Ruger 10/22 picture request


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yongxingfreesty
December 16, 2007, 01:52 PM
im looking at getting a ruger 10/22 again. it will look something like this.
http://i3.tinypic.com/712h6xx.jpg

on a .920 target barrel and a fajen adjustable stock. is it possible to get 2" groups at 200yds?

What is a good scope to get? I was looking at the super sniper scopes and they come in 10x, 16x and 20x. Are these fixed power? Thanks

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cslinger
December 16, 2007, 01:59 PM
2 inches at 200 yards with a .22 seems pretty darn optimistic to me. I think you will be limited by the ammo/caliber more then the platform.

Chris

yongxingfreesty
December 16, 2007, 02:15 PM
what kind of groups should I expect at 200yds with CCI Green Tag ammunition with a .920 target bull barrel?

what power scope (10x, 16x, 20x) should I get to see clearly at 200yds.

Gator
December 16, 2007, 02:53 PM
The wind has a tremendous affect on .22 LR bullets, the slightest breeze can push them inches off target at longer ranges. The .17 HMR would be a better choice for 200 yard rimfire shooting.

bamabluesman
December 16, 2007, 08:24 PM
I have a Mueller APV 4.5-14 AO scope which is about the best rimfire scope you can get for the money and it doesn't have enough height adjustment to shoot 200 yards with .22LR. Even if you could shoot indoors at 200 you're not gonna group 2 inches. You may consider converting the 10/22 to 17HM2. It shoots very flat and can do 200 but the wind is still gonna be a huge factor.

tnieto2004
December 16, 2007, 08:25 PM
Maybe indoors!

Pigspitter
December 16, 2007, 09:36 PM
I have a BSA that will get me out to 200 yards but precision doesn't exist at those ranges with a .22lr

rangerruck
December 16, 2007, 11:39 PM
the super snipers are fixed, but they do have one that is a variable. the cci green tags, and anything subsonic, actually moves less in the wind, than one that drops out of supersonic, i would just be surprised, if greentag even makes it the 200 yds!!!! Also , if you want precision shooting out to 200 yds, you will def have to replace that bbl.

W.E.G.
December 17, 2007, 01:05 AM
rimfire at 200 yards?

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/humor/mortarman.jpg

TimboKhan
December 17, 2007, 01:10 AM
I have pretty much the exact set-up you describe, and I don't want to sound harsh or mean, but your dreaming if you think your going to shoot inside of two inches with a .22lr with any set-up. I would be impressed if you could shoot inside of two feet at that distance, and I am not joking when I say that.

Sgt.Dusk
December 17, 2007, 01:33 AM
I tried some quite long shots with 10/22 last summer.
Not sure about the exact range but it was somewhere near 300meters.
Wasnt too easy even with the 20x scope, since you cant adjust it that far with 22LR. I was shooting much higher than the actual target and the best I could do was to hit a beer can. I guess something like 5"-8" could be a realistic group from that far.

tnieto2004
December 17, 2007, 01:42 AM
300 meters hitting a beer can is WAY better than I could do with a .22lr .. Wind would be my biggest issue I am sure

yongxingfreesty
December 17, 2007, 05:33 AM
a bear can is close a human sized head. I am happy with that. =)

SilentArmy
December 17, 2007, 06:05 AM
I have 10-22 customs with over $1600 poured into them and I would not even attempt 200 yd shots with either one! My .17 Mach2 will not shoot consistant 2" groups at 100 yds with no wind. Simply stated, the .22 LR cartridge is not a 200 yd weapon system regardless of your hardware. Maybe I will take some Ballons to the range with me next trip and see how much holdover is necessary for a shot like that. I would expect something like 6'
+1 on the Mortar man!
Ballistics software is showing me a drop on a subsonic 40 gr at around 75"! In my research I have read of 1" groups at 200 yds using the best available ammo and rifle. 10-22 is not that rifle!
If you figure MOA, you would have to be shooting 1/4" groups at 100 yds to stay around 2" at 200.
I would like to see a 300 yd shot! holdover would be in the 12 foot area and an insect exhaling would give you windage issues.

Sgt.Dusk
December 17, 2007, 06:37 AM
About that beer can shot :
Wasnt the first, wasnt even the second or the third shot that hit it.
The can was standing in front of a tree where I had painted dots going up the tree. Finally I aimed the dot that was about 2meters high. that was the can hitting shot. Cant talk of any kind of accuracy.
But anyway....as an experiment it was fun. Next summer I gotta try 500meters.( LOL I gotta aim 10 meters higher.)

Geno
December 17, 2007, 07:12 AM
.22LR at 200 yards?

