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Dave Markowitz
December 24, 2007, 12:42 PM
I know that a lot of THR members have Ruger Mini-14s that they like for plinking, truck guns, varmint control, and defense. Let's see some pics.

First, my blued 182-series Mini-14, with an Eagle HK-style flash suppressor and front sight, and Brownell's Latigo sling. Both the rifle and the Ruger factory 20 rounder were law enforcement trade-ins.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/davemarkowitz/Mini-14s/182-series-Mini-14-blue.jpg

Second is another LE trade-in, this one a stainless 186-series Mini-14GB. I just put it in the Butler Creek folder this morning. The magazine is a Ruger factory 20 in stainless steel, the only one I've seen.

Open...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/davemarkowitz/Mini-14s/186-series-Mini-14GB-open.jpg

...and folded...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/davemarkowitz/Mini-14s/186-series-Mini-14GB-folded.jpg

Note the extra evil bayonet lug. :evil: I plan to add a set of 1.25" QD swivels and a sling. In this configuration it'll make a nice, compact, low-maintenance gun to stow in the truck on road trips.

Let's see what you've got.

(I would appreciate it if the Mini-14 bashers -- you know who you are -- would not crap on this thread.)

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Gunsnrovers
December 24, 2007, 12:49 PM
I like mine. Makes for a fun shooter and a decent 50~100 yard rifle. My wife likes it too which adds value. I've had this one since 1992. Aside from a few stuck cases which have been cleared with a swift kick and a few failures to feed while I played with smaller gas ports, it's been a reliable little rifle.

The Hogue stock fits a lot better. The accu-strut up front appears to have tightened the groups. A trigger job helps as well.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/mrbieler/mini_14-1.jpg

Dave Markowitz
December 24, 2007, 01:19 PM
Jeff,

Very nice! Did you have your barrel chopped?

686S&W
December 24, 2007, 01:23 PM
Look at the pretties.

Have an AR, an AK, and looking to add a Mini to my collection soon.

Gunsnrovers
December 24, 2007, 01:26 PM
Not chopped, but I've been debating that as an option.

Dave Markowitz
December 24, 2007, 02:00 PM
Have an AR, an AK, and looking to add a Mini to my collection soon.

If you do like I did and can find a law enforcement trade-in, they are pretty reasonably priced. E.g., I paid $350 for the blued rifle in 2003 (w/o the Eagle front sight/flash hider), and about $450 for the stainless GB last year. The Butler Creek stock on the GB was about $70 at a gun show a few years ago.

JKimball
December 24, 2007, 02:32 PM
This has been a fun gun. I bought it used and unfortunately paid more than a new one would cost, but I fell in love with the feel (and look) of the stock and couldn't pass it up. The stock stock just doesn't seem to agree with me.

I haven't put more than a thousand rounds through it, but it hasn't had a single malfunction so far.

Dave Markowitz
December 24, 2007, 07:32 PM
Interesting, I've never seen a Mini-14 with a sporter stock like that.

I'm not surprised with the lack of malfunctions. Mini-14s are generally extremely reliable as long as you have somewhat decent ammo and good magazines.

Josh Aston
December 24, 2007, 07:35 PM
Anyone know where I can find one of the M14 (long birdcage) style flash hiders for the mini?

armoredman
December 24, 2007, 07:42 PM
I have a new 580 series I am handloading for, but no add ons yet. Did make for some interesting pictures...very photogenic rifle.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0071.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/tooluser.jpg

Cron
December 24, 2007, 09:44 PM
Here's mine, with an old steel tube Weaver 1 1/2 x 4 1/2.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/RonJ_2006/Mini14-1.jpg

TIMC
December 24, 2007, 10:10 PM
I've owned this one twice. Gave it away as a birthday gift to my dad many years ago then bought it back from him when he wanted to upgrade to an AR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/mini14.jpg?t=1198548149

Uncle Chan
December 25, 2007, 03:32 PM
TIMC,

Where did you get the bipod? I would like to get one like it for my Mini.

U.C.

deth502
December 25, 2007, 04:05 PM
i have the same ss le trade in folder that i got a little over a yr ago (came with the ss folder) not 450 though :( iirc, it was $600. you got a deal on that one, ive not seen them that cheap!! i could have had one w/ the factory stock for 500, but that was the cheapest i could find.

DannyinJapan
December 25, 2007, 05:43 PM
I LOVE MINI-14s. Great Rifle. I wish our military adopted it. (I only wish it had a striaght-in magazine.)

TIMC
December 25, 2007, 07:08 PM
TIMC,

Where did you get the bipod? I would like to get one like it for my Mini.

U.C.

I don't remember exactly where I bought that one but they are easy to find. A quick search showed a bunch on Ebay pretty cheap.
Here is one like mine...
http://cgi.ebay.com/RIFLE-BIPOD-HUNTING-SNIPER-BARREL-MOUNT-8-13-5-LEGS_W0QQitemZ300184587775QQihZ020QQcategoryZ73959QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Pigspitter
December 25, 2007, 08:52 PM
I love the look of the mini's. I have a question though; what is the deal with the barrel whip I hear about on the Mini's? I haven't had the chance to shoot one yet so I don't know if it makes a huge difference.

boalex207
December 25, 2007, 08:55 PM
Dave and others,

where can LE trade in Mini-14's be found ? and for how much ?

Merry Christmas

dstark
December 25, 2007, 09:59 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=69742&stc=1&d=1198634288

Dave Markowitz
December 25, 2007, 10:17 PM
boalex,

Both of mine were bought from a local FFL who frequently buys LE trade in guns. You might look around for local gun shops who do that or who would be willing to order you one from a distributor.

The last time I saw blued LE trade in Mini-14s locally, they were around $375 to $400.

Tarvis
December 25, 2007, 10:44 PM
My mini is a SS LE ranch rifle trade in I got for $400. It has an aftermarket stock and I put a 1.5-6x Millet scope on it. Mags are touch and go, it's almost worthwhile to try and find ruger 20-rounders (hard, I know) so you don't have ftf problems. Last few I saw, however, were $50 each and it took the shop a while to get a hold of em, but unless you're shooting rabbits (I carry at minimum 90 rounds), I'd get one or two for target shooting, budget permitting.

where can LE trade in Mini-14's be found ? and for how much ?
Some dealers have a contract, maybe just an agreement with LE agency's to buy thier trade-ins and sell them new rifles/pistols.

(I would appreciate it if the Mini-14 bashers -- you know who you are -- would not crap on this thread.)
piss on 'em, they can have thier opinion and eat it too :D. My meenee is the best truck/rabbit gun I could ever want. IMHO, inherent rifle accuracy goes out the window when a rabbit is running 30 mph at 40 yards, its all feel baby. Besides 1 round or 3, it dies just the same.

Benelli Shooter
December 26, 2007, 12:06 AM
Here is mine. It is a great coyote brush gun.

armoredman
December 26, 2007, 12:14 AM
What type of mount isthat for your scope, Benelli?

Benelli Shooter
December 26, 2007, 12:18 AM
It is an Ultimak with an Aimpoint Comp ML2. The barrel is cut down to 16". It groups an honest 2-3" with no POI shift when it heats up. Never, ever malfunctions. It is a great, fast handling rifle.

22/22mag
December 26, 2007, 04:04 AM
Mini-30 Python (snake skin)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/skinnygun/python2.jpg
Mini-14 folding wood stock (for sale $500)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/skinnygun/IMG_0015-1.jpg
Mini-14 pistol grip.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/skinnygun/IMG_0003-6.jpg

Dave Markowitz
December 26, 2007, 10:32 AM
Last few I saw, however, were $50 each and it took the shop a while to get a hold of em...

J&G Sales and 44mag.com both list OEM Ruger 20s in stock, so you can order directly. CDNN and CTD sometimes have them as well. Unfortunately, you're correct about the price. After the AWB expired the market price was about $35 but it's gone up to about $50 today. Again, if you can find an FFL who handles LE trade-ins you can get them cheaper. E.g., I have some hardly used trade-ins which I paid $25 for. I even have a Ruger factory 30 rounder for which I paid the whopping sum of $20. :D

Benelli Shooter: Who 'smithed your rifle? It looks a lot like one I saw in a gun mag about 10 years ago.

Benelli Shooter
December 26, 2007, 11:38 AM
DRC guns in Texas did mine. He does excellent work. My only complaint was the wait. It was around 6 months. But, he does good work.

My Garand is more accurate off the bench. But, I did a test at 100 yards with 12" steel plates. From kneeling, I compared the two rifles. I could consistently get more hits with the Mini than the Garand. The Mini is an easy gun to shoot.

Squidward
December 26, 2007, 05:05 PM
Wow, just... wow!! :what:

JerBear
December 26, 2007, 08:40 PM
Here's my new Mini-14 in 6.8 SPC.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/6_8scope_Large_.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/6_8full_Large_.jpg

Dave Markowitz
December 26, 2007, 09:06 PM
JerBear,

Welcome to THR. That's a nice looking rifle. What kind of accuracy are you getting with it?

def4pos8
December 27, 2007, 04:37 PM
If this loads, it'll show my slightly modified Ranch Rifle. Specs: Hogue Overmold stock; Accuracy Systems adjustable gas block; Ruger Govt/LE 20-rd magazine; Leupold 6x42, Reticle #4.

I'll likely tape the 'scope soon to reduce its glare.

This is my KISS carbine. A 580-series, it's very accurate, light, handy and easy to maintain.

Snapping Twig
December 27, 2007, 07:25 PM
Do Mini 30's count? If so, here's mine. :)

GunDoc trigger job, torqued gas block and 150g reloads. It's an older .308 model and came with this Butler Creek stock.

http://http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/SnappingTwig1/ruger1.jpg

CPLofMARINES
December 27, 2007, 08:30 PM
Quick question guys, does the MINI-14 take 5.56 or .223 REM.



