Anyone else suffer from extreme buyers remorse?


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Lucky Strike
December 19, 2007, 01:21 PM
I know I do...in pretty much anything I buy, and sadly it has extended into my newfound hobby of shooting handguns. Doesn't matter how much I research (and i often research a ton when i'm spending good money) as soon as I'm driving home with my new toy in my mind i'm like :banghead:

As soon I bought home my XD, i was wishing I chose an M&P.

As soon as I go pick up my new Tracker .22 tonight i'll likely be wishing I got a Single Six

I've settled on a GP100 for a future purchase but can't decide on barrel/finish.....I know if I go home with a SS 4" i'll wish i got a blued 6".

And If i I bought the M&P and Single Six i'd just be wishing I got the XD and Tracker.

I can't win. :barf:

Anyone else suffer from this horrible affliction?

Only solution i can see is to win the lottery and get one of everything. :o

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Black Majik
December 19, 2007, 01:29 PM
Not really, I shoot the guns I'm interested before I buy. There may be other guns I want, but those will be bought later. For me, it isn't either/or. It's BOTH. :D

speedydave
December 19, 2007, 01:30 PM
I don't always have remorse, I have remorse from selling most of the guns I have sold though.

For me, a lot of the excitement is is the hunt and bargaining, it's almost a let down when you finally have it in your possession. Until I go to the range that is.

SuperNaut
December 19, 2007, 02:59 PM
Sellers remorse here too.

igpoobah
December 19, 2007, 03:07 PM
Buy one of everything...!

mejeepnut
December 19, 2007, 03:31 PM
Oh Ya!I will wait to find something I want at a good price on on-line auctions and checking pawn shops and finaly just say screw it and buy something that catches my eye and the next day what I really wanted pops up!I can wait a year and what I want will not show up untill I am broke!I can honestly say I have enjoyed every gun I have bought eccept for one,That would be a mini-14 I bought new.But thinking about the p22 and savage 110 in 30-06 I bought one week(I already had a 111 in 30-06) and then the ruger #1 in 25-06 poped up and nobody bid on it but I was out of gun money!Ya,theres a little remorse here and there.

Walkalong
December 19, 2007, 03:46 PM
I have fallen in love with something and spent too much money on it. Then regretted the money side, but I still had something I liked.

Josh Aston
December 19, 2007, 04:05 PM
Yep, got an XD45 when they first came out. Not a bad gun per se. I just couldn't warm up to it. In my opinion it was about like an HK, just completely mediocre. So I traded it for a Kimber Series I Pro Carry. Couldn't be happier now.

esq_stu
December 19, 2007, 04:09 PM
Seller's remorse a few times; buyer's remorse with respect to a few lemons I've bought, but not until the problems cropped up.

skud_dusty
December 19, 2007, 05:40 PM
I've had sellers remorse over a few items. I've had buyers remorse once or twice. Not because I wanted something more, but more like I made an impulse buy without thinking. I actually had a bit of buyers remorse over a .45 USP.

btg3
December 19, 2007, 06:27 PM
Generally expenditures can be categorized as needs/wants/desire.
Example: You may NEED a car and a used Corolla will suffice, whereas you may WANT a Camry, and may even DESIRE an Avalon or Lexus.

You have guns, so more guns is not in the NEEDS category. The research you do is well and good, but once you make a decision to buy, I suspect you that you do so immediately rather than waiting. So, consider challenging yourself as follows: When you are ready to purchase, write down the details...
the gun, the model, the accessories
the price
where you'll buy it

Then date it, put it in a safe place, and wait 30 days. If nothing has changed and you feel it is still a good decision, then buy it. Otherwise, revise as needed and wait 30 more days from any revision -- or decide not to purchase at all.

The above can help whether you are dealing with self-discipline, delayed gratification, poor judgement, personal finances, etc. If you struggle, then ask a spouse or friend to hold you accountable for the 30 days on each significant purchase you are considering that is not a NEED.

Good luck !!!