Yes, and beyond! Shepherd manufactures a calibrated scope for .22LR with 50 yards increments out to 500 yards.

The most accurate .22LR I have owned was a Ruger 10/22 HB. At 225 yards, using a bi-pod and sandbag on the bench, I maintained MOA groups all day long, using Remington Thunderbolts. I dropped several woodchucks with neck/head-shots. I have this posted several times around THR.

Doc2005

yongxingfreesty
December 18, 2007, 04:56 AM
ok, i changed my mind on that setup and decided to go with a stock 10/22 with this stock/barrel combo from butler creek.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=87457990

what kind of groups would i expect at 100yds benched (5 shots)

hoping to stay around 300 for the setup without a scope.
new 10/22 $200 --> 160 after discount
stock/barrel ------> $140 shipped

brentn
December 18, 2007, 05:52 AM
Here's mine, I just love this thing.
About 5000 rounds through it so far, very few hitches. The odd stopage or stovepipe but usually with ****ty banana mags.
Decently accurate on a nice rest setup
http://members.shaw.ca/brent_nowell/main/Images/Collection/Ruger%2010-22%20Target.jpg

Sgt.Dusk
December 18, 2007, 08:39 AM
what kind of groups would i expect at 100yds benched (5 shots)
1" or smaller. Ammo is a factor too.
Use Lapua speed aces and you wont be disappointed.

General Geoff
December 18, 2007, 08:53 AM
200 yard shot with a .22? Someone's been watching Shooter too much lately. :p

That notwithstanding, sounds like an interesting question. I'll see what I can pull off at that range with a .22 bolt gun, though I don't expect to get anything better than a 12" group or so.

Hiaboo
December 19, 2007, 11:58 AM
100 yard shots with groups with a .22 is incredibly tough. I'll applaud you if you do 1" groups at that distance.. 200 yards? pssh, you wont even know if you're hitting in the zone or not, until you get dialed in that is. You'll probably need a runner up there to look-see for you..

I gotta tell you, it's the ammo and barrel/trigger than anything else in the rimfire game. More so on the ammo and barrel. Good luck.

Check out rimfirecentral.com

pgeleven
December 19, 2007, 12:34 PM
im personally a big fan of the hogue rubber stock. it just looks and feels too cool

pgeleven
December 19, 2007, 12:58 PM
hogue stock with leupold VX-I scope
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/pgeleven/101_1473a.jpg

atblis
December 19, 2007, 02:38 PM
+- 50 fps is pretty good for 22lr ammo.

Figure in that it is traveling ~1000 fps

Vertical dispersion becomes a problem.

ArmedBear
December 19, 2007, 02:53 PM
+- 50 fps is pretty good for 22lr ammo.

Depends what ammo. And what gun.

A Shepherd scope on a 10/22? ROTFLMAO

yongxingfreesty
December 19, 2007, 06:30 PM
does anyone know if that bull barrel is any good?

Storz
December 19, 2007, 08:09 PM
I had a 10/22 set up with that stock, its made by Fajen, called the Legacy II I believe. I really like it, being able to customize it made it very comfortable for offhand shooting. Wish I hadn't sold the rig actually...

brentn
December 20, 2007, 02:17 AM
does anyone know if that bull barrel is any good?

Not with stingers. The chamber dimensions do not like the stinger case dimensions and the manual mentions that it will result in inproper chambering/extraction.
Basically blown cases before they are fully chambered.

I have not ever tried stingers with my barrel..

madcratebuilder
December 20, 2007, 09:25 AM
This is a Fajen stock, GM .920 barrel, all the normal internal mods, 1lb 12oz trigger pull, Mueller AVP. From the bench it shoots 1/4 moa at 25 and 50 yds.
I have shot 100 yds, but that is not the strong point of the .22lr. I have 5.56 and 7.62 for longer range shooting.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/102201.jpg

joebogey
December 20, 2007, 09:51 AM
Here's mine:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/joebogey/Ruger1022-248-53654.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/joebogey/Ruger1022-251-81000.jpg

mustachio
December 20, 2007, 10:42 AM
Here's mine with a Tapco stock.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg79/mustachio/IMG_1975.jpg

Eyesac
December 20, 2007, 02:14 PM
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u54/eyesacr/1022_4_1.jpg

Haven't tried 200 yet. Don't listen to the nay-sayers, get all set up and try it, maybe you can, maybe you can't...