Semper Fi!!

Dave Markowitz
December 27, 2007, 08:35 PM
Snapping Twig ... Sure, we'll accept the Mini-14's brother into the club.

CPLofMarines ... while the receiver is marked .223, as far as I know they have 5.56mm chambers. The owner's manual says that they are meant for .223 or 5.56. I have shot plenty of 5.56mm in my 182-series Mini-14 with no problems.

CPLofMARINES
December 27, 2007, 08:40 PM
Thank You, Dave:)

Sistema1927
December 27, 2007, 08:43 PM
I don't have one now, but I have owned two, including one of the very first in 1974.

I took that rifle to High School in a pickup truck rack, showed it off to the Assistant Principal in the school parking lot (things sure have changed, and not for the better), and used it to shoot coyotes to pay for a couple of semesters of college.

armoredman
December 27, 2007, 08:50 PM
Yes, Mini-14s are made for both 5.56 and .223 Rem. I need the gas block - how much are they, and do I need an gunsmith to install it?

def4pos8
December 27, 2007, 11:04 PM
Cost of the Accuracy Systems tunable gas block is $90 + shipping.

I installed it myself. You must be careful to "step-torque" the cap screws, slowly tightening them in an alternating pattern, just as any mechanic would do for cylinder head bolts or cylinder base nuts/bolts. I checked the screws after warming things with twenty rounds but haven't had to bother with 'em since.

A decent instruction sheet is included. Reading and understanding it certainly helps make what you need to do very clear. I thought the install was easy.

JerBear
December 28, 2007, 12:39 AM
"Dave Markowitz said:
... What kind of accuracy are you getting with it?"_______________________________

With the right ammo it shoots great! With factory ammo--Hornady 110 gr. vmax and Silver State 115gr. Sierra HP--it groups about 2 to 2-1/2 moa, but with handloads it does even better Here's a .jpeg of the last 100 yard target I shot. The target contains about 20 bullet holes shot while sighting in the scope. I made 3 or 4 scope adjustments; bringing the point of impact down and to the left.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/6_8_target_Small_.JPG

These handloads are 115 gr. HPBT (MidwayUSA blemished bullet special; I think they're the discontinued Hornady bullets.) However, it shoots equally well with 90 gr. Speer TNT HP and 110 gr. ProHunters. I've only loaded with Hodgdon H322 powder and Win SR primers so far. The brass is the small primer Silver State which is excellent!

jobu07
December 28, 2007, 10:30 AM
My humble addition. Some changes have been made to the rifle since the pic was taken.

Tarvis
December 29, 2007, 07:45 PM
It's an older .308 model and came with this Butler Creek stock.


Ahem, did I read that right? You have one of the prototype's for the mini 308, or are you confusing 7.62x39 with 7.62x51 (.308), the former being what mini 30's are chambered for..


Also: I set up my dillon for reloading .223, but the brass I'm using (fired from several different rifles, mostly from my dad's well worn mini14) doesn't fit in the chamber of my rifle; the bolt doesn't fully close without serious force. It will still fire, even when bolt isnt fully closed, but as you can probably guess I stopped loading with the old brass. Anyone had this problem before? Anyone know a solution? Fireforming, just shoot it, buy new brass???

deth502
December 29, 2007, 07:53 PM
'84, i beleive or was it '85

id sure like to see some more pics of the .308 ruger.

any thoughts of selling??

ive never actually seen one, but i know one of the main probs was billy ruger not wanting to sell a rifle to the general public that could use those dangerous high caps!!

will it take a m-14 mag or do you need special ruger mags??

armoredman
December 29, 2007, 09:08 PM
The Mini 308 was never sold, to the best of my knowledge, it wasn't reliable or accurate. Too bad.
Tarvis, I have used some pretty beat brass so far, to reload for my 580 series, and full length resizing them has given me no issues whatsoever. If you necksize, stop - works far better to full length. I am using standard Lee .223 dies, BTW.

RH822
December 29, 2007, 09:29 PM
Here's mine, I've had it since 1983 and have never had any problems with it.

69990

69991

def4pos8
December 30, 2007, 12:38 AM
Snapping Twig's 7.62 X 39 has a GROOVE diameter of .308. Some makers produced barrels/rifles to that dimension, rather than .310/.311. My sizing dies have expander balls for both.

Some makers thought that availability of .310/.311 bullets would be sort of thin as the cartridge just began to become popular and chambered/rifled their products to accept readily available .308 bullets. Most makers have gone to the standard .310/.311 by now.

Snapping Twig has one of these early products.

RCR29
December 30, 2007, 03:43 AM
I'll play. My 182 series GB


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/springfield1911/DSC09192.jpg

Snapping Twig
December 30, 2007, 03:44 AM
Thanks def4pos8. :)

You are correct, the groove diameter on my Mini is .308 as opposed to .311 and the bullet selection is fantastic.

Mine really likes 150g bullets. I get under 3" groups at 100 yards and I am strongly leaning to getting an Accu-Strut to tighten it up even more.

To my way of thinking, this Mini is excellent for practicing my marksmanship at 1/2 the cost powder-wise. My 30-06 uses between 49 to 57 grains of various powders, whereas the Mini uses 23.5 grains. Add to this the hard hitting power of a 150g bullet leaving the muzzle at @ 2100fps and you have a short bodied, easy swinging semi auto rifle to hunt with.

Not that I'm in the business, but it would make a great SHTF rifle too. :)

IrvJr
December 30, 2007, 08:35 AM
I have a new style Mini 14 Ranch stainless (the 580 series with the garand-style sights). I like it a lot. light, reliable, accurate enough (i only shoot it at a max of 100 yards) and fun. some day I'd like to develop some handloads for my mini - i've heard that they can shoot more accurately with a heavier weight bullet.

i've posted a link to this article before, but there was a SWAT magazine article about the Mini 14 vs the AR-15 floating around and it had some good things to say about the Mini.

http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/200203-AR-15_vs_Mini-14.pdf

In the article the author puts a handful of dirt the magazine well of each gun and shakes it around. After cleaning each gun's barrel, he tries to test fire a magazine from each gun. The Mini 14 ran fine, but the AR experienced a malfunction.

A lot of folks seem to despise the mini, but I think it's a good lightweight carbine/plinker. It has good practical accuracy and it's easy to maintain.

def4pos8
December 30, 2007, 10:00 PM
There are reasons Ruger's lawyers don't like reloaded cartridges and say so using large, red letters in the user's manuals.

Failing to small-base/full-length size, measure, and trim to specification .223/5.56mm brass can result in failures to chamber and/or unsupported, inertial ignition of a cartridge. This is bad.:scrutiny:

I've observed it once, in an M-1A, and that was enough. An inch lower and the shooter would have had the bolt in his skull. That guy ruined a fine, match rifle because he was sloppy in his reloading technique.:(

Whatever the source -- Speer, Hornady, Nosler, Accurate, etc -- manuals tell us to be much more careful with case prep for self-loading (semi-auto) or auto-loading rifles. Sloppy production techniques are simply dangerous.

Tarvis
December 31, 2007, 01:06 PM
I'm not sure if i checked the length, but that could be the problem. I use a dillon 550 for .223 with the dillon dies and I'm not sure if it's a full length, so I'll have to check.

SwampWolf
December 31, 2007, 01:46 PM
I'd appreciate recommendations for the best folding stock available for the Mini-14. Thanks.

Tarvis
December 31, 2007, 02:35 PM
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0012777227293a.shtml

Thats what my old man has (circa 1988) but I'm sure they're the same as they were back then. I like it a lot, thinkin about one for my mini.

Question: how do you tell what series a mini is?

Dave Markowitz
December 31, 2007, 05:08 PM
Question: how do you tell what series a mini is?

By the first three digits of the serial number, in the format "xxx-".

SwampWolf
January 1, 2008, 01:35 AM
Thanks, Tarvis.

GTKrockeTT
January 1, 2008, 04:24 AM
My ranch...

Great West Gunsmithing Package B - trigger job, Accraglass with atomized aluminum stock bedding, barrel cut to 16.5", crown and thread combo, gas port bushings, and a recoil buffer. John aka "Gundoc" also added a Smith muzzle brake.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8971/img1182mediumai0.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3711/img1183mediumvz0.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5674/img1184mediumbc1.jpg

Dave Markowitz
January 1, 2008, 01:15 PM
Beautiful rifle!

Tarvis
January 1, 2008, 08:10 PM
How does the "scout" scope rail mount at the rear? looks like it mounts to the gas block on the front and possibly the stock, but I'm assuming it mounts to the barrel to keep it immobile. Also, is that a heavy barrel? Also also, I don't suppose you could take a pic of your sear so I could see what he modified ;).

Thanks, Tarvis.

No problem.

By the first three digits of the serial number, in the format "xxx-".

Thanks

Uncle Chan
January 1, 2008, 10:03 PM
http://www.ultimak.com/m4.htm

scope mount.

Tarvis
January 2, 2008, 11:01 PM
Excelent, thank you. I'm gonna keep that in mind for a mini project.

gunmn74
January 19, 2008, 07:09 PM
I like mine.

http://i18.tinypic.com/89jd537.jpg

AndyJ
January 19, 2008, 08:43 PM
This one rides behind the seat of my truck. Wouldn't have *any* other long gun back there.

http://www.texasinterceptors.com/images/mini_3.jpg

Magnuumpwr
January 19, 2008, 09:14 PM
Here's a pic of my 194 series.:D

Tarvis
January 22, 2008, 12:41 AM
Hey Andy, tell me about your mini. That barrel looks slick, did you have it done, or did you buy it like that?