Dienekes
December 19, 2007, 06:47 PM
The above is good advice. Years ago my wife and I used to think we wanted something, but the more time went by the less we found we needed it. Often by the time we had the money available (forget charging it) we really didn't care anymore. After a while it became something of a family joke.

Somewhat coincidentally a book titled "Less Is More" came out around the same time. We were already operating somewhat frugally and that became sort of our operating manual. What with one thing and another it probably saved us untold amounts of money that would have gone done the rathole.

Someone finally made that phrase into a bumper sticker, and I put one on the back of the Corolla. It gets a lot of glances at the gas station...

tubeshooter
December 19, 2007, 08:42 PM
btg3's idea sounds like a good one.


I researched my first few purchases very carefully, and continue to put a lot of thought into whatever I get. There have been only two times I wasn't pleased. One was just a bad impulse buy - kind of a gamble on something used that didn't work out. The other time wasn't really the gun's fault so I don't hold that against it. I just had the wrong set of expectations.

Ed Ames
December 19, 2007, 10:09 PM
btg3's idea, if you really follow through and apply it to everything, will immensely improve your personal finances in general. I know people who do that.... not literally but they wait months before buying anything.

Just be aware that it won't necessarily make you happier in the long run. One of my most miserable friends does exactly that and it's a big part of why he's unhappy with his life.

You spend your money you take your chances. Enjoy the variety or control your desires. Just remember you only live once.

Snagglepuss
December 19, 2007, 10:14 PM
[QUOTE]For me, a lot of the excitement is is the hunt and bargaining, it's almost a let down when you finally have it in your possession. Until I go to the range that is.[QUOTE]

Me too.

Try buying a Dan Wesson or Fusion and you will not have this problem

Johnny B
December 20, 2007, 12:33 AM
I have pangs of buyer's remorse when I shell out several hundred dollars on something new, but they are quickly forced out of my head by thoughts of whatever new thing I am planning on acquiring next. I just bought an XD-45 (love it!), but I am already planning on buying another 1911 of some kind (probably a Springfield Loaded). I don't regret my purchase; I did want the thing enough to spend $500 on it for crying out loud. More than anything, I'm looking forward to the next thing I buy. Every gun is different, and if it's worth buying to me, I'll buy it, no matter if I have a gun that might do the same thing. If it serves the same purpose in a different way, I say great, pick one up.

But that's just me. I'm a shallow materialist, after all.

nwilliams
December 20, 2007, 12:36 AM
I've had buyers remorse more than a few times and sellers remorse many times more.

Wish I could shoot everything I buy first but that really isn't possible, I've never bought a gun from a shop that allowed me to shoot the gun first. If I'm unsure whether a gun I might buy is a good buy or not I usually ask here on THR or try to find reviews of the gun in question on the internet and magazines. However I'm a terrible impulse buyer when it comes to guns and that has often come back to bite me over the years, I'm really trying hard to kick that habit.

collateral
December 20, 2007, 01:10 AM
honestly I usually get buyers remorse for most big purchases I make, but I have never had it from buying a firearm. Ever.

ojibweindian
December 20, 2007, 09:06 AM
The way I avoid any remorse is to analyze any task, or situation, I would reasonably undertake, or be exposed to, against what I have currently. If my stuff fails to satisfy the requirements to sucessfully handle the task or situation, then I research and buy the equipment necessary.

To be honest, following that process usually means I don't often buy stuff. :D

madcratebuilder
December 20, 2007, 09:34 AM
Some times I feel guilty about the amount of money I spend on firearms, but I get over it. Then go buy another! In fact I'm starting to apply the 'rule of two'.

weisse52
December 20, 2007, 10:05 AM
Not sure that I would call it buyers remorse. I sometimes second guess myself, but it is usually around which one I should buy in what order.
I already know what my next one will be (S&W 41) and I just got my last one a week ago.
I am very happy with that one, do not regret it. I just like to have an orderly list of what is next.

NOW I suffer from extreme sellers remorse. The more I read some of these posts the worse it is becoming.

The Smith 41 will be to correct a mistake I made 20+ years ago.

