word is starting to get out.
Samuraigg December 16, 2007, 02:05 AM Yup, I do believe they wanted to keep this quiet and pass it without anyone really noticing. All the more important that we keep calling, writing, and spreading the word.
BigEric December 16, 2007, 11:59 PM A lady friend, who lives in Chicago and works for Crook County, had some home security issues with a neighbor. When she approached her co-workers they all said "get a gun."
Who were her co-workers? Sheriff deputies, public defenders, state prosecutors and county judges.
Urkel, like the rest of the cronies, have all done such a piss-poor job of running the city/county/state facilities that they have to hide behind big headlines.
This whole state sucks donkey balls and they won't give two ****s if the DC case does not go their way next summer. They will just "give 'em the finger" as a previous mayor used to scream and continue leech off the backs of hard working slugs which used to be a proud working American.
Eric
Ron Paul is not our savior...but what the hell, he could be one hell of a bee in their ****ing bonnet.
Anotherguy December 17, 2007, 12:51 PM Larry Suffredin has aspirations for the office of Cook County State's Attorney. When you call to voice your displeasure over these two draconian gun control proposals it may help to mention that Suffredin will not recieve your vote for such office given his love for trampling and just plain disregarding the Bill of Rights. He probably doesn't care how many calls he's recieving in opposition to this but I'll bet the threat of him not being elected to higher office might make him a little nervous, who knows. This is showboat politics for the eneducated masses who think this kind of restriction is helpful and reduces crime. Suffredin is already campaigning for SA office with this garbage. Yes, William Beavers is the board member that proposed the so called "Safe Streets/Weapons Registration Ordinance" and Suffredin is the one who proposed the gun shop rezoning ordinance that would make it virtually impossible for guns to be sold in any part of Cook County, specifically targeting Chuck's and Cabela's. We're not that stupid to think they're not working together. The board meets tomorrow, the 18th.
wrc December 19, 2007, 08:14 PM Does anyone know if it came up the 18th?
I'd love to know if the calls and letters did any good.
Crimp December 19, 2007, 09:59 PM I read the Illinois constitution concerning arms:
Subject only to the police power, the right of the
individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed.
Do I interpret that right?
Does that actually mean you may keep and bear arms unless "the police" say you can't? :eek:
Holy Crap! The police ace out an inalienable right? Does this set you up for another Katrina/New Orleans debacle? Why hasn't that been overturned in federal court?
I must be missing something...
Samuraigg December 19, 2007, 11:28 PM Nothing came up on the 18th. Apparently the ordinance is in a committee that can be called up "whenever". I bet they will wait for the talk to die down and try to pass it quietly.
AirForceShooter December 20, 2007, 09:23 AM This is the kind of stuff "Heller" addresses.
AFS
Autolycus December 21, 2007, 07:40 AM Hopefully Heller will end this crap.
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