Rshooter
January 22, 2008, 01:15 AM
The wife's, and finally someone has said that the accustrut appears to work.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd69/ssgtward/Mini14.jpg[/IMG]

AndyJ
January 22, 2008, 01:29 PM
"Hey Andy, tell me about your mini. That barrel looks slick, did you have it done, or did you buy it like that?"

Tarvis, I traded for the rifle several years ago. Previous owner shot competitively with it. That is a Clark Custom Barrel system and he had a trigger job done on it-- probably sometime in the late '90s.

I added the Bushnell Holo sight and Butler folding stock. I acquired a dozen 20 round LEO mags before the prices went crazy. The gun runs perfectly and shoots much better than my old eyes can see with a variety of milsurp ammo. It has dispatched its' fair share of coyotes, feral dogs, hogs and rattlers. We work on remote ranches all over Texas and the gun goes to work every day.

paintballdude902
January 22, 2008, 06:58 PM
hey guys i dont have a mini-14 ..yet

but i was wondering is there a mini-14 underfolder or top folder like this
http://cheaperthandirt.com/36173-45298-2164.html

theNoid
January 22, 2008, 06:58 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/skinnygun/python2.jpg
22/22mag, that is absolutely AWESOME man. Even the wifey is diggin' this thing. Bravo...bravo indeed.

Noidster

Tarvis
January 24, 2008, 07:23 PM
but i was wondering is there a mini-14 underfolder or top folder like this

That I know of, no. Is it practical, even feasible? Probably not. Why do you want a top/bottom folder anyhow?

paintballdude902
January 24, 2008, 07:26 PM
i hate the side folders

and i really like the top folding stock like on the spas-12

wow i saw someone posted right after i made a thread asking about it

1KPerDay
January 24, 2008, 07:59 PM
Anyone know where I can find one of the M14 (long birdcage) style flash hiders for the mini?
Probably too late in my reply, but I found mine here:

http://www.gunaccessories.com/Flash_Hiders/index.asp

Tarvis
January 24, 2008, 08:44 PM
I subscribed to this thread, thats why the reply was fast ;). If you're planning on having a non-ranch rifle mini and you're planning on not using any sights while its folded and youre going to make this folder yourself, sure I guess. What don't you like about side folders? The way they look, or thier functionality when folded? Must be the way they look, as a top folder would be worse.

Or maybe you're looking for something tacticool, in that case I'd probably build one.

FMJMIKE
January 25, 2008, 08:18 PM
This is my new/used Mini-14 580 series rifle. I got it for $450.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/Mini14a.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/Mini14b.jpg

Tarvis
January 26, 2008, 02:45 PM
Not bad at all. Whats the magnification on the scope?

Vityaz
January 26, 2008, 06:11 PM
Here's mine, broken handguard included.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/StarshinaTac/100_1794.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/StarshinaTac/100_1793.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/StarshinaTac/100_1796.jpg

FMJMIKE
January 26, 2008, 09:18 PM
The scope is a Leupold Vari-X II 3 X 9 X 40. I had to send it back for work. Now as good as new........:D

pbrktrt
January 26, 2008, 09:54 PM
i would like to share my m-30 with you. how do i post pics?

Dave Markowitz
January 27, 2008, 12:29 AM
The easiest way to share pics is to get a free photo hosting account with a site like Photobucket. Upload your pics there. It will automatically generate the code for posting a picture in web forums. It'll look something like {IMG}Full URL of Picture{/IMG}, except that the curly brackets will be replaced with square brackets. You just paste that code into your post and your picture will appear when someone reads it.

Capt. Capsize
January 28, 2008, 11:15 AM
I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't find it. I have an early polished stainless mini that was previouly a police dept. weapon. I also have about 400 rds. of Hirtenberger 5.56 and another 300 rds. of some bulk foreign made or reloaded 5.56 of questionable quality. My question is can 5.56 ammo be safely fired in a Mini-14? Thanks for the reply in advance.

armoredman
January 28, 2008, 11:40 AM
I have always been told the Mini-14 came with a 5.56MM chamber to allow itto fire all ammo. Call Ruger directly, if you want, and ask them - I am a neophyte to Minis.

Smiling Bob
January 28, 2008, 12:02 PM
Here's my 581 Series Mini 30. She was born in June of 2006 and wears a wood stock with extended recoil pad and a Shrewd screw-on muzzle brake.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a45/smilingbob2005/581SeriesMini-30.jpg

Smiling Bob :D

glockman19
January 28, 2008, 01:00 PM
can 5.56 ammo be safely fired in a Mini-14?

YES

Tarvis
January 28, 2008, 03:32 PM
I have an early polished stainless mini that was previouly a police dept. weapon.

The best way to describe your gun would be to give the serises number, which is the first 3 digits of the serial number. For example, I have a stainless series 188 LE trade in :D.

Firepower!
January 28, 2008, 03:37 PM
i am buying my first ruger mini 14 tomorrow. I want the kit to make it 3 burst auto. What do i do?

1KPerDay
January 28, 2008, 05:18 PM
Call your lawyer now... you might as well give him a heads-up.

armoredman
January 28, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yep, going to meet me professionally if you do that. Stay out of prison, stay away from illegally converted full auto/burst fire. If you want an AC-556, go find one for sale, follow all the tangles BATFE has for you to follow, and enjoy. Otherwise, either learn to love semi-auto, or a guy named Bubba.

CSA 357
January 28, 2008, 07:25 PM
I just picked up a 182- stainless gb mini 14 with 2 factory 20s it was a mississippi highway patrol trade in, when did they make the 182 ser? csa

pbrktrt
January 28, 2008, 09:58 PM
csa, you can do a search at Ruger's website for serial numbers & the time they were built.

Firepower!
January 29, 2008, 02:08 AM
Actually I have license to own fully auto, but cant find ac556

NY'er
January 29, 2008, 08:53 AM
Here you go Firepower!~

http://www.elitedealseeker.com/index.cgi?searchword=ac556&category=gunstuff&ageupperlimit=9&function=Search

And since I'll never be able to get one, pleeeease post some pics when you find one!

-NY'er

Dave Markowitz
January 29, 2008, 10:54 AM
IIRC, Firepower is not in the USA.

armoredman
January 29, 2008, 11:24 AM
Have to be outside, as there is no "license to own full auto" in the US. If outside the US, well, good luck and have fun.

1KPerDay
January 29, 2008, 12:58 PM
Here's my 195-series ranch rifle with its little brother

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/6aa31357.jpg

And with its big brother

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/69f556e4.jpg

Firepower!
January 29, 2008, 02:51 PM
Ny'er: they dont export these to PK.

However, I found a manual to make it auto on a different site. Plus I found a local dealer who has kit to make it a trio burst. That would be fun!

Cyclimus
January 30, 2008, 06:32 PM
Just joined the club last weekend... plan on doing my initiaion by fire on Saturday. What does everyone consider the primary upgrades for a typical Mini-14? I'm thinking front sight and barrel shroud minimally as I prefer Garand style sights.

benEzra
January 30, 2008, 07:54 PM
I'd appreciate recommendations for the best folding stock available for the Mini-14. Thanks.
The Butler Creek folder, hands-down.

Firepower!
January 31, 2008, 09:18 AM
Now that I have my mini 14, I want to know what accessories can go on it and what about the scope/mounts?

armoredman
January 31, 2008, 11:04 AM
Get the Accu-Strut,and an adjustable gas block. Those are the two things I have been told over and over again make the most differance in accuracy...and on my to-do list. Ruger SHOULD have included scope mounts, but if not, I happen to have a set of Ruger 1 inch blued factory rings laing about I am not using. CDNNinvestments carries a small rail that clamps on the scope mounts. There is also a upper handguard replacement that has a Picatinny rail on it.

rockman42
January 31, 2008, 11:22 AM
I posted these pics over at perfectunion also....I also agree the accustrut is one of the best and cheapest accuracy upgrades for the Mini (along with a trigger job and stock bedding)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/rockman42/100_2206.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/rockman42/100_2220.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/rockman42/100_2217.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/rockman42/100_2204.jpg

TIMC
January 31, 2008, 01:17 PM
Question: how do you tell what series a mini is?

By the first three digits of the serial number, in the format "xxx-".

Good info, Thanks!

I always wondered when mine was made. I have had it for many-many years and don't even remember where I bought it or what I paid for it. Mine is a 181series made 1977-1980.

Tarvis
February 1, 2008, 10:30 AM
Rockman42, that is a sick mini.....


No serisously, that is pretty badass ;). Did you glassbed yourself? If not, how much was the charge? I been thinkin about bedding my mini but haven't been able to justify a bunch of mods to it yet; I'm sure if I get started I'll end up with $500 into it.

Also, whatcha got on your muzzle? Supressor?

sam_katz
February 2, 2008, 01:47 AM
Hey i'm trying to relieve myself of my Ruger Mini 14 equipped in original wood stock, blued, Simmons scope, 5-30 round mags (2 poly/3 blued steel), also with a Muzzelite Bullpup stock (installed but not shot & switched back to wood stock) $550 if interested say so...

Tarvis
February 2, 2008, 02:37 AM
what series and how firm are you on your price?