DoubleTapDrew
December 20, 2007, 02:24 PM
does anyone know if that bull barrel is any good?
I've heard Butler Creek barrels are hit or miss but it seems most are just as good as other brands. Most barrels have match chambers so don't shoot stingers. You can pick up a green mountain barrel for about $100 also. I put one on mine (16"), with a Hogue overmold stock.
Here's a (bad) pic of mine. I'll have to take some decent pictures soon.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=61318&d=1185340130

rnr4me
December 20, 2007, 02:37 PM
Here's mine. GM fluted bull barrel, w/ VQ hammer, trigger, sear.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/rnr1022/22bullR.jpg

and this is a 50 yd bench group.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/rnr1022/50ydclose2.jpg

yongxingfreesty
December 20, 2007, 06:49 PM
those are good looking 10/22s. never thought they could get up to the $1000 and up price range. WOW!!!

ruger66
December 20, 2007, 08:43 PM
This one is close to the beginning. Serial number 4 the lowest serial number 10/22 outside the factory. The factory retains numbers 1,2,and 3.
http://www.northern-pine.com/ruger66/4d.jpg
http://www.northern-pine.com/ruger66/4e.jpg

ar154life
December 21, 2007, 01:02 AM
WOW! How did you get a hold of that?

brentn
December 22, 2007, 09:45 PM
thats insane! probably the first one left in existance!

What a collectors piece, never ever sell that :D

Whats the story behind it?

Markbo
December 22, 2007, 10:48 PM
My .17 Mach2 will not shoot consistant 2" groups at 100 yds with no wind.

If that is true, you have built one stupendously poor HM2! Here is what mine does at 50:
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/17HM2/17M2target1.sized.jpg
Here is the carbine that shot it:
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/17HM2/17M2_5.jpg

And you darned right you can shoot and shoot well at 200 yards! You are never going to do it with a plastic stock, period. "Is that bull barrel any good" shows that you need a HUGE amount of information to even be able to know what questions to ask.

Go to Rimfirecentral.com, get registered and start reading. Don't buy any plastic stocks, don't buy any barrels that you don't know in advance are worth the money and don't shoot Stingers in anything with a Bentz chamber. If you don't know what a bentz chamber is, you just confirmed the last statement of the previous paragraph.

But what do I know? I've only built 8 or 9 of them and the WORST one shoots sub 1/2" groups at 50 yards. Here are just a few:
Apache:
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/Marks-22s/Apache_22_008.sized.jpg

Barracuda:
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/Marks-22s/Barracuda_01.sized.jpg

How about a Model 96 in 17HMR?
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/17-HMR/96_17HMR3.sized.jpg
Tucks Tundra (note the ghost flames)
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/Marks-Guns/Tuck_Tundra1.sized.jpg

And finally... my Safari Grade:
http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/Marks-22s/Safari_Special_4.sized.jpg

birdbustr
December 22, 2007, 10:58 PM
I get about 1" at 100 yards. I have a Sightron S1 3-9X40mm scope on a Heavy Barrel 10/22. Rifle is dead on at 40 yards and the 1st notch below of the mil-dot reticle is dead on at 100 yards with Federal America Eagle 38gr Hollow Points @1250fps.

Anything further than 100 yards the 22lr is dropping like a stone and super hard to compensate for. Besides, the energy is so low past 100 yards it wouldn't be good for hunting if not a perfect hit. Maybe you should think of one of the .17 cal rifles.

yongxingfreesty
December 23, 2007, 02:43 AM
the 10/22 can shoot .17 mach2 with just a barrel conversion? is it that EASY????

i will read more on rimfirecentral.com thanks

birdbustr
December 24, 2007, 12:32 AM
There is a conversion kit that has a different (stiffer) spring and guide rod. Also needs different barrel. I thought about it, but decided not to do it. I don't want to be without my 22lr or have to switch everything back over just to shoot some cheap 22lr rounds.

I am considering a 17 HMR, but I'll be heading back east soon. All I ever hunt in tht 22 or .17 range is squirrels. I've got 100 yards with my 22lr and the factory stainless hammered steel bull barrel. I've never and probably will never even see a shot on a squirrel that far. If you want 200yards I would just do the Mach2 or 17HMR from the go.

yongxingfreesty
December 24, 2007, 12:37 AM
yeah, read up a lot on rimfirecentral.
nice forum btw


this is really what im looking to build. with a 10x42mm super sniper scope....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/yongxingliang/ruger1022s/Tri-colored-stock500.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/yongxingliang/ruger1022s/P1010157.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/yongxingliang/ruger1022s/newstock.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/yongxingliang/ruger1022s/1mvbxg2e81.jpg



not this, but thought it looked cool
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/yongxingliang/ruger1022s/2whqomf.jpg

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