[tinygnat219]

For VA, MD, and DC Residents of THR, DC is going to be holding a gun "buy-back" this weekend.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=596&sid=1308787

WASHINGTON (AP) - D.C. police will try to reduce violence in the city by buying guns off the street this weekend through an amnesty program.
Police Chief Cathy Lanier says arguments are too often resolved with guns and taking guns out of homes can help save lives.

The gun amnesty program will run from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturday. People who turn in weapons will be granted amnesty from any gun possession charges.

The program is open to residents from D.C. and nearby jurisdictions, including Arlington County and Alexandria in Virginia and Maryland's Prince George's and Montgomery counties.

Guns will be accepted at three locations: Shiloh Baptist Church in Northwest, Holy Christian House of Praise in Northeast and Union Temple Baptist Church in Southeast.

The pay scale for guns will range from $10 for a pellet gun to $100 for an assault rifle or semiautomatic pistol.

Sounds like those starter pistol junkers will do some good!

[jlday70]

Oh yeah those criminals are going to jump right up and turn thier guns in...Give me a break.

[Quoheleth]

As a Christian pastor, I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) and somewhat bothersome that they are using churches as gun collection centers.

Isn't this a case of "mixing of church & state"??? I'm serious...no joke!

Thanks,
Q

[Caimlas]

Quick! Get those illegal guns off the street before they're legal!

"Separation of church and state" - interesting, how they're violating the 1st Amendment to try and encroach upon the 2nd. Gee, I wonder why leftists don't care about the 1st when they can abuse it to their own ends... could it be that their first belief is "what's good for you isn't good enough for me"?


Isn't this a case of "mixing of church & state"??? I'm serious...no joke!


In my book? Damn straight! Might this be grounds for some sort of civil suit?


Sounds like those starter pistol junkers will do some good!

Na, they'll give you $10 for them. In all liklihood, they'll give people $10 for anything and everything, short of something really expensive (well, valued at $400+ on the "white market"). Double-barrel Damascus steel shotgun with intricate bronze plating? Ten dollars.

[Bubbles]

A question... if they're not checking ID's, how will they know that people turning in guns don't live in the affected areas, or that they're not FFL's?

DC Gun Buyback/Amnesty Info (http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=769EB9640F1954ADABC262D214F31EAC?contentId=5191471&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier announced today that a Gun Amnesty Program will be in affect from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturday, December 15, 2007.

The Gun Amnesty Program is part of the Metropolitan Police Department's commitment to reducing gun violence in the District, and is an opportunity for people to turn in their weapons to authorities without fear of prosecution.

"All too often arguments and disputes are resolved through the use of firearms," Chief Lanier said. "Taking guns out of homes and off the streets will help save lives."

The program is open only to residents of the District of Columbia or one of the following jurisdictions: Prince George's County, Md.; Montgomery County, Md.; Arlington County, Va.; or Alexandria, Va.

No payments will be made to gun dealers. If gun dealers bring in weapons, they will be taken, but no payments will be provided. Identification will not be required to participate. Only weapons in working order will receive payment.

People turning in weapons will be granted amnesty from any gun possession charges that might apply.

The following payment scale shall be followed:

Assault type rifle, automatic/semi-automatic pistol $100
Revolvers $50
Derringers $50
Shot guns $50
Rifles $50
Air/BB/pellet guns $10

Participating locations include:
Shiloh Baptist Church
1510 9th Street, NW

Holy Christian House of Praise
5110 Nannie Helen Burroughs Ave., NE

Union Temple Baptist Church
1225 W Street, SE.

[AZAndy]

If no identification is required to participate, then how the heck are they gonna know if you're a dealer or not?

[LeibstandarteAdH]

Hey now, some of my shooting buddies most prized and trusted backup pistols came from the evidence room, so i guess stuff like this isnt all bad for us all.

[Dope]

Sounds like a great opportunity to turn in your old/worthless/broken firearms and use the money to buy new ones. I love gun buyback programs.

Dope

[paintballdude902]

i want to go buy a few of those 10-20 dollar starter pistols and trade those in for 50 lol

[langenc]

How do I get them there without being "in violation" of possession??

[ZeSpectre]

Now how can DC have a "gun buy back"
DC is a "gun free" zone. Are they inviting guns in?
How is it a "buy back", did they sell the guns (in their gun free zone)?