Dave Markowitz
February 2, 2008, 10:34 AM
Please put any "For Sale" posts in the "Buy, Sell and Trade Rifles and Shotguns" forum. You'll get more views of your post there.

carlson1
February 6, 2008, 08:51 PM
Didn't want this thread to die.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/carlson1/mini14wood-2.jpg

CSA 357
February 6, 2008, 09:11 PM
How Much Are The Factoryfolding Stocks Going For Now? Reason I Ask I Know Where I Can Get One, But From What I Can Tell I Dont Like It,looks Good! Feals Not So Good To Me Anyway, Csa

NY'er
February 6, 2008, 10:41 PM
Take a look at this~ an AR-style 6 position FOLDING stock for Minis!

http://www.combathunting.com/RUGER-Ruger_Mini_14_30_Strikeforce_Stock_Package.html

This may just put some envy in our EBR friends! :neener:

And it's only $100!!!

armoredman
February 6, 2008, 10:44 PM
I would love a folding stock for mine someday, finances say no for now. Need more mags first, anyway.

Tarvis
February 7, 2008, 01:21 AM
I think the butler creek folder is going for like 100, mebbe 150. That's the most I would pay for a folder. NY'er posted a link to a pretty cool stock, but for my application I try and stay away from the EBR look; not to keep people from going "look at his assault rifle," more to keep me from spending too much on tacticool stuff and because it really doesn't need it as far as I'm concerned.

For what its worth: I think folders are cool and all, but unless you need to put it in a tight spot they just make the mini a big HEAVY pistol when folded.

Dave Markowitz
April 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
We've had several recent posts in the Rifle forum regarding Mini-14s, so I thought it would be a good time to bump the Ruger Mini-14 Club back to the top for a bit.

New members welcome. :)

Treo
April 10, 2008, 12:18 PM
I just picked mine up used (add in the Thrifty Nickle) for 475.00$ W/ 20 round mag and 5 boxes of ammunition.

When I got it home and broke it down it became very evident that it had been a safe queen, the trigger assembly still had packing grease on it. and I could still feel burrs on it from the machine shop.

It's a wood stock 187 series serial number and the only defect I saw on it was right in the middle of the barrel they got some chip wrap on it that didn't come out W/ the finish turn.

I've been seeing them go for 1000.00$ in the paper here so I think I got a good deal

As for the AR vs. MINI thing I shot M-16s (A-1 & A-2s) in the Army & they just never really impressed me. Now that I'm out the last thing I want is to show up at the range W/ an "Assault Rifle" I like being the guy W/ the vanilla gun. That & the fact that M-16s are a bear to clean

Muzzy_B
April 10, 2008, 03:57 PM
I guess I'm new to the mini 14 club too. I had one fall into my lap a few weeks ago. I wasn't looking for one, but a friend had a 181 series collecting dust in his closet and was looking for a pistol for CCW. He asked if I would ever consider trading one of my pistols for his mini. It just so happened that I had a Wilson ADP that I no longer carried and I offered that for trade. He liked the size, caliber, and night sights and offered me the mini, a bipod stand (which has since been removed), a scope (which I don't like due to the b- square mount- so it was also removed), a 20 round magazine, 3 30 round magazines, and about 200 rounds of ammo. We called it an even swap. Now instead of collecting dust in his closet, it's collecting dust in my safe. I haven't shot it yet, nor do I know too much about the particular weapon - other than what I've read on the web since the transaction- so I don't know who got the better of the deal. I'll take a pic and post it next time it comes out of the safe.

RancidSumo
April 10, 2008, 09:28 PM
Thought here would be a good place to ask, which is more accurate, the Mini-14 (probably the target one) or the Ar-15

DEAC25
April 10, 2008, 10:13 PM
Here is my Mini 14 in 6.8spc, and a friend.http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z174/carrlawnc/ruger%20mini%20and%20friends/insurancepics008.jpg

Treo
April 10, 2008, 11:41 PM
Quote: Thought here would be a good place to ask, which is more accurate, the Mini-14 (probably the target one) or the Ar-15"

Can't say I can tell you that my score W/ my M-16 improved tremendously after I got my own Mini (the first one) and practiced W/ it

poziovahim
April 11, 2008, 12:49 AM
Hi All,
New here today and after reading all the posts, I'm buying a new Mini 14 in Santa Fe tomorrow :)
Glad to be here!
Dan

sojournerhome
June 25, 2008, 05:24 PM
I just bought a Mini 14 185 series. My ten year old loves. Now, claims it as his "own".
Sometimes, it fails to feed. And sometimes it feeds 2. I am using a Ruger factory 20 rounder. Is that a gas block issue or a good cleaning?

dagger dog
June 25, 2008, 05:47 PM
:(When I'm feeling down and blue, I grab my Kmini, and a fifty cal. ammo box, full of that good ole junk steelcased, dirty powder, gooey lacquer sealed, berdan primed, WOLF ammo and a couple of overpriced,20 factory mags,and head to the range, put on the muffs and don't quit yanking on the trigger 'till the blues goes away, the barrels smokin' and a big ear to ear grin takes its' place.

Thank you kindly Mr. Bill Ruger thank you:D

benEzra
June 25, 2008, 06:48 PM
Thought here would be a good place to ask, which is more accurate, the Mini-14 (probably the target one) or the Ar-15
AR-15. An out-of-the-box AR-15 shooting match ammunition will shoot better than any mini except the high-end target model. High-end AR's are more accurate than most bolt-actions.

Rock River Arms guarantees that most of their rifles will shoot 1.5 MOA and their precision rifles will shoot 0.75 MOA, out of the box, with match ammunition. I'm sure AR's from most manufacturers will do similarly well.

FMJMIKE
June 25, 2008, 11:30 PM
My NRA Special Edition Mini-14......:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/NRA1.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/Mini14NRA.jpg

1KPerDay
June 26, 2008, 02:25 PM
When I'm feeling down and blue, I grab my Kmini, and a fifty cal. ammo box, full of that good ole junk steelcased, dirty powder, gooey lacquer sealed, berdan primed, WOLF ammo and a couple of overpriced,20 factory mags,and head to the range, put on the muffs and don't quit yanking on the trigger 'till the blues goes away, the barrels smokin' and a big ear to ear grin takes its' place.

Thank you kindly Mr. Bill Ruger thank you
Very well put. :cool:

Dollar An Hour
June 26, 2008, 11:02 PM
The short-barrel NRA model is on my short list. I think it looks like a lot of fun! :)

Ignition Override
June 27, 2008, 04:11 AM
You guys' guns are beautiful.

1) How many states had LEOs who were issued a Mini 14 - just a few?

2) Were any states' LEOs issued the Mini 30, other than those at Pelican State Prison in CA?

Second topic:
In case it has not been noticed by many, "GunBroker.com" has four full pages of Mini 14s for sale, many apparently unfired, or very little.
What is going on with so many 14s listed there? Is it the increasing prices for .223 ammo, being more than increases for 7.62 x39, or just the problems with the economy?

Spyvie
June 27, 2008, 04:42 AM
In case it has not been noticed by many, "GunBroker.com" has four full pages of Mini 14s for sale, many apparently unfired, or very little.
What is going on with so many 14s listed there? Is it the increasing prices for .223 ammo, being more than increases for 7.62 x39, or just the problems with the economy?

I think it's cause the ARs are so hot right now, that's the only 5.56/.223 people want. Also, Minis have a somewhat deserved reputation for poor accuracy. But the new Mini 14s, will give an AR a run for it's money. I have a new 580 NRA Mini 14 and a 16 RRA AR, both are about equal in accuracy... even with a hot barrel.

The Mini is definitely heavier than a 16" AR, but then again Rugers are sturdy gerties. As a bonus, the Mini 14 doesn't look quite as evil.

borntwice
June 27, 2008, 05:54 AM
I'm thinking of either a Mini-14, or an AR-15. I am leaning toward the Mini-14, due to its slightly lower cost, as I am on a budget.

borntwice
June 27, 2008, 05:55 AM
FMJMIKE, what kind of stock is on that rifle of yours?

paintballdude902
June 27, 2008, 06:53 PM
anyone had their barrel cut down to like 16.5?

i wanna get one of the new ones with a bit heavier barrel from wally world which is like 605 then i was debating cutting it down to 16.5 and having my gs tim recorwn it and put new iron sights on it

any opinions?

would it be better to buy the nra edition one?

borntwice i think the nra ones come with a hogue from the factory

FMJMIKE
June 28, 2008, 11:37 PM
FMJMIKE, what kind of stock is on that rifle of yours?
The NRA Special Edition Mini-14 comes with a Hogue stock with a NRA medallion under the heel.;)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/NRA2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/NRA3.jpg

4v50 Gary
June 29, 2008, 12:47 AM
I've a blued GB with folding stock. But it's in Nevada with all my other EBRs. :(

bestseller92
July 26, 2008, 11:15 PM
I do like my Mini.

'Course, I liked it better when ammo was $4.50 a box. Sigh.

taprackbang
July 27, 2008, 12:33 AM
Good shot of the coyote Beneli Shooter!

Homeland Security is a nation of Riflemen

Ignition Override
July 27, 2008, 04:35 AM
My used 14 was purchased back in January-wood and blued.

What does the GB designation stand for? Can not find it in Wikipedia or aywhere else.
Just wish I had bought a bit more .223 last winter. The Wolf prices have jumped a bit while Wolf x39 have only had tiny increases.

Dave Markowitz
July 27, 2008, 12:52 PM
GB = Government Barrel.

Thanks for resurrecting the thread.

Unfortunately, I decided to swap off my stainless GB. It did not meet my reliability requirements, even with factory magazines. I still have my blued Mini-14 which is as reliable like a rock.

1858
July 28, 2008, 03:36 AM
Here's mine ...

Hogue Overmolded stock
Leupold Vari-X II 6.5 - 18x AO (nowhere else to put it)
Accuracy Systems adjustable gas block
Accuracy Systems magazine release

http://firearms.hawthorn-engineering.com/rifles/mini14/mini14.jpg

:)

nefarmboy
November 16, 2008, 10:45 PM
I just ordered a Mini14 and a Mini30 ranch/SS. Took advantage of Ruger's sale on 20rnd mags and got 2. Ordered a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9X40 scope today ($170 on eBay). Also ordered a couple of Wolff hammer springs (1 for each). I like the ASI tuneable gas block. How hard was it to install? What do you think of the longer mag release?

