.30 cal CMP ammo: Wolf or Aguila?


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Remander
December 21, 2007, 01:50 AM
I'm thinking of putting in an order for some M1 carbine .30 caliber ammo from CMP.

They offer two choices:

1) Wolf .30 carbine, 110 grain, FMJ, copper jacketed, steel
case, non-corrosive, Berdan primed. 1000 rds per case.
$190.00 plus $17.62 S&H per case

2) Aquila .30 carbine, 110 grain, FMJ, copper jacketed, brass
case, non-corrosive, Boxer primed. 1000 rds per case.
$249.95 plus $17.62 S&H per case.

Leaning heavily to the Aguila, which makes good .22 ammo.

Any thoughts or experiences with these in .30?

Thanks

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Ian Sean
December 21, 2007, 03:02 AM
I would go and get a box or two of each and give them a try. My carbine does not like Wolf:mad: FTF, FTE all kinds of issues.

Soon as I feed it brass it is fine, just finicky with those steel cases I guess:confused:

S & B and Aguila work great in mine, though for serious plinking I reload my own.

Oohrah
December 21, 2007, 04:06 AM
With the straight wall case, non reloadable, I would go for number 2
and save the brass for reloads. Since the caliber has long ago not a
caliber in use, I suspect with a supply of CMP sold, the ammo scarcity
will most likely take place. Very easy to reload without issues.:)

asknight
December 21, 2007, 04:13 AM
S&B .30 Carbine is the cats meow in my '43 Inland. I like the Aquila too, but it's a little more smoky and leaves a tad more carbon residue in the barrel. Easily wiped out with Hoppes and a patch, though. A bit funny smelling, but I can deal with it.

Remander
December 21, 2007, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the replies.

You are right about Aguila smelling funny. The .22 ammo sure has an odd smell, but it is good stuff.

I'll probably try a case of Aguila.

MechAg94
December 21, 2007, 12:32 PM
I have found that Wolf works fine in my Carbine. I am reluctant to buy any though since it is not reloadable. I need to buy a case of ammo for it as well, but will likely look to S&B. I have found it to be good ammo in other calibers.

kBob
December 21, 2007, 01:04 PM
I know this will sound insane but before you order the Mexican consider the shipping cost and figure the price per round of reloadable cased ammo.

Then trot down to whatever mart and price the 100 round bulk boxes or old 50 round boxes, plus local taxes and figure cost per round. Ask a local gun dealer if he can get the US stuff even cheaper or close to as cheap.

I have shot neither russain steel cased berdan nor Mexican brass cased boxer primed ammo in a carbine. As I reload between the two I would choose the Mexican. The cartridge is easy to load and check the CMP site for tips on powder to use, weight of charge, type of bullet, and case trim length to get some good ideas on reloading for the Carbine.

I do not know how well they are constructed or how many reloads the Mexican ammo will be compared to Remington or Winchester or even S&B.

There is also a section on improving carbine accuracy through proper use of the recoil plate and front band arrangement.

You wqnted opinions so there it was.

-Bob Hollingsworth

rcmodel
December 21, 2007, 01:08 PM
Go with the brass.

Steel-case Commie ammo is for Commie guns!

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RustyHammer
December 21, 2007, 06:26 PM
CMP - Aquila -- old Winchester equipment sold to Mexico. Good stuff.

asknight
December 22, 2007, 02:07 AM
RustyHammer, it was Remington equipment.

DWH
December 22, 2007, 03:02 AM
My CMP Inland M1 Carbine eats Aguila for all meals and loves it!

U.S.SFC_RET
December 22, 2007, 08:44 AM
I shot three inch groups with Georgia arms canned heat. You just can't beat it.
I am reluctant to put through a chamber steel cases.

AnimeFanatic5602
December 15, 2009, 03:03 AM
I've wondered how the new Auto Ordinance M1 Carbines would take the steel ammo from Wolf.

Tim the student
December 15, 2009, 03:33 AM
Steel-case Commie ammo is for Commie guns!

Funny stuff. :D

tkopp
December 15, 2009, 04:06 AM
My universal carbine is perfectly happy to eat Wolf, for what it's worth. I mostly use brass for the local ranges that insist on it, but try to keep a couple hundred Wolf around for when I go to the steel-ambivalent range down south. It's just so much cheaper.

nwilliams
December 15, 2009, 04:10 AM
Wow necrothread rises!

WoofersInc
December 15, 2009, 04:16 AM
I've wondered how the new Auto Ordinance M1 Carbines would take the steel ammo from Wolf.

I've got one of those and the Wolf ammo runs fine in it.

SaxonPig
December 15, 2009, 10:55 AM
Locally I see the Wolf priced at $18 and the S&B at $22 which makes the CMP prices not so good. Have you shopped around for a better deal? Seems many shooter assume CMP is the best deal but not always.

Carl N. Brown
December 15, 2009, 11:03 AM
One box convinced me my carbine did not like Wolf steel cases: they stuck in the chamber. No problems with Aguila, Federal, Winchester, Remington or S&B. (My carbine is an IBM 1943 manufacture, reimported from Korea.)

The Aguila is new manufacture ammo, so the CMP prices are close to MSRP.

Guns and more
December 15, 2009, 06:16 PM
No Wolf ever in my firearms.

If I had an AK-47 maybe, but otherwise, no.

DougW
December 15, 2009, 09:32 PM
MY AO runs fine with Wolf. No issues at all.

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