I just can't make any sense out of this.

[cpaspr]

Beware the roadblocks checking for guns enroute to the buyback sites. It's only amnesty if it's at the buyback sites. If they catch you en route, all bets are off.

[dc2wheel]

No roadblocks - trust me - MPD is happy to take the guns no questions asked. There's been an armed robbery spree in my GF's DC neighborhood [emphasis on hood] & last night someone tried to pull one on an off duty officer. gun battle ensued.

Anyway, the Chief was in front of the City Council last week and without hesitation admitted these buybacks aren't very effective. Lots of old ladies turning in ancient, inoperable, rusty revolvers and such. Also plenty of non-functioning junk Raven/Jennings/Bryco/Lorcin/Davis .22's, .25's & .32's.

[FLA2760]

What guns? Isn't our enlightened Capital a gun free zone?

[Robert Hairless]

How much did they sell the guns for originally? And what brands of guns did they sell? I'd also be interested in knowing the address of the DC store where the District sells the guns it buys back. Or are there retail gun outlet stores in those churches?

I've never heard of churches that bought and sold guns before now. If this is a new kind of ministry it's one I really like. What better warranty could there be than on a gun from a church.

I guess that it's okay now to carry guns in those churches?

[Quoheleth]

Wonder if the minister will be dressed like Clint Eastwood, aka "Preacher," in Pale Rider?

[CE Wanna-be, in husky, breathy voice]
"All right, all you suns-of-biskits...Ahm gonna be readin' to you outta my Gun Book here."

[Liberal gun-hater]
"Uh, preacher...don't you mean, 'Good Book'?"

[CE Wanna-Be]
"No, I can't read out of the Good Book because that would violate these so-and-so's rights. But I can read them out of the Blue Book of Gun Values and tell them how much their grandpappy's old Colt was worth before they dropped it in my collection plate. If they would have gone to a legal gun shop, they could have made enough dough to buy a couple cases of beer. Instead, they'll get enough for bus fare home. Don't you feel safe now? Well, don't you? You've just made my day..."

Q

[Starter52]

$100 for a semi-auto pistol and only $50 for a revolver? That's DISCRIMINATION! Where's Jesse Jackson when we need him? :neener:

[Texas Moon]

Bet you a donut and a cup of coffee that Colt SAA or WW1 Luger that gets turned in never makes it to the smelter.

[tinygnat219]

I wonder how many people will actually be going to this? How ineffective is this one going to be?

[Quoheleth]

Bet you a donut and a cup of coffee that Colt SAA or WW1 Luger that gets turned in never makes it to the smelter.

No bet!

Q

[PPGMD]

Bet you a donut and a cup of coffee that Colt SAA or WW1 Luger that gets turned in never makes it to the smelter.

The officers that participate in these gun buy backs rarely care about historic firearms.

[ZeSpectre]

The officers that participate in these gun buy backs rarely care about historic firearms.

Some of 'em don't even care about their OWN firearms. You'd be astounded at how many DC cops answered the question of "so what are you guys issued these days?" with a reply of... Ummm, (look down), it's a, uh, (fill in the blank here).

[kjack]

My heavily customized Jennings J22 has been a wonderful companion on cold winter nights, but I could be tempted for $100. Custom features include stipling on the slide and frame (where it was dropped on the driveway) and specialized grips which have a just a hint of duct tape to hold them together (due to the same dropping incident).

(Unfortunately, my county seems to be excluded from the list.)

[Scratchy]

isn't this a gun show under the law? More than one person buying and or selling?

[Mr. James]

Bet you a donut and a cup of coffee that Colt SAA or WW1 Luger that gets turned in never makes it to the smelter.

I'll take that bet. The mouth-breathers running this program wouldn't know a collectible piece from a paper weight.

[Autolycus]

It is not seperation from church and state in that the church volunteers. However a Mosque or Synagog (spelling?) could volunteer to be a collection site. Not to mention the government is not making these churches or their religions into a state religion.

Caimlas: How do you know these people are leftists? What evidence do you have?

[Javelin]

Aside from the issue of gun free cities and how unconstitutional they are. I am not sure if these gun rallies are that bad. From a standpoint that yes you can ditch a bunch of your old firearms that dont work. As far as taking guns off the street, I guess maybe it will get a "few" but I am willing to bet that none will be from the criminals.