1858
November 17, 2008, 03:49 AM
The AS adjustable gas block is very easy to install and the AS extended mag release (not as easy to install) is a good upgrade since it provides more leverage. I want to upgrade the trigger next. With 77 grain SMK HPBT bullets and 23.5 grains of RE-15 powder I shot a five-shot 1" group at 50 yards today. With a better trigger I'm sure I could do better than that.

:)

DiN_BLiX
November 17, 2008, 02:33 PM
"urban tiger"

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc63/din_blix/100_2507.jpg

esq_stu
November 17, 2008, 02:46 PM
Mine's a project gun. I'll take photos when it's finished, hopefully by the end of the year. A stainless 186 series, I'm cutting it to 16" threading it, adding a GI flash hider, XS front sight, and Ultimak mount. If it does 3 m.o.a. I'll be happy.

Although I know my AR will shoot rings around it, I like the Mini. Now if only Ruger would make last week's 20 rd magazine sale price gun permanent.

Ratshooter
November 17, 2008, 07:05 PM
I have a 2007 580 series with the skinny barrel. I am going to buy a new 580 with the heavier barrel in the next day or so.

I love shooting this rifle. Its the most fun I've had in a while. Mine shoots a lot better than I expected also. I pick up ARs at every gunshow. They just don't "Do It" for me.

Ala Dan
November 17, 2008, 07:38 PM
Ruger "Mini-14" 196 series

CSA 357
November 17, 2008, 08:12 PM
gb ss i need factory mags

TurboJeff
December 19, 2008, 09:56 AM
I ordered an NRA edition Mini-14 as a Christmas present to myself. I have owned a Colt SP1 AR-15 for many years, so I decided on the Mini-14 instead of another AR-15 right now.

I also ordered a S&W M29 3" .44 magnum "Bounty Hunter".

The Mini-14 should arrive at my FFL on Monday, 12/22/08. Just in time for Christmas :D

boxcarbilly
January 16, 2009, 09:10 PM
What models will the bullpup stock fit on?

FMJMIKE
January 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
Two new Minis......:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/Mini14B.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/Mini14SSA.jpg

DAdams
January 16, 2009, 10:59 PM
Picked this up in March of 08.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/P1010013.jpg

Specter Gear Sling with Magazine Pouch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/P1010014.jpg

Loggerlee
January 16, 2009, 11:25 PM
Anyone else notice the rifle shoots more accurately when you just load one round in the chamber and shoot it,no magazine?
I'm wondering if it's just me...

browningguy
January 17, 2009, 01:14 AM
Don't have a picture of it alone, but it's third from the top. Haven't done a thing to it but mount a scope and run some ammo through it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/rifles.jpg

ZombiesAhead
July 11, 2009, 09:32 PM
Here's my new (to me) 189 series Mini 30 from the early 1990's. I think this is a 92 or 93 and is a .311" barrel. This is my favorite rifle over my AK/AR/etc/etc - it just looks great and is easy to shoot well. The target here is ~65 yards with Wolf steel 7.62x39, irons, and my first day with the gun. Since then I've also added an M1907 sling that should really help it.

Unfortunately, only some Wolf ammunition works - some batches' primers get dented by the pin but the fail to fire.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7836/photo0048g.th.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/photo0048g.jpg/)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7965/photo0049.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/photo0049.jpg/)

jordan1948
July 11, 2009, 11:44 PM
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/jordan1948/mini14.jpg
Series 181 and as far as I can tell it was made in '77. Will the accustrut work on mine?

jordan1948
August 18, 2009, 03:56 PM
Accu Strut came in yesterday and.........
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/jordan1948/Mini141.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/jordan1948/Mini142.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/jordan1948/Mini143.jpg
I think it gives the Mini that traditional M14 look. Hopin to make it to the range soon to test it out. Previous "groupings" looked like I was patterning a shotgun so hopefully this will eliminate that.

jordan1948
August 21, 2009, 12:19 AM
I guess no one else really posts in this thread anymore but in any case. Has anyone noticed that ruger now has 30rd mags for the Mini 14s? http://shopruger.com/Magazines/products/98/ $50 bucks is a lil steap though but the 20s are cheaper than CTDs prices.

gunnutery
September 30, 2009, 04:52 PM
106363106364

My Mini 14 on a budget. The light and sling I got from my brother in law, the rail was $10, the barrel cover was $12, the ring holding the light was from another scope that wasn't in use. The nylon straps were from an old sling that I fashioned to accept the new sling.

Dave Markowitz
September 30, 2009, 04:55 PM
Nice example of adapting and improvising there.

frankiestoys
September 30, 2009, 05:01 PM
Heres mine:d
580 SERIES,SS,Trigger job, Nikon prostaff scope,home made accu-strut

stinger 327
September 30, 2009, 06:20 PM
I have a Ranch Mini-14 bought it brand new back in 2004 it has a laminated stock cost me $400 brand new with scope. I took off scope because I couldn't hit the target or sight it in. It couldn't even get onto the paper at 100 yards. After a few shots it heated up then shot all over the place.
Now using the peep sight that it came with I can put the rounds on the paper and closer to the bulls-eye but still it is very erratic. Is it because of the heat build up in the barrel? Is this a common problem on all Mini-14's or just on Ranch models? :confused:

Redneck with a 40
September 30, 2009, 10:02 PM
Here's mine, a 580 series, blue/wood, bought in June of '09. I've got the heavier barrel, which is nice. I put a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 scope on it, which is awesome. I bought (4) 20 round Ruger mag's from Midway, the rifle came with one. This thing is a blast to shoot, I really enjoy it. I bought all the stuff to start handloading right away and got started with some 55 grain load's, which shoot 2.5" at 100 yards pretty consistently. I most recently put together some 69 gr Nosler HPBT's with H-4895 and got 1.5" at 100 yards, 10 shots, which is awesome for a mini.:D

Here's a pic:

GunTech
October 1, 2009, 01:11 AM
My new 580 series Mini-14 tactical, shown with its big brother. Just came home today.

http://guntech.com/m14/mini-maxi.jpg

trane fan
October 1, 2009, 09:10 PM
Greetings. I picked up this 580 series Tactical at the C&E Gun Show in Hickory, NC this past Saturday. I took it to the range this morning and ran the target out to 25 yards (max distance at the indoor range). Below you will find a pic of my Mini-14 and the results (btw the ammo was 55 gr. Remington UMC).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/tranefan/100_0532.jpg

jeepguy
October 2, 2009, 07:37 PM
stinger 327 get the accu-strut it will help with the stringing from the heat build up & i love seeing all these minis

stinger 327
October 3, 2009, 04:22 AM
Greetings. I picked up this 580 series Tactical at the C&E Gun Show in Hickory, NC this past Saturday. I took it to the range this morning and ran the target out to 25 yards (max distance at the indoor range). Below you will find a pic of my Mini-14 and the results (btw the ammo was 55 gr. Remington UMC).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/tranefan/100_0532.jpg
How much did this one cost?

stinger 327
October 3, 2009, 04:41 AM
I paid $400 for a Mini-14 .223 in 2004 with a laminated stock and scope. Would it be cheaper to just buy a new one at 895 instead of sending it to a gunsmith?:uhoh:

PzGren
October 3, 2009, 04:53 AM
182 series

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/Mini14.jpg

McBuck
January 1, 2010, 01:46 PM
I love this stuff !

1KPerDay
January 1, 2010, 05:03 PM
Just got a used accu-strut for my 196 series

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/th_IMG_3880.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/IMG_3880.jpg)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/th_IMG_3881.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/IMG_3881.jpg)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/th_IMG_3882.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/IMG_3882.jpg)

fyrfytr
January 1, 2010, 05:43 PM
I have one too. 184 series, I've had it about a year now. Fun shooter, but I wish I was a better shot. Does the Accu Strut make much of a difference?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/fyrfytr27/026.jpg

db_tanker
January 1, 2010, 08:52 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t187/db_tanker/gun_pix/DSCN0070-Copy.jpg


183 series stainless. had my tremendously talented father in law take a spare Mini-14 stock and do his work to it. he has done a model 94 and a model 43 winchester as well...all three look beautiful. I haven't done any other mods to this rifle. I really think I don't want to do anything other than replace the rear sight with either an Accuracy Systems M1A style or the XS sight. Also that replacement adjustable gas block looks REALLY nice...but mebbe for later. :)

1KPerDay
January 1, 2010, 11:27 PM
Does the Accu Strut make much of a difference?
dunno yet, I just got it. Some folks swear by them though. Or their homemade versions.

stinger 327
January 2, 2010, 03:21 AM
If you add a flash suppressor/brake muzzel to barrel of Mini-14 will this change sight adjustment vs. having it without?:confused:

X - Man
January 2, 2010, 01:18 PM
stinger 327; You should add a flash hider to your Mini, because it helps with its accuracy. The extra weight at the end of the barrel helps to dampen a bit of the barrel harmonics.

Yes, adding a strut to the barrel of a Mini will also help with its accuracy. There are several to choose from, and other similar mods to achieve the same result.

db tanker; Your S/S Mini is similar to my S/S Ranch. Your stock looks nice.

Check out the postings at "The 2010 THR Freeza-Plooza Match". It will give you an idea on what a Mini-14 can do. And, then post your targets.

