10mm For Concealed Carry??


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Fake Name
December 12, 2007, 06:28 PM
I have been a .40 S&W fan for some time now but I have always been intigued by the 10mm round for its sheer power.

Is the 10mm too powerful for concealed carry?

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BlindJustice
December 12, 2007, 06:41 PM
Kind of a funny way to ask - too powerful ?

Depends on who is doing the shooting and if you
care about over penetration eh?

1 FWIW - the FBI, after adopting the 10MM
they found it was too large and too much recoil
for some of their agents and the .40 S&W was
born.

2 FWIW - a .400 CorBon Drop In barrel in a 1911
is not the size of the Colt Delta for CCW

joffe
December 12, 2007, 06:46 PM
You should look up the case about Mr. Fisk (I think that was the name, can't remember the full names of those involved) and the use of a 10mm in a self-defense situation - the prosecution made a point of the 10mm being an 'unusual and overly powerful cartridge' for a self-defense weapon. The guy got convicted, manslaughter or murder, I don't remember which.

Fake Name
December 12, 2007, 06:47 PM
Yeah, by "too powerful" I was referring to overpenetration. As I understand it, I would want the round to stop inside the BG for maximum energy transfer.

Soybomb
December 12, 2007, 07:09 PM
You should look up the case about Mr. Fisk (I think that was the name, can't remember the full names of those involved) and the use of a 10mm in a self-defense situation - the prosecution made a point of the 10mm being an 'unusual and overly powerful cartridge' for a self-defense weapon. The guy got convicted, manslaughter or murder, I don't remember which.
I would recommend reading more about the case, the man wasn't convicted because of what he used, the shooting itself, the story he told, and the evidence at the scene is what landed him in jail. His name is Harold Fish.

As long as you can shoot 10mm fine I don't see any reason not to carry it. Its expensive if you don't reload.

EBRDude
December 12, 2007, 07:14 PM
I carry a G20 everyday. I am 5'6 and 170lbs. No issues at all.

CPLofMARINES
December 12, 2007, 07:39 PM
Why not? Win. 175 grn. Silver Tips equals that of .41 mag. There are
loads out there that can surpass that or you can tone it down. I would like
to get a Glock 20 or 29 but I would be adding a new calibre to my collection
and I can not justify the cost. I think the G20 is an excellent choice for a
trail/"bear country" situation. 16 rds. of .41mag power, not bad!



Semper Fi!!

98C5
December 12, 2007, 07:51 PM
You should look up the case about Mr. Fisk (I think that was the name, can't remember the full names of those involved) and the use of a 10mm in a self-defense situation - the prosecution made a point of the 10mm being an 'unusual and overly powerful cartridge' for a self-defense weapon. The guy got convicted, manslaughter or murder, I don't remember which.


Was that the guy with the Colt Delta 10mm? I remeber that story. Didn't he fire 4 or 5 rounds into the guy?

R&J
December 12, 2007, 08:00 PM
Liberal activist prosecutors look for every angle to nail the victim who had the audacity to take a proactive approach to his/her own protection. That's why states without a Castle Doctrine are not looking out for the tax payer citizen.

A call to the cops puts it all in the past tense. You've been robbed, been raped, been beaten. They like that. They file reports and offer counseling. It supports that big ole infrastructure, with all those offices, jobs, and sweetheart pensions. Settling matters yourself, with appropriate lethal counter-force, circumvents all that.

Don't tell me differently, as I live in Wiskonsin, where we wring our hands over the perp, and his tragic childhood, and intimidate the working home owner. What's more, I live in Milwaukee--about as crooked a county as you could muster!

We had one case, of an elderly woman holding a perp at gunpoint, while she dialed 911. There were kids in the house... The evening news made a big deal over cops scolding her for pointing a loaded gun at the perp (a felony), as they contemplated charging her (she was near penniless). They went on to show a bunch of grannies taking karate lessons (no, I'm not kidding!) as an alternative to an armed response! They ultimately did not charge her, but confiscated her gun; the very flower of Liberalism... What the hell gives them the right to confiscate her gun?! They virtually always confiscate the homeowner's gun here.

Wiskonsin is one of two states left with no CCW permits available to its citizens, even though popular vote calls for it. When asked, the last time he shot it down, Governor Diamond Jim Doyle responded, "How does this help our children?"

Doyle was the state's Attorney General when then Mayor Paul Soglin tried to invoke a DC-style Handgun Ban on the state's capital (Madison) in 1994. Then Governor Tommy Thompson blew that out of the water, and Doyle was furious!

Latest Doyle proposals include, Single-Shot Only, pistols and rifles, and the right for any Wiskonsin Municipality to Invoke Whatever Gun Laws or Bans it feels Fit to Create!

:cuss: :banghead: Thanks for your indulgence. Probably saved me a stroke. :)

10 mm is an awfully potent SD round. But there are semi-frangible JHP ammos, such as Double Tap's 135 Gr Nosler. At 1600 FPS, and 767 Ft. Lbs., its bullet would not likely exit a center-mass hit on a perp, or an exterior wall. But the wound inflicted is downright awful. The performance is in the ballpark with top .357 magnum SD rounds, which many State Patrols carried for years.

--Ray

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