sig 220 vs ruger p90


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Blarelli
December 21, 2007, 05:44 PM
I've decided that it is time to get a .45 again, and have narrowed it down to the above mentioned models (unless somebody has a better suggestion). Both Ruger and Sig have excellent reliability, and both of those models have exceptional accuracy. Between these two guns, what is your personal preference, and why?

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1BLINDREF
December 21, 2007, 06:00 PM
My personal preference - Sig all the way.
You'll spend a little more, but you get what you pay for. The Sig is much more accurate and the quality is better than a Ruger.
The Sigs just seem to fit me best.
I would suggest shooting both guns and seeing which one "fits" you better.

jmr40
December 21, 2007, 06:10 PM
I have had both in the past and slightly prefer the Sig. I have found the Rugers, especially the P90, to be very accurate and reliable. The Sig's feel better to me, but adding a Hogue grip does wonders to the Ruger. When you consider the Ruger is about 1/2 the price of the Sig and that magazines are much cheaper and easier to find for the Ruger this is a close call for me.

Hokkmike
December 21, 2007, 06:13 PM
Rugers are like TANKS and they are dependable. SIGS are like TANKS with better ergonomics but you pay for them. Either gun would be a great choice. Two of my friends shoot with Rugers and neither one of them has ever had a misfire in my presence. No one I shoot with can afford a SIG though they are great guns.

gcrookston
December 21, 2007, 06:46 PM
Sig. Nothing against Ruger (I own a few), but Sig.

rjk2475
December 21, 2007, 07:22 PM
the only gun that improves my shooting a .45 is my 1911, and that just a slight amout over my 220.

P97
December 21, 2007, 11:53 PM
I would choose the P90DC.

loop
December 22, 2007, 02:21 AM
You cannot make any physical adjustments to the frame or slide on the Ruger due to the frame and slide being cast. To improve accuracy in an auto the slide is often "tightened" by squeezing the sides of the frame. That will break a Ruger slide. So, if the gun needs frame/slide fit adjustment, out of the box or after 10,000 rounds, with Ruger it can't be done. That aside, IMHO, the any Sig is better than any Ruger auto...

33-805
December 22, 2007, 03:05 AM
I would get the Sig P220. I have used both brands over the years and I still have the Sig. Accurate, reliable, beautifully made.

mjrodney
December 22, 2007, 07:33 AM
Both handguns have the correct design geometry to make a reliable handgun.

Each is manufactured to a very specific price point and market, and the Sig is directed towards the higher end.

nelson133
December 22, 2007, 07:46 AM
I like my Rugers, but the Sig P220 is the most accurate autoloader I own. On a strictly dollar issue, the Ruger is a better buy. If you can afford it, the Sig is a better gun.

Texastbird
December 22, 2007, 03:25 PM
I'm a big Ruger fan because the size of the P89 and P90 really fits my hand well. That is the key, what fits you the best. And I don't really think the average shooter is going to wear out a Ruger. I know I've been trying to shoot out mine for years and years, and they just keep getting better. If I were going to buy a Sig it would definitely be the 1911- its all stainless.

The Lone Haranguer
December 22, 2007, 06:59 PM
Ruger:
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/database/cars/000630-200708-000137big.jpg

SIG:
http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2006/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/Sedan/2006_MercedesBenz_E-Class_ext_1.jpg

OhioPaints
December 22, 2007, 07:15 PM
It depends on the use you plan for the gun.

For CCW, the Sig is slimmer, conceals fairly well (although not as well as a 1911 which is slimmer yet).

The P90 is a good gun (IMO) but the Ruger P line is a bit broad and clunky. That's not a problem for casual shooting but makes it harder to conceal if you are using it for CCW.

I had a P90, and liked it but it was stolen. I have a Sig P220 on my hip right now as my CCW gun. It is a VERY nice shooter, it feels more like a 9mm than a .45.

IMO, the trigger (especially DA) is much better on the Sig than the Ruger although the trigger on the Ruger wasn't bad.

But I do wish I had the Ruger back too. I understand that it and a S&W .22 revolver were traded by the thief for a couple of oxycontin pills :(

Ken

Constantine-p89
December 22, 2007, 07:20 PM
Ruger is tough and Sig is tough but the sig is more.

tbtrout
December 22, 2007, 08:43 PM
Sig all the way. You will not be dissapointed.

cslinger
December 22, 2007, 08:55 PM
Is this a trick question. :scrutiny:

Just kidding. The Ruger P90 is a great firearm and I doubt you would feel as if you made a bad decision buying the P90.

