Idiot spouts off


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madmike
December 18, 2007, 03:33 PM
Anyone want to call this clown and find out if he'd defend someone on firearm charges?

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION01

My reply:

It's not surprising to read an editorial comment that decries criminal use of "automatic weapons," which have been strictly federally controlled, effectively banned, since 1934. It's not surprising to see them conflated with tragedies like VA Tech, which involved common pistols (and a ball bat would have served as well, with our cultural victim mentality). It's not surprising to see the tired old idiocy that our Founders never foresaw "automatic weapons" when they wrote the Second Amendment, even though rapid firing and automatic guns did exist in the era of flintlocks.

What is surprising is to see such blatant misunderstanding from Robert Hammerle, an alleged attorney. I've always understood that attorneys follow a code of ethics and professionalism and research the subject before making statements, so as not to make errors that would lose them a case in seconds once rebutted.

In counter, I'd like to suggest a five day waiting period on publication, while the government background checks facts for accuracy, after which time Mr Hammerle can spout off in a paper he prints with lead type and distributed on horseback, just as our Founders intended.

Michael Z. Williamson


Michael Z. Williamson is an immigrant, a 23 year veteran of the US Army and US Air Force, and an internationally published author of technical articles on firearms and military fiction. His newest novel, "Better to Beg Forgiveness..." (Baen Books, 2007) is now in bookstores worldwide.

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Deanimator
December 19, 2007, 04:38 PM
What is surprising is to see such blatant misunderstanding from Robert Hammerle, an alleged attorney.
An attorney only has to understand the law and he only has to tell the truth in his capacity as an officer of the court. Beyond those boundaries, he can be as ignorant and dishonest as he wants.

Standing Wolf
December 19, 2007, 08:19 PM
I've always understood that attorneys follow a code of ethics and professionalism and research the subject before making statements, so as not to make errors that would lose them a case in seconds once rebutted.

Unless, of course, the "opinion" was a satire.

Maybe not.

In counter, I'd like to suggest a five day waiting period on publication, while the government background checks facts for accuracy, after which time Mr Hammerle can spout off in a paper he prints with lead type and distributed on horseback, just as our Founders intended.

Well, yeah, sure, but that's different!

Curiously, I've never met a leftist who didn't think he or she was moer intelligent, wiser, smarter, shrewder, more enlightened, et cetera than ordinary people. Still more curiously, I've never met a leftist who wasn't uncommonly fearful.

jad0110
December 19, 2007, 08:23 PM
I read all of the comments posted about the article. I must say that the vast majority of the posters "get it" ... very uplifting. It made my day; do read them if you have time.

Double Naught Spy
December 20, 2007, 08:52 AM
What is surprising is to see such blatant misunderstanding from Robert Hammerle, an alleged attorney.

So I guess that if Michael is going to call Hammerle and "alleged attorney" for information in the article stating Hammerle's position then we need to consider Michael as an alleged immigrant, alleged 23 year veteran of the US Army and US Air Force, and an alleged internationally published author of technical articles on firearms and military fiction since his information is included with his statement.

Sorry, but I don't get the point of questioning Hammerle's professional qualifications as part of the critique of his statements. What is surprising is to see such a blatant misunderstanding of logic by using an ad hominem attack on the speaker instead of just attacking the statements by an international author. So if we apply it equally, then your credentials must be considered as alleged too.

You didn't think we would notice?

hoppinglark
December 24, 2007, 10:03 AM
Well, I have a copy of "Freehold" so his status as an author is not alleged!

Where is the original statement that got him so fired up?

Noxx
December 24, 2007, 11:21 AM
Curiously, I've never met a leftist who didn't think he or she was more intelligent, wiser, smarter, shrewder, more enlightened, et cetera than ordinary people

Bingo to that. One of the few reasons I bother to keep my Mensa card in my wallet is in order to thumb my nose at the above mentioned folks when they are finished talking down to me. Not the most mature response ever, but I must admit it comes with a certain satisfaction.

DDude
December 25, 2007, 12:28 AM
I liked the statement by Shorebreak..."As long as the government has guns, I want a better one". :D

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