There are a number of improvements that can be applied to a Mini to make it shoot well. Most are fairly easy and can be done by most enthusiasts.

stinger 327
January 3, 2010, 12:39 AM
I wish I could find a muzzle brake for my Tikka 3 Lite 30.06.

stinger 327
January 3, 2010, 12:41 AM
I do notice that my peep site is different than all the pics I see of the Mini-14's here. Mine is from 1998 and the site flips up and down. There are two screws for elevation with white lines.

jeff-10
January 3, 2010, 01:50 AM
Old school Mini-14 with a ghost gray stock. Sorry it was taken with a cell phone and I hardly ever use it.

haldir
January 3, 2010, 02:46 AM
Hey guys,

I took the gas block off of my Mini-14, and put it back on, is this bad?

stinger 327
January 3, 2010, 08:08 AM
:eek::uhoh::what::confused:

McBuck
January 3, 2010, 07:33 PM
haldir,
If you completely removed the gas block from your Mini, then it can affect your accuracy IF you did not re-install it properly. Check the spacing from sided to side to insure you have it as evenas possible. You also should re-torque the four screws. You can go to perfectunion.com and get much better information and answers about your gas block. Thes guys know Minis.

http://perfectunion.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=86

Dave Markowitz
January 3, 2010, 08:07 PM
Good to see this thread revived.

stinger 327
January 4, 2010, 08:29 PM
I cleaned my gas chamber but sent M-14 back to factory to correct another problem and they replaced everything on rifle.

MatthewVanitas
January 19, 2010, 01:57 AM
Y'know, back in 1998 when I was brand-new to guns I almost bought a Ruger Mini-14. But when I started looking at those early-days gun forums I found the Mini-14 had a bad rep for accuracy, and ended up getting a Norinco SKS instead (not that those are tackdrivers... :uhoh:).

Now, years and many guns later, I'm considering moving into DC for a year or two after I return from a contract job in Afghanistan later this year. Aside from a mandatory class, $40-60 per gun registration fee, etc., DC also has a CA-style "one feature only" assault weapons ban. Suddenly the Mini-14 is looking pretty pleasing again. Better construction than the SKS, handier than the M1 or M1A, and more powerful than the M1 Carbine.

The accuracy is greatly improved on the recent Ranch Rifles, yes? Reliability still good on the current issue? Ruger 10rd mags run well? If so, I'm tempted to get the Stainless Ranch, swap out a nice wooden stock, and add an Ultimak upper handguard for a nice red-dot sight or similar.

Setting aside the "don't move to DC" issue, any other suggestions, or does the above Mini tweaking sound like a go? Accu-Strut does say that some rifles that already shoot well don't really benefit from the strut, so if I get a Mini I should probably wring it out first before adding another 8oz. Are there any other common tweaks (I can't add a flash-suppressor) that improve reliability or usable accuracy?

stinger 327
January 19, 2010, 02:00 AM
Add a muzzle brake/flash suppressor. Mini-14 go for $800 and up. More than 800 for ranch model. You plan on puttin on scope or using standard peep site?

MatthewVanitas
January 19, 2010, 04:41 PM
Add a muzzle brake/flash suppressor. Mini-14 go for $800 and up. More than 800 for ranch model. You plan on puttin on scope or using standard peep site?

I can't have a flash-suppressor if I move to DC. Not so thrilled about a muzzle-brake since I understand those tend to increase muzzle blast.

Looking to add an Ultimak railed handguard and some kind of sight, maybe an Insight MRDS, which as I understand it just landed a big gov't contract:

http://www.policemag.com/_Images/news/070909-InsightTech-MRDSonShotgun-2.jpg


So, if a Mini-14 is my best option, and just imagining that "cost is not an issue", would the dream DC-legal Mini-14 be something like:


Stainless Ranch Rifle
Nice stock (I actually prefer wood, and in DC less-tactical-looking might be good)
Adjustable gas block (best brand?)
Ultimak railed forend
Good red-dot sight (Insight?)
10rd mages (OEM the best?)


Anything else? On even a 2009 Ranch Rifle, is it suggested to cut the barrel back to 16.25" to reduce barrel wriggle?

Is there any gunsmith specialising in the Mini-14 who has a good "trick it out" package for reliability/accuracy? Trigger job?

stinger 327
January 20, 2010, 03:19 AM
What is a accu-strut?
What caliber did they use in Vietnam war? .55 grain .223? or 5.56 mm?
The factory changed everything in my gun except for the barrel. These old Mini-14's had a reputation for shooting everywhere not accurate or consistant like the new ones.

X - Man
January 20, 2010, 09:50 PM
stinger 327; An Accu-strut is a device which mounts onto the barrel of a Mini which aids in the overall performance and accuracy of the Mini. It works by providing additional stiffness to the barrel, braces the gas block, and adds weight to the barrel aiding in the dampening of unwanted harmonics.

5.56 is military ammo.

Cost analysis to upgrade a Mini-14; cost of rifle (1993) $440, parts $237, cyro-treat receiver group-barrel $75, total cost $752. True, no counting the time and effort put into the project. Actual target results are posted in the THR 2010 Frezza-Palooza Match contest.

This "old" Mini shoots well.

stinger 327
January 20, 2010, 11:04 PM
Do you have a picture of this acc-strut?
$752:barf::what:
I could buy a new Mini-14 for $100 more.
If I did that I would probably this time buy the 7.62 x 39 model as when I bought this Mini-14 .223 Rem. back in 1998 they didn't offer the Mini-14 in 7.62 x 39.:banghead: Also they didn't sell the Mini-14 in 5.56:cuss:
My old Mini-14 even has a different type of peep sight than the newer ones in that the rear sight looks to be easier to adjust on the new ones.:scrutiny:

1KPerDay
January 21, 2010, 01:42 AM
Do you have a picture of this acc-strut?
see post #159 above

also:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/IMG_4020.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/IMG_4021.jpg

stinger 327
January 21, 2010, 05:04 AM
It's my understanding that the new Ruger Mini-14's don't have that accuracy problem like the old ones did that shot erratically especially after the barrel got hot.

stinger 327
January 21, 2010, 05:08 AM
1KPerday I saw that item in #159 and it kind of defeats the purpose of this mini carbine and looks strange. It adds more stuff to the rifle which was one of the reasons I bought one of these because it was very handy size good handling rifle and not bulky.

yotesmoker
January 21, 2010, 09:06 AM
Is there any way to install an adjustable gas block with an accustrut installed?

Fetus
January 21, 2010, 09:36 AM
1kperday --- those mountians are great--- is that utah ??

kanook
January 21, 2010, 11:04 AM
back in 1998 they didn't offer the Mini-14 in 7.62 x 39.It has been around since 1986 but it's called a Mini 30. So in a sense you are correct they still don't offer a Mini 14 in that caliber only the Mini 30 is

greyeyezz
January 21, 2010, 12:05 PM
in

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/greyeyezz/P1010851.jpg

1KPerDay
January 21, 2010, 12:56 PM
1kperday --- those mountians are great--- is that utah ??
Aye, it is.

1KPerDay
January 21, 2010, 12:57 PM
1KPerday I saw that item in #159 and it kind of defeats the purpose of this mini carbine and looks strange. It adds more stuff to the rifle which was one of the reasons I bought one of these because it was very handy size good handling rifle and not bulky.
kay...

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 01:11 AM
It has been around since 1986 but it's called a Mini 30. So in a sense you are correct they still don't offer a Mini 14 in that caliber only the Mini 30 is
Kanook, I thought they didn't have that Mini-30 until recently or so I found out. Is there any difference between these two rifles Mini-14 and Mini-30 other than caliber? Perhaps they feel the same and handle alike other than recoil?

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 01:12 AM
kay...
1Kperday...But thank you for the info.

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 01:15 AM
stinger 327; An Accu-strut is a device which mounts onto the barrel of a Mini which aids in the overall performance and accuracy of the Mini. It works by providing additional stiffness to the barrel, braces the gas block, and adds weight to the barrel aiding in the dampening of unwanted harmonics.

5.56 is military ammo.

Cost analysis to upgrade a Mini-14; cost of rifle (1993) $440, parts $237, cyro-treat receiver group-barrel $75, total cost $752. True, no counting the time and effort put into the project. Actual target results are posted in the THR 2010 Frezza-Palooza Match contest.

This "old" Mini shoots well.
What Is the difference between 5.56 and .223 Rem? Does one hit harder than the other or travel further in range?
To get a 5.56 wouldn't one have to get one of those AR-15 type of rifles?

M1key
January 22, 2010, 01:35 AM
Wiki:

While the external case dimensions are very similar, the .223 Remington and 5.56x45mm differ in both maximum pressure and chamber shape. The maximum and mean pressures for some varieties of the 5.56 mm (different cartridge designations have different standards) exceed the SAAMI maximums for the .223 Remington, and the methods for measuring pressures differ between NATO and SAAMI.[5] The 5.56 mm chamber specification has also changed over time since its adoption, as the current military loading (NATO SS-109 or US M855) uses longer, heavier bullets than the original loading did. This has resulted in a lengthening of the throat in the 5.56 mm chamber. Thus, while .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, firing 5.56 mm ammunition in a .223 Remington chamber may produce pressures in excess of even the 5.56 mm specifications due to the shorter throat.

You should be able to safely shoot either in your Mini-14. If you still aren't sure call Ruger and ask them.

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 01:42 AM
wiki:

While the external case dimensions are very similar, the .223 remington and 5.56x45mm differ in both maximum pressure and chamber shape. The maximum and mean pressures for some varieties of the 5.56 mm (different cartridge designations have different standards) exceed the saami maximums for the .223 remington, and the methods for measuring pressures differ between nato and saami.[5] the 5.56 mm chamber specification has also changed over time since its adoption, as the current military loading (nato ss-109 or us m855) uses longer, heavier bullets than the original loading did. This has resulted in a lengthening of the throat in the 5.56 mm chamber. Thus, while .223 remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, firing 5.56 mm ammunition in a .223 remington chamber may produce pressures in excess of even the 5.56 mm specifications due to the shorter throat.