Black Adder LXX
December 20, 2007, 09:08 PM
Get the 4" stainless and ignore the voices :)

lee n. field
December 20, 2007, 09:21 PM
Anyone else suffer from this horrible affliction?



It usually takes me longer than that to decide if a particular purchase sucks or not.

Katana8869
December 20, 2007, 10:36 PM
I'm going through that right now a little bit with my S&W 640. It's a good little revolver, but I kinda wish I had bought a Ruger SP-101 in 3" instead.

DENALI
December 20, 2007, 10:38 PM
I bought a $770.00 S&W 360 PD you know the space age J-frame .357! I was at bill's gun range in Blaine MN and I put 5-rounds of federal 125gr magnum ammo through the little revolver. These were the first ever rounds through the brand new J-frame, I mean out of the box new. In front of at least 40 guy's and gal's, when I ejected those first five rounds,my titanium cylinder slid almost completely off the crane and bound up on the scandium frame. I don't know if it really qualify's as buy'ers remorse, but I can still hear everyone laughing there asses off two years later...........:what:

hemiram
December 21, 2007, 12:26 AM
I have way more seller's remorse than buyer's. Of course. that doesn't apply to defective items, where they are problem plauged from day one, and spend either a lot of time being worked on, or they die soon after the warranty expires. I seem to have either great luck with stuff of all kinds, or it's really really bad.

10-Ring
December 21, 2007, 01:49 AM
The only remorse I feel is from not having enough $$ to buy more! :D

Vanzpp
December 21, 2007, 09:59 AM
Not buyer's, but seller's remorse in my case.

My first gun was a Glock 19. I sold it to a friend of mine because I decided I wanted a P220. I love the P220, but had I known ammo prices would go through the roof like they have, I would have kept the Glock. It was a great gun...but I was new to handgunning at the time and I didn't know how great it actually was until I got rid of it.

I'd like to buy another one, but the wife has put the kibosh on any new gun purchases for the forseeable future 'cause we have a 9 month old who is now taking "financial priority" over anything else.

Lousy "priorities".....:banghead:

Super Trucker
December 21, 2007, 10:29 PM
They have pills for this problem. Enjoy your new XD.

ironvic
December 22, 2007, 08:02 PM
Naw, plenty of sellers remorse, though: S&W Models 52, 18, 640-1, 640 PC, 28, 4516, 15, 17 (twice), 66 2.5", Colt enhanced .45 ACP, TC Contender, Bernadelli Model 80 and an accurate reliable Ruger Mini 14. Awww, I could go on, but it's almost Christmas. I know I'm not getting any guns this year and I sure miss those old buddies. Always traded for something 'better' (at the time) and never regretted a purchase.

ironvic

arflattop
December 22, 2007, 11:45 PM
No buyers remorse -- if a firearm doesn't shoot well, it looks great as a "safe queen". Once acquired, they're never sold or traded -- sellers remorse is nonexistant....

grimmysnr
December 23, 2007, 03:31 PM
I have had buyers remorse from a couple guns i have purchased. One of which is my 1927A1 Tommy Gun from Kahr Arms. My experience with this gun has been one disappointment after another. First my rear sights are barely riveted in there and has fallen off even after sending it to Kahr for warranty repair.

After only putting a few hundred rounds through it, the extractor breaks and seizes the bolt. The wood finish is constantly coming loose even though iv tightened the bolts more times than i can count. When i sent the gun away for the extractor and rear sight repair, the customer service from Kahr is absolutely horendous. Impossible to contact anybody at that company for a repair status after they have had the gun for more than 6 weeks. Nobody answered the phone or returned my calls.

Then when i finally get someone they say "Your who? You sent us a gun? We dont have it...sorry" After threatning legal action I finally hear back saying "Oh BTW we found your gun its being repaired and ship it out ASAP". Got the gun back a week later, took it out shooting. First thing that happens is the rear sight comes flying off again.

Now im at a loss, how do i get rid of such an expensive peice of junk?