That being said I am a SIG guy all the way. The P220 is the better gun IMO. Now I don't believe it is several hundred dollars better but it is the better gun. Cast my vote for the P220.

Richard
December 22, 2007, 09:20 PM
I have owned them both and i do not see the Sig as being worth its price as opposed to the Ruger. I sold my P220 and I still have my Ruger P90 and P97. Regards, Richard:D

OhioPaints
December 22, 2007, 10:01 PM
I have owned them both and i do not see the Sig as being worth its price as opposed to the Ruger. I sold my P220 and I still have my Ruger P90 and P97. Regards, Richard

Thankfully we have a broad range of opinions. I would hate for everyone to agree and have all but one manufacturer go out of business!

Ken

TNT.45
December 22, 2007, 10:05 PM
Its very simple.........Sig Sauer!

CZ57
December 22, 2007, 10:19 PM
You have more options than the P-90 from Ruger. There were some early growing pains with the P-345, but that's fairly common with a new design. Forget about them with current production.

The locking system is within itself a recoil reduction system that, IMO, rivals H&K, may be better. It is one of the most comfortable .45 ACPs I've ever fired, even with +P. It's trimmer than the P-220 with a grip shape similar to a CZ. I've worked up a number of Golden Saber handloads (185 & 230 gr. standard and +P) that will rest 5 shots under an inch at 50', so it's plenty accurate enough for defense.

I'm a SIG fan also, but there's a lot to like about the P-345. The complaints about the passive safeties are way overblown, IMO. You can disable the magazine safety if you prefer. Very easy to do. Just a thought.;)

KrankyKraut
December 23, 2007, 12:33 AM
I haven't shot a P90, but I shot a P97 vs. a Sig P220. I loved the P97. It was as accurate as the P220; I actually shot it better. Now, the P97 trigger was weird, very long pull, but pretty smooth. The trigger is superior on the SIG. However, a barely used P97 can be had here in CA for between $250 and $299. A used SIG is at least double that. So, bang for the buck goes to the Ruger. Of course, the Ruger has zero status; something to consider here in SoCal. :)

klover
December 23, 2007, 12:39 AM
because if you keep an eye out for a nice used one, sometimes you can get it for a great price of say $450 or so. You can then put 5,000 rounds through it and still sell it for what you bought it for.

Oh, and did I say once you try a 220, you will always want to have at least one stashed somewhere.

Of course one Sig can never possibly be enough.....:uhoh:

glock30
December 23, 2007, 12:59 AM
I had a p90 and it was very reliable, but the p220 was more accurate for me. For the price difference it's a close call.

Josh Aston
December 23, 2007, 01:06 AM
Ruger
http://images.zap2it.com/20050608/kathybates_240_001.jpg

Sig
http://www.moviesforguys.com/movieimages/residentevil.jpg

bdg146
December 23, 2007, 01:36 AM
I have a P90, and love it. I have the hogue grips on it, which are extremely comfortable. I've shot a P95 with the standard ruger grips (similar to what is on the standard P90), and found them so-so. If you go with a P90, get the hogues. But be warned, the hogues are pretty fat. Nothing extreme, but I can see how someone who likes a slimmer grip would hate it.

All that being said, I've never shot a sig 220, or any sig for that matter. My honest opinion is that you have to decide for yourself. I wouldn't let price play too much of a role in that decision either. If you love the 220, but go with the P90 b/c of price, you'll probably regret it and wonder why you just didn't wait a little longer and save a little more money.

Zach S
December 23, 2007, 01:40 AM
If price was a major concern, I'd go with a P90. If not, I'd choose the P220. If you can get a used P220, its still gonna be more than the P90.

The P220 fits me better, with the exception of the slide stop. It doesnt work, but thats my fault, I shoot 1911s high thumb, and therefore do so on everything that has a spot to put my thumb...

gunman42782
December 23, 2007, 02:22 AM
I have never owned a Sig, but my P90 is the single most accurate .45 ACP I have ever owned and I have owned several.

Bones11b
December 23, 2007, 10:23 AM
Fired both, bought a Sig. Sold my first P220 due to financial reasons and kicked myself for doing so untill I was able to get myself a new one. My new P220 is on my nightstand right now.

Commander Guineapig
December 23, 2007, 04:56 PM
first 9mm was a ruger.
latest is a sig.

Ruger makes great handguns, I love their revolvers, but their centerfire autoloaders are bricks (to me anyways). I got rid of my P90 and never have looked back.
Since then, I've loved every autoloader I've shot more then the Ruger.
back later, gonna go fondle my Sig...again...


