Drilling ?


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Gordon
December 21, 2007, 09:37 PM
I found a 95% (on the metal, the forend is very thin and has cracks) nice hammer 16ga, 9.3x72R German Drilling for $700. It is so light (about 7 pounds on the nose) and nice handling it is amazing! Based on the proofs it was made between 1921 and 1933 and is fully nitro proofed on the Krupp Fluss Stahl barrels.The 16ga chambers appear to be 2 3/4" and are polished like maybe they were deepened. The owner is deceased, but it was a WW2 bring back.The action is like new tight and stiff with the Kersten bolting system. I have been wanting a slim , nitro proofed German hammer gun, but didn't expect the rifle barrel to be thrown in for what I could afford!
The downside is the rifle is the older and weaker 9.3x72r chambering, Sellier and Belliot still makes shells and I can get them for $40 a box. I cerrosafed the chamber (to find out the cartridge it took), the bore is tight for a 9.3, as most 72Rs are apparently.I gather you don't want to load the 286-300 grain commonly available bullets for it-better stick to 200 grain lead ones as the barrel is startlingly thin!
I have it apart for a complete cleaning as it has 80 year old grease every where inside and I want to repair the foreend cracks before I shoot the thing. It is a "Hubertus" 'DRP' marked gun. It came with a quick detachable claw mounted off set side of barrells factory scope set up with a 1.75x Optylith scope that unfortunately has the ocular lens broken:( the claw mounts are built into the scope tube , I'll see if anyone can repair it.I'll take pictures when I get it back together. Just what I needed- another money pit! But at least I bought low-I think!:cool:

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ArmedBear
December 21, 2007, 10:07 PM
The downside is the rifle is the older and weaker 9.3x72r chambering

You just had to find something to complain about.:p

Sounds like a neat gun!

Dave McCracken
December 21, 2007, 10:10 PM
Sounds like a great project, Gordon. Keep us posted on the progress, please.

Don't sell the rifle barrel short. Being fastened to the two shotgun tubes makes it pretty stiff and capable of good accuracy.

And the 9.3x72R packs more moxie than the old 38-55, known for its effect on deer sized game.

DO have your smith look it over before shooting it.

Enjoy....

MCgunner
December 22, 2007, 09:31 AM
Wow, great find! My uncle brought back a JP Sauer in 16 ga over 8x57JR after the war. My cousin has it now and I couldn't even get a look at it for 700 bucks, LOL! I have fired that gun, though, neat, neat. If I could find something like yours and had the money, I'd be all over it. Of course, you need dies now and a mold. Used to could get the brass on Ebay, but now Ebay has an anti-gun policy.

rcmodel
December 22, 2007, 02:14 PM
I gather you don't want to load the 286-300 grain commonly available bullets for it-better stick to 200 grain lead ones as the barrel is startlingly thin!I think the original bullet was a 186 or 193 grain, and thats what the rifle sights will be regulated for.

Trying to go to a 300 or something would most likely result in the sights being way out of whack with where it would shoot anyway.

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mswestfall
December 22, 2007, 07:53 PM
I saw the same configuration at one of the Bass Pro Shop (or Cabala's) Fine Gun Room's. The gun was in about 80% condition. IIRC they wanted $2,800.

The more I age, the more I want one.

highorder
December 22, 2007, 08:10 PM
a look @ gunbroker turns up several drillings. the strange thing is, three or four of the sellers dont know what caliber the rifle barrel is...

Does anyone know where new drillings can be had? say in 20x20x.358 Winchester?

Jim Watson
December 22, 2007, 10:12 PM
Kreighoff, Merkel, and Heym will make you a new drilling. Don't know about that caliber combination, though. Merkel is much the least expensive, starting about $8000.

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