You should be able to safely shoot either in your mini-14. If you still aren't sure call ruger and ask them.
what are the us troops using in afghan now? What did they use in vietnam?

M1key
January 22, 2010, 02:04 AM
5.56 Nato 55gr fmj (M193) in Viet Nam

5.56 Nato 62gr steel core (M855) in Afghanistan

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 02:51 AM
5.56 Nato 55gr fmj (M193) in Viet Nam

5.56 Nato 62gr steel core (M855) in Afghanistan
So .223 Rem. also comes in those weights what velocities are the .223 and 5.56 traveling at? It sounds to me that the 5.56 is more deadlier of these two calibers?

greyeyezz
January 22, 2010, 11:17 AM
So .223 Rem. also comes in those weights what velocities are the .223 and 5.56 traveling at? It sounds to me that the 5.56 is more deadlier of these two calibers?

http://ammo.ar15.com/ammo/

deanodog
January 22, 2010, 11:31 AM
My mini 14 along with a 10/22.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/deanodog/black%20powder/000_0772.jpg

kanook
January 22, 2010, 11:37 AM
Kanook, I thought they didn't have that Mini-30 until recently or so I found out. Is there any difference between these two rifles Mini-14 and Mini-30 other than caliber? Perhaps they feel the same and handle alike other than recoil?More of the parts are the same than not. They look the same but if you get out a micrometer you can see the differences.

The Mini 14 is available in .222, .223, 5.56, 6.8SPC

The Mini 30 is 7.62x39

I could be wrong on the 5.56 marking but it does interchange in the AC5.56

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 05:22 PM
More of the parts are the same than not. They look the same but if you get out a micrometer you can see the differences.

The Mini 14 is available in .222, .223, 5.56, 6.8SPC

The Mini 30 is 7.62x39

I could be wrong on the 5.56 marking but it does interchange in the AC5.56
I was told not to shoot 5.56 through the Mini-14 even though I did put a few rounds through in error like maybe 5 shots or so.
Perhaps if I get another rifle the Mini 30 would be better of the two since it would be a harder hitting round. (124 grains at 2,300 fps vs. .55 grain at 3,000 fps.
I have seen those varmint loads 40 something grains at 3,600 fps in .223.)
Already have a 10/22. Between all of these rifles they all feel and handle good.

6.8SPC:confused: this gets kinda confusing here I thought it was just .223 Remington and now 5.56 now it appears there is different grades in each caliber? I'll have to read that AR-15 website above there seems to be more numbers and sizes that meets the eye. I always thought it was 7.62 x 39 vs. .223 but apparently there are variations of the .223.:confused:

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 05:27 PM
http://ammo.ar15.com/ammo/
Wow! Thanks for the info, lots of it. Looks like the old argument back in the 80's 9mm vs. .45.

1KPerDay
January 22, 2010, 05:28 PM
I was told not to shoot 5.56 through the Mini-14
By whom? Not by ruger...

stinger 327
January 22, 2010, 05:54 PM
By whom? Not by ruger...
Gunsmith

kanook
January 22, 2010, 06:08 PM
Ask your gunsmith to read the cover of one of the manuals. Or the second page says the same thing.

LeontheProfessional
January 22, 2010, 06:13 PM
Only the target models are 223 only.

kanook
January 22, 2010, 07:00 PM
Fine, throw that into the loop :)

MatthewVanitas
January 23, 2010, 01:50 AM
In keeping with my "DC-legal assault-ish rifle" theme, I'm starting to think that a Mini-6.8 might be cool. Mag capacity isn't an issue (DC is limited to 10rds), and theoretically a 6.8 is a better defensive cartridge, and capable of basic hunting if I get into that.

Plus supposedly the 6.8 barrels are sturdier and more accurate than most of the .223 incarnations.

If I'm just keeping it as a defensive rifle, and doing some basic practice with it without blazing through tons of ammo, the 6.8 seems a pretty workable option. Less cheap plinking fodder, but given it's increasing popularity and the eventual calming-down of the ammo market, maybe some more affordable 6.8 may become available.

stinger 327
January 23, 2010, 04:09 AM
In keeping with my "DC-legal assault-ish rifle" theme, I'm starting to think that a Mini-6.8 might be cool. Mag capacity isn't an issue (DC is limited to 10rds), and theoretically a 6.8 is a better defensive cartridge, and capable of basic hunting if I get into that.

Plus supposedly the 6.8 barrels are sturdier and more accurate than most of the .223 incarnations.

If I'm just keeping it as a defensive rifle, and doing some basic practice with it without blazing through tons of ammo, the 6.8 seems a pretty workable option. Less cheap plinking fodder, but given it's increasing popularity and the eventual calming-down of the ammo market, maybe some more affordable 6.8 may become available.
I'll check that out myself.

Jeff23
February 10, 2010, 02:26 PM
Greetings Mini-14 Club--

How's $499 as a price for a blue / wood .223 mini in new-looking condition?

Thanks, Jeff

1KPerDay
February 10, 2010, 02:53 PM
what are the first three numbers in the serial?

stinger 327
February 10, 2010, 03:31 PM
MatthewVanitas:

Well how about the Mini-30? That's 7.62 a much harder hitting round and it looks exactly like a Mini-14. It makes me wonder if these are very identical in function other than they are two different calibers?:D

Jeff23
February 10, 2010, 03:33 PM
The first three numbers are 180. And I should add, I am amazed the store clerk was there when I called--there's a full on blizzard going on today.

Jeff23
February 10, 2010, 08:55 PM
I'm guessing, after reading this thread, that 180 indicates an older rifle--I'm not looking for super accuracy--more for social work. I would want to mount some kind of sights that are kind to old eyes--I use bifocal reading glasses, but would not want to hamper fairly quick target acquisition. Am I asking too much? Recommendations appreciatd.

Thanks,

Jeff

stinger 327
February 10, 2010, 09:01 PM
Today, 04:55 PM #211
Jeff23
I GOT AN OLD ONE FROM 1998 CANNOT GET IT TO GROUP. I THINK BARREL GETS TOO HOT. I SENT IT BACK TO RUGER AND THEY REPLACED EVERYTHING ON IT EXCEPT THE BARREL. I HAVE YET HAD A CHANCE TO GROUP IT OR GET IT DOWN TO THE RANGE.

kenno
February 14, 2010, 02:29 AM
I need a gas block (upper half) for a Series 183 Mini
PM with details

kenno
February 14, 2010, 02:34 AM
Series 187
16" barrel w/Choate MB
Trigger by Williams
BC folder
Bedded action
floated gas block
GG&G picatiny scope base
Bushnell Trophy MP sight
CTD Kung-Fu Grip and rail
1.5MOA 3 shot group w/cheapo ammo
February 10, 2010 08:

LeontheProfessional
February 15, 2010, 10:33 PM
Mini 14 580 with Hogue OD stock and Choate hand guard.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz360/lukedrylie/Gun%20Stuff/100_0240.jpg

Jeff23
March 10, 2010, 11:02 AM
Hi All--

I thought I should report back here that I made a purchase! I belong to a local gun-rights group, and my little activist commitment is to go around to six of the local gunshops and recruit members, drop of business cards for people to take that show our web site, etc. One of the side benefits of this activity (other than helping our gun rights) is that I get to know where some good gun deals are located. So I basically knew of about a dozen mini-14's of various flavors, one of which was the used one I was originally looking at.

However, I was making my rounds yesterday, and found that one of my stores had a brand new 580 series, which has been sitting on their shelf for quite awhile, on sale for $50.00 off what it was last time I visited. So I up and bought it. It's wood and blue and has the tapered barrel, came with a 20-round mag. I'm off to the range to shoot it today for the first time. I'm thinking of some kind of red-dot or holographic sight (thanks to the guys who PM'd me already), but I don't want to modify it much. I like wood & blue (what can I say, I'm a traditionalist). Don't want a pistol grip, black rifle, etc. I hasten to add that I'm all for anyone having whatever they like, I'm just on my own trip. Kenno, I think your mini is pretty cool--amazing amount of stuff you've done to it w/o changing the appearance all that much. Also thanks to you guys for educating me on the serial numbers and the models. Now I'll go see if I can do anything w/ the ghost ring sights that came with it. If I can get 4" accuracy at 100 yards I may not even bother with a red dot. I have three different kinds of ammo to try out, so I'll start finding out what it likes.

stinger 327
March 10, 2010, 01:36 PM
Which ammo are you using? 55 grains, 62 grains or any others?
How is it determined which grains are the best?
55 grains is standard.

averius
March 10, 2010, 02:06 PM
I saw a review recently of a mini 14 in 6.8 SPC. I tried to find this model on Ruger's website, but dont see it. Does anyone here own one of these? Is it a gas piston? Where and for how much cna one be purchased?

BCCL
March 10, 2010, 05:50 PM
Add a new member to the club, just bought this "All Weather" Ranch Rifle last week!!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m103/Bear_Claw_Chris_Lappe/Gun%20Collection/Mini-14-upload.jpg

averius
March 10, 2010, 11:12 PM
Add a new member to the club, just bought this "All Weather" Ranch Rifle last week!!

Where did you buy it and how much do they run for?

stinger 327
March 11, 2010, 12:12 AM
Add a new member to the club, just bought this "All Weather" Ranch Rifle last week!!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m103/Bear_Claw_Chris_Lappe/Gun%20Collection/Mini-14-upload.jpg
I have heard that these new Mini-14's don't have the problems of the old Mini 14 where the barrel got hot quickly and then you wouldn't have consistent groupings. Impossible to sight in.