:)

[ExSoldier]

I'd like to see the violent crime stats for the 48 hour period preceding the event. Don't think the bad guys aren't smart enough to pull a hold up and then turn right around and dump the evidence off with the very police supposedly dedicated to hunting the offender down. Now the cops will take extra special care to destroy said evidence! That's JUSTICE!

[novaDAK]

Hey now, some of my shooting buddies most prized and trusted backup pistols came from the evidence room, so i guess stuff like this isnt all bad for us all.not when they're melted down.

[351 WINCHESTER]

I doubt if any good guns make it to the smelter. How about straight razors, knives, screwdrivers, ice picks, hammers, axes, etc?

[doc2rn]

Yet more tax dollars wasted to the tune of mere millions, just before they become legal again. How interesting is that? There ought to be a law against stupidity.

[AZ Husker]

For $100 per semi auto, I'm heading out with 1000 $60 Lorcins.

[omcjf]

I hate these feel-good programs. I'd love to see before and after crime statistics from the cities that hold these ridiculous events.

[novaDAK]

I doubt if any good guns make it to the smelter.
Don't kid yourself. The Gov't doesn't look at guns the same way we do.

[Prince Yamato]

I doubt if any good guns make it to the smelter.

They probably see a Broomstick Mauser and go, "eh, looks too old to work, may as well melt it."

I'd like to romanticize and think that there'd be a cop with a soft heart for old guns there, but more than likely, it's probably that all the cops are threatened with severe punishment for taking any of the turned in guns.

[Winchester 73]

This tactic is so ludicrous.
This an insane age we are living in.
If I could only go back with Ronnie Milsap and get ' Lost in the Fifties.'

[gunsmith]

"Separation of church and state" - interesting, how they're violating the 1st Amendment to try and encroach

The 1st Amendment (basically) says that we ought not have a "Church Of The USA" because of the control "The Church Of England" had.

The so called "Separation of church and state"
is a basturdization of part of a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote that the liberals seem to love and seem to believe is in the COTUS (hint, it aint!)

I wish we could have laws based on all of Jefferson's letters, why cant the liberals embrace all of Thomas Jefferson's letters?"As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives [only] moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks."
-- Thomas Jefferson, writing to his teenaged nephew.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[cobrian45]

Hey, gunsmith, that's part of my sig.

Ok, same question posed another way. Are they going to run serial numbers before destroying these guns? I had the same thought about the spike in burglary preceding the ban and then selling them straight for cash. Then again, the "guns off the street and out of homes" comment leads me to believe they don't really care how they get "out of the home".

So, if they have a legally possessed item stolen from a home and they buy it back, that's commerce in stolen property right? Then, if they destroy said stolen property after they are in possession of it, that's destruction of evidence and possibly obstruction of justice. Just how I see it.

[bl4ckd0g]

Sounds like a great way to rid the world of a few more Ravens, Lorcins and other Saturday Night Specials. The world needs more paper clips and beer bottle openers, not unreliable cheap pistols.

[tallpaul]

As a Christian pastor, I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) and somewhat bothersome that they are using churches as gun collection centers.

Isn't this a case of "mixing of church & state"??? I'm serious...no joke!

Thanks,
Q

As a lay minister I find it funny you would have a problem with using the church for a public relations function that is neither illegal or against the bible... I am not a fan of the buy back programs and feel they are a waste and only a feel good event for those in fear for the most part but they do in reality give a way for guns to be safely removed from people who don't want them in their homes.

I did make out at the one I went to a week or so back ;) mine did not even function...

As far as guns in church my assault rifles and registered subgun have been used in sermans- in the youth program several different times as props with the leaderships permission... then again I did provide a live goat and several guns one service with a 5 hour notice... they had told my pastor it could not likely be done. I did not own the goat BTW- I just made a cold call at a house where I knew one was available. Neither the guns nor the live goat seemed to bother God much :D

[dc2wheel]

A goat & subguns? Was your church performing it's own Strasbourg Tests? (http://http://www.thegunzone.com/strasbourg.html)

[scout26]

A goat & subguns? Was your church performing it's own Strasbourg Tests?

Nah, I bet he was trying to rid the Chicago Cubs of (one of) their (many) curse(s)....

http://www.reversethecurse.com/curse_history.htm

[ServiceSoon]

isn't this a gun show under the law? More than one person buying and or selling?These laws are written for the people, not the government.