My other remorse has been my Kimber Stainless 2 1911. Since the day I purchased it, i have yet to get it to function correctly even after two visits to a gunsmith. They adjusted the extractor, polished feedramp and bored out the chamber. I thought 1911's were supposed to be that "pick up and shoot" kinda gun. But now im second guessing it and wondering if I should pick up a poly gun now.

Those are my two biggest disapointments. My collection includes a Bushy M4A2 (I LOVE THIS GUN), Norinco 5+1 Shotgun Bottom Ejection (Meh its a shotty), and a Ruger .300 Winmag (this thing roxxors my boxxors).

MustangHowie
December 24, 2007, 10:05 AM
I bought a Taurus PT101 .40 that was a beautiful gun. I was so excited when I bought it. When I shot it I hated it. My wife hated it too. After she shot it (this is the first time she had shot anything bigger than 9mm) I told her to try my 1911. I had to convince her it wasn't so bad. She shot the .45 and loved it. I still wanted a 40 so I went and traded the Taurus on a Sig Pro 2340 and couldn't be happier with the Sig. My wife ended up buying a Baby Eagle in .40 and she loves it.

That is the only gun I ever hated. Good ridence.

mgregg85
December 24, 2007, 09:36 PM
the only solution is to kep buying more

Phydeaux642
December 25, 2007, 10:45 PM
Buyers remorse after the Walther P22 I bought turned out to be a piece of junk. I also bought a Kel-tec Sub 2000 on impulse that I wish I would have let pass. I haven't even shot it yet but it just doesn't thrill me for some reason.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

Kman
December 27, 2007, 09:32 PM
Grimmy, use loctite on the bolts, blue bottle, as I think the red is almost permanent. The Kimber!? we need more info, and I hope they haven't ruined the barrel! could just be a bad mag, what exactly is happening.

P.S. Buyers remorse? only when I've paid too much, it happens.

papabear
December 27, 2007, 09:39 PM
I decide what I want before I buy. I dont trade or sell much. Dont have a safe full of queens but shoot what i do have.

Breakdaddy
December 28, 2007, 10:46 AM
Strangely, I get buyer's remorse for just about anything EXCEPT handguns. I end up finding reasons to love them but then again, most of mine are pretty easy to love.

Working Man
December 28, 2007, 10:51 AM
I get the non-buyer's remorse at times and kick myself for passing up a great
deal or somthing I realy want because I did not want to part with the cash at
the time.

I never feel like I have enough money saved.

RustyHammer
December 28, 2007, 01:41 PM
The only buyer's remorse I have is trying to find room in one of the safes to put it!

silverlance
December 28, 2007, 03:21 PM
always make sure that anything you buy will fetch almost as much if not more should you one day sell it.

that way you will never have buyer's remorse. granted, sometimes it may take a year or two to increase in value (like romanian ak parts kits right now), but as long as it has the definite potential you are ok.

the only gun ive ever had remorse was a stupid sig mosquito NIB. i paid retail and regretted it ever since. what a POS... unless all you want is a p22x series manual of arms gun, go for the trailside.

JPP
December 28, 2007, 06:36 PM
Never buyers remorse....
about 7 times of sellers remorse though........ :banghead:

JP

grimmysnr
December 29, 2007, 10:49 PM
Well the Kimber, since day 1 of buying it, has had failure to feed problems. Basically, when it cycles a round on the first or last round of the mag the bullet will start feeding and then get hung up on the extractor. Its like the lip on the back of the bullet doesnt slide in there or hits at a weird angle enough to jam up the slide. Iv tried the stock mag, a wilson combat mag, a shooting star mag, and even bought a couple more wilson combats from a local shop.

So while i was still in Washington i took it back to the gunshop i bought it from and gave it to their resident gunsmith. He took out the internal extractor and "adjusted" it, he said it would .something microns out of wack. So i took it shooting and it seemed to have cleared up, atleast while i was there. Came back after a couple weeks to go shooting again and sure enough first round the slide doesnt go all the way forward. All i have to do is push it with my thumb and it will just nudge forward and i continue shooting. But it only does it once the gun gets warmed up, probably after a mag or two.