GP

Ala Dan
December 23, 2007, 06:32 PM
Nothing wrong with either; but my favorite guns are kind'a like the women
I like: beautiful~! :D

So, with that said I will have too vote for the SIG P220~! :cool: ;)

possum
December 23, 2007, 08:29 PM
also check out the p345 i have one that is extremely accurate, sa trigger is great and the da isn't bad is pretty smooth plus i got a great deal on it nib.

of the two though i would go with the sig, hck its a sig and everyone needs a sig!

novaDAK
December 23, 2007, 08:43 PM
You people are sad if the worst thing you can find to say about the Ruger is about its looks...

IIRC Ruger went to a Bar-Sto engineer to design the barrels after they got bad feedback on their original P85.

possum
December 23, 2007, 08:47 PM
to me looks don't matter especially if the gun is for me and not my fashion oriente wife, as long as a gun s accurate reliable, and generally good to go then i am happy. and who says the rugers are ugly. i happen to think that my p345 is pretty darn sexy!

obxned
December 23, 2007, 09:19 PM
The Sig MUST be better - it cost twice as much.

..and a big +! on the P345!!!

iostorm
December 23, 2007, 10:17 PM
I bet I could drag my P90 behind my car for 5 miles and it would still work flawless..............

12131
December 24, 2007, 01:09 AM
The Ruger P90 is one of my favorite .45 pistols.

sig226
December 24, 2007, 03:57 AM
Join the Sig mafia.

loop
December 24, 2007, 05:34 AM
We had an exercise in an IDPA course where you lay on your back and hold you hands over your head and fire on a target in a doorway. (Simulating lying under your bed and firing at an intruder.) All the Rugers failed to function when held upside down. It may be that the three Rugers in the match all had some other malfunction that caused the same problem in all three.
But, no other guns suffered from that problem.
It is worthy of note that the majority of guns at that meet were Glocks, Kimbers and Sigs. They all functioned flawlessly upside down.
Incidentally, the intruder had your mother in law as a hostage. It was surprising how many shooters accepted the points dock for shooting through the hostage...

FireArmFan
December 24, 2007, 06:22 AM
Another vote for the Sig 220. I rented one and it was a good shooter. Went to the store to buy one and ended up walking out with a HK P2000. The P220 is still on my list and the only reason I changed my mind is because the P2000 is a little more left hand friendly than the P220. I'll probably get the Sig after I get my 1911 I've been dreaming about.

OhioPaints
December 24, 2007, 07:39 AM
Another vote for the Sig 220. I rented one and it was a good shooter. Went to the store to buy one and ended up walking out with a HK P2000.

I traded a HK USP9 in when I bought my Sig P220. There was nothing wrong with the USP, but it was just not a gun that I took to.

Ken

R12GS
December 24, 2007, 08:01 AM
Ruger vs Sig? Ok, so I'm waiting for the punchline.......

Koblenz
December 24, 2007, 08:01 AM
Should you run across a used S&W 645 or 4506, those are great .45s also. I have owned a 645 and now own a SIG 220. I can't say I would prefer one over the other.

Regarding the price of the SIG, there is one hell of a lot of markup that takes place when guns cross the Atlantic. I once went into a gun shop in Mainz, Germany. I was shocked at how much cheaper the German guns were there than in this country.

Moonclip
December 24, 2007, 08:29 AM
Sig Sauer. And I own a P97 and a P90. Have owned and shot other P90's and 97's and fired the P220 before. And I own other Sig Sauer handguns. Depends on the purpose you want the gun for too I suppose. I lust after a stainless Sig Sauer P220.

Jeff Timm
December 24, 2007, 09:04 AM
Take a look at some of the new .45s on the market. The FN, the S&W M&P and the Beretta PX-4. There is also a new compact SIG 220 on the market.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=50&productid=166

Geoff
Who notes smaller is often better.

skywarp_
December 24, 2007, 04:28 PM
the sig doesnt feel like holding a 2x4 glued to a brick.

Slim sexy and respected by military/ LE forces worldwide.....

SwampWolf
December 24, 2007, 05:29 PM
IMO, the SIG is over-priced and the Ruger is under-priced. I shot both before I decided and chose the SIG. For me, the SIG felt better in my hand and I much preferred its trigger. You might think differently. Try both and, if you end up liking the Ruger better, you will save a lot of money going with it.

Merry Christmas all!

DENALI
December 24, 2007, 05:33 PM
Sig P-220 or Ruger P-90? Hm, is this some kind of trick question!....:what:

Tberger688
December 27, 2007, 04:20 PM
A comparison between a Rugar and a Sig is not possible.
A comparison between a Les Bear and a Sig now there is a possible comparison.

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