I asked the gunsmith WTFO and he says "Well the gun is still brand new, come back once u get a few hundred rounds through it". I said fair enough and went shooting. By the time i got enough rounds through it i moved to Alaska and just went shooting whenever. The gun now has over 5k rounds through it and still have fail to feed.

I replaced the extractor with a Aftec spring loaded extractor and this didnt fix the problem. Took it to a local gunshop and he polished the feedramp and bored out the chamber a itsy bit. Took it out shooting once, and started having fail to extract problems. Come to find out they took the springs out of my Aftec extractor. Discovered this after i got home to clean it. Havnt been out shooting since i replaced my springs.

But, honestly, i dont think the problem is fixed. Im past the manufacturer warranty im sure, even describing the problem takes time.

Any ideas?

Oh yeah, and i shoot PMC or whatever brass i can get my hands on. I have been a bad boy and shot wolf through it once and only once. No failures with the wolf ammo though.

Boulder
January 2, 2008, 10:20 AM
I often have buyer's remorse, but it's not because I don't like the gun I just got, but rather there are so many others I want to experience as well but don't want to spend the money. The gun itself is fine and eventually becomes an accepted member of the family.

SGW42
January 2, 2008, 10:38 AM
With me it's not remorse over the gun I buy, it's the specific model of that gun.

My first handgun was a Ruger Mark II. I had decided hands down that's what I wanted. So I head to the shop and I see they have the 6" Standard model. I was ready and rearing to go, and I figured the Standard was enough for my first pistol. I take it out and shoot it, and I love it, but then I see all these folks at the range with their pretty Competition and Target models. Felt like I should have saved up a few more bucks and shopped some more instead of settling for the Standard.

I love that Standard and I'll never sell it, but I only corrected my "remorse" this past weekend when I finally got my own Mark III Competition Target.

tinygnat219
January 2, 2008, 11:57 AM
Yup,

With every Taurus I buy.

wanderinwalker
January 2, 2008, 12:08 PM
Honestly, I can't think of much, if any, buyer's remorse. A little seller's remorse from a couple of nice ones I let get away. There was this G-26 I had, with Heinie night sights, that I traded for a S&W 629. But then, the shop sold me the 26 LNIB and to this day I don't think it was, so I don't feel so bad about getting rid of that one, only buying it... :fire:

There may have been a twinge of buyer's remorse on my newest Kel-Tec, but then, I bought it for a purpose that wasn't to but 100's of rounds through in one sitting. It just bites to have a gun I can't or won't throw 100s and 1000s of rounds through. The next one will be a high-volume shooter, maybe a nice .22.

And no matter how much a firearm may cost, I just tell myself I don't motorcycle anymore, and guns don't need insurance, tires, gas, maintenance, registration, inspections, etc. And then I don't feel so bad! :o

MAURICE
January 3, 2008, 03:29 AM
Sigh....sellers remorse...
Kimber Ultra CDP II
SW 29
DPMS AR-15
Colt 1991a1
Ruger .357
Marlin .22 mag bolt actions (2 or 3)
HK USP 9mm
Sig 2340
Remmy 870 slug gun
Springfield Micro 1911 in 9mm

I don't think I will sell another gun for a long time.
If I had the chance (And money) I'd buy em all back.
Gotta start working on that....

nelson133
January 3, 2008, 05:40 AM
The only thing that comes close for me is didn't buy remorse. When I think about what I"ve passed up, oh, well.

rbernie
January 3, 2008, 11:33 AM
Anyone else suffer from extreme buyers remorse? Mine has tended to go away with the passing of time; the older I get and the more I buy/sell, the less I sweat the details and the more I get used to the impermanence of things.

callgood
January 3, 2008, 12:16 PM
The above is good advice. Years ago my wife and I used to think we wanted something, but the more time went by the less we found we needed it. Often by the time we had the money available (forget charging it) we really didn't care anymore. After a while it became something of a family joke.

.......................

Before credit cards, the availability/unavailability of cash worked the same way. The things people "needed" sometimes turned out to be not so necessary when the money to buy had been saved. Or something else like a new roof took precedence. Not the case now.

I have "shooter's remorse". The firearm I see myself shooting is more prone to stay in the safe while I'm taking care of life's demands. Every addition merely attenuates the anticipated pleasure of shooting the ones previously purchased. And I don't own nearly the number some people have. Other than as an investment, the concept of a large safe stuffed with iron that rarely, if ever, gets used is puzzling to me.

03Shadowbob
January 3, 2008, 12:44 PM
I don't think you have remorse but you have my syndrom which is wishing you could have bought all the guns instead of having to chose just one.
BTW, on the GP100, get the 4"SS full lug and adjustable sights. It's a fine firearm and IMO one of the best revolvers out there.

Buster34233
January 11, 2008, 10:27 AM
The weapon with the least soul that I ever bought was a Marlin Camp 45. I had wanted one for the longest time ... and should have left it that way. Marlin must have stopped making these out of pure embarrassment. I have had pellet guns that were of more sturdy design and were more satisfying to shoot. Dont get me wrong, it worked every time I asked it to ... kind of like a stapler I use every day ... with about the same feel to it.

snow
January 12, 2008, 12:09 PM
Sellers remorse on Yugo SKS and Keltec sub 9, buyers remorse on Sig Sauer mosquito.

Atticus
January 12, 2008, 04:21 PM
know I do...in pretty much anything I buy, and sadly it has extended into my newfound hobby of shooting handguns. Doesn't matter how much I research (and i often research a ton when i'm spending good money) as soon as I'm driving home with my new toy in my mind i'm like

I'm a little that way as well. I think we suffer from the Woody Allen Syndrome -
" I would never belong to a club that would have someone like me as a member."

EOTechRulesAll
January 12, 2008, 04:35 PM
I paid 800 dollars for a NIB Para-Ordnance and it failed to work with three types of different factory ammo. It cost $65 dollars to ship the gun back to them UPS Next Day Air. I will give lots of details and will make a follow-up post once I get it back, and if/when they reimburse my shipping costs.

I also had a PTR-91 fail to function new out of the box, it failed to fire 50% of the ammo I tried to put through it... Remington Core-Lokt, Silver Bear, Wolf, and South African Surplus. I had to send it back and just got it back a while ago, and have yet to make it out to the range to try it out and see if they actually fixed it.

I've had a number of guns fail to work, new out of the box, and I've never bought another product from any of those companies, and probably never will, aside from the few times when the companies paid my shipping and fixed the problem without complaining (Beretta comes to mind). I've bought multiple Beretta products, and will continue to do so.

BlindJustice
January 12, 2008, 05:32 PM
Not really, love my 1911 & S&Ws 625,617 & 60 but the 686P, I haven't gotten comfy with it, nothing wrong, I like the Guy Hogue Compac
Rosewood grips w/finger grooves & checkering, it's accurate but
just doesn't float my boat

Seller's remorse - S&W 18, 25 w/6 1/2" Bbl. Len. w/presentation
case, Browning Hi-Power w/adj. sights and a Colt COmbat Commander
that I let go all over 20 years ago. urgh.

Buyer's remorse - my first deer rifle was a Savage 99 in .303 Savage
lousy ballistics, didn't fit me, and had a weird to me lyman peep rear yuk

LouBurris
January 12, 2008, 05:34 PM
My remorse comes from the guns I did not buy. Lou

Dragonboy
January 12, 2008, 07:33 PM
1) buy gun.
2) load gun.
3) pull trigger.
go boom?

if yes, life is good.

if no, repeat steps 1 - 3.

I'm mostly kidding, but...whatever works.

Blackbeard
January 12, 2008, 07:44 PM
I usually put a lot of research into what I buy, so I haven't regretted buying anything, guns or otherwise. The other side to that coin is I end up stalling on purchases probably longer than I need to. I'm keeping a list of the guns I want to buy (a .40S&W, .22 rifle, AK clone, etc.) and collecting info on the attributes of each so I can settle on a particular model or models. Then I just go find the best price I can.

Impulse buys are most likely to get you into the remorse trap. I have a dollar limit for myself. I don't buy anything on impulse costing more than $50.

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