LeontheProfessional
March 11, 2010, 12:44 AM
The newer minis with the 16in barrels seem to be even better for this.

RobertsUSA
March 11, 2010, 01:22 AM
averius: " saw a review recently of a mini 14 in 6.8 SPC. I tried to find this model on Ruger's website, but dont see it. Does anyone here own one of these? Is it a gas piston? Where and for how much cna one be purchased? "

They must make them as the factory sells 6.8 mags.

Jeff23
March 11, 2010, 08:56 AM
Actually Leon, I looked at the pic of your rifle and amalgamated it with Kenno's list of alterations. What a dyslexic I am at times. :) Are you keeping the stock sights?

BCCL
March 11, 2010, 09:00 AM
Where did you buy it and how much do they run for?

I ordered it through a local gun shop, was $680.00.

Jeff23
March 11, 2010, 02:28 PM
And BCCL, are you keeping your stock sights? I'm deciding what to do with mine.

BCCL
March 11, 2010, 04:35 PM
And BCCL, are you keeping your stock sights? I'm deciding what to do with mine.

Yep, so far I like them.

LeontheProfessional
March 11, 2010, 10:40 PM
Actually Leon, I looked at the pic of your rifle and amalgamated it with Kenno's list of alterations. What a dyslexic I am at times. :) Are you keeping the stock sights?
Yea I am for now. Sometimes I throw a scope on it for hunting but it usually comes right back off. I would not mind getting tech sights on it eventually.

stinger 327
March 12, 2010, 01:03 AM
Yea I am for now. Sometimes I throw a scope on it for hunting but it usually comes right back off. I would not mind getting tech sights on it eventually.
Nikon Bushmaster has a scope with that BDC feature.

averius
March 12, 2010, 02:36 AM
I ordered it through a local gun shop, was $680.00.

what the max capacity for the magazines in 6.8 SPC that these accept? I read soemthing about the barrels getting hot -- or at least they used to with old models..have you experienced anythign like that? How's the recoil? accuracy?

sorry for the 12 questions...I have a few dollars left to spedn for this year on toys and am debating all the options...this oen seems like a viable alternative to the more expensive AR platforms in the same caliber...it is ofcourse a different system...

BTS is this mini gas piston operated?

BCCL
March 12, 2010, 11:03 AM
what the max capacity for the magazines in 6.8 SPC that these accept? I read soemthing about the barrels getting hot -- or at least they used to with old models..have you experienced anythign like that? How's the recoil? accuracy?

sorry for the 12 questions...I have a few dollars left to spedn for this year on toys and am debating all the options...this oen seems like a viable alternative to the more expensive AR platforms in the same caliber...it is ofcourse a different system...

BTS is this mini gas piston operated?

Largest capacity 6.8 factory mags on Rugers website are 5 round.

I haven't experienced any of thos issues yet, recoil in .223 is virtually non-existent. Not much more than my Ruger 10/22, and accuracy so far has been fine. I forgot my sight adjustment tool when I went out to shoot it, so I couldn't adjust it, but it shoot 55gr FMJ's by Remington and Winchester both just fine.

Yes, Mini-14's use a fixed piston gas system.

JTQ
March 12, 2010, 01:09 PM
averius: " saw a review recently of a mini 14 in 6.8 SPC. I tried to find this model on Ruger's website, but dont see it. Does anyone here own one of these? Is it a gas piston? Where and for how much cna one be purchased? "

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14AllWeatherRanchRifle/models.html

Candiru
March 12, 2010, 01:28 PM
what the max capacity for the magazines in 6.8 SPC that these accept? I read soemthing about the barrels getting hot -- or at least they used to with old models..have you experienced anythign like that? How's the recoil? accuracy?

sorry for the 12 questions...I have a few dollars left to spedn for this year on toys and am debating all the options...this oen seems like a viable alternative to the more expensive AR platforms in the same caliber...it is ofcourse a different system...

BTS is this mini gas piston operated?

The Mini is direct impingement: Gas is funneled out of the barrel and blasted right onto the op-rod.

Here's a review of the Mini I bought. (http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=45951) I disassembled it and took some photos of the internals, which you might find interesting.

It looks a bit different now...

http://how-i-did-it.org/img/THE_TACTICAL/tn_front_angle_full_frontlit.jpg

And since then I've added a couple more things I deemed useful for its role as a home defense longarm, but haven't had a chance to take photos yet.

BruceB
March 12, 2010, 02:11 PM
That Mini Tactical Model has a flash-hider I intensely dislike. It really looks like a stuck-on afterthought.

My particular Mini is the Davidson's Deluxe, with Circassian walnut stock and the very same flash-hider.

These Minis have the muzzle threaded at 9/16x24, right hand thread. SO DOES THE L1A1 inch-pattern FAL!

The FAL flash-hider costs only $8.60 from Numrich Arms (part number 1085520) , AND it incorporates a bayonet mount. The bayonet (L1A2 or L1A3) costs $39.95 with scabbard (part #884340), so for less than $50 we can have both a decent-looking flash-hider AND an as-issued bayonet set-up.

All that's needed to fit the flash-hider is a hacksaw and a file or coarse stone. Shorten the rear of the FH about a half-inch with the hacksaw, and then file or stone it until it comes within maybe an eighth of a turn from having the bayonet lug at 6:00 o'clock, butting up against the front sight base. Then remove it, apply some LocTite, and tighten it with a suitably-protected pipe wrench (tape) so that the bayonet lug is at true bottom.

This gives an almost seamless match-up between sight base and flash-hider. Flat black high-temperature barbecue spray paint closely matches the Mini's finish and completes a very professional-looking job. The installation only adds about an inch to the overall length, allows mounting a VERY nasty-looking 8" blade, and appears far nicer than the Ruger FH.

LeontheProfessional
March 12, 2010, 02:19 PM
what the max capacity for the magazines in 6.8 SPC that these accept? I read soemthing about the barrels getting hot -- or at least they used to with old models..have you experienced anythign like that? How's the recoil? accuracy?

sorry for the 12 questions...I have a few dollars left to spedn for this year on toys and am debating all the options...this oen seems like a viable alternative to the more expensive AR platforms in the same caliber...it is ofcourse a different system...

BTS is this mini gas piston operated?
Promag makes 20 rounders.

stchman
March 12, 2010, 02:29 PM
To candiru:

The Mini-14 is NOT direct impingement, it is a fixed piston.

DI guns blow the gas directly into the chamber.

stinger 327
March 12, 2010, 04:29 PM
That Mini Tactical Model has a flash-hider I intensely dislike. It really looks like a stuck-on afterthought.

My particular Mini is the Davidson's Deluxe, with Circassian walnut stock and the very same flash-hider.

These Minis have the muzzle threaded at 9/16x24, right hand thread. SO DOES THE L1A1 inch-pattern FAL!

The FAL flash-hider costs only $8.60 from Numrich Arms (part number 1085520) , AND it incorporates a bayonet mount. The bayonet (L1A2 or L1A3) costs $39.95 with scabbard (part #884340), so for less than $50 we can have both a decent-looking flash-hider AND an as-issued bayonet set-up.

All that's needed to fit the flash-hider is a hacksaw and a file or coarse stone. Shorten the rear of the FH about a half-inch with the hacksaw, and then file or stone it until it comes within maybe an eighth of a turn from having the bayonet lug at 6:00 o'clock, butting up against the front sight base. Then remove it, apply some LocTite, and tighten it with a suitably-protected pipe wrench (tape) so that the bayonet lug is at true bottom.

This gives an almost seamless match-up between sight base and flash-hider. Flat black high-temperature barbecue spray paint closely matches the Mini's finish and completes a very professional-looking job. The installation only adds about an inch to the overall length, allows mounting a VERY nasty-looking 8" blade, and appears far nicer than the Ruger FH.
Does the flash suppressor effect the sighting? So if you cite M-14 in then put on flash suppressor do you have to readjust sights?

LeontheProfessional
March 12, 2010, 04:36 PM
Does the flash suppressor effect the sighting

I don'y know about an M14 but it does effect the POI on a mini 14

BruceB
March 12, 2010, 07:15 PM
In all honesty, I don't know if the FH change makes much difference. I didn't notice anything with the iron sights, but I also changed the FH when the rifle was almost new. The Ruger and L1A1 flash-hiders weigh much the same, so I expect the variation might be minor. (Even firing groups with the bayonet mounted didn't make much difference, either in grouping or point of impact.)

My Mini now has a 1-4x Leupold Mark AR mounted, so it's not much of a problem anyway. The new flash-hider DOES make a big difference in the appearance of the rifle. I'll try to get a photo posted.

stinger 327
March 12, 2010, 07:24 PM
I don'y know about an M14 but it does effect the POI on a mini 14
That's what I meant Mini-14..I know there is a M-14 the bigger one.

sargents1
April 15, 2010, 11:11 PM
New member here.

Finally got around to posting some pics. Hope this works out. I got this Mini from my brother. He and his lady were buying a house so I was sending him a check for a house-warming gift. He didnt feel right about taking my money so he sent me the rifle (plus two 20rd, three 30rd and one 5rd mag, a scope mount, Nikon Scope w/rings and a bucket load of once fired brass, come to think of it, I might have actually gotten a better deal out of it than he did but I digress...).

I added the M14 style pin-on flash hider, Accu-Strut, the Amega scout rail and the Tru-glo red dot. So far I am very happy with it. The target in the picture was shot at 100yds, 10 shots in about a minute using Federal 55gr FMJBTs from Walmart. Not too bad for a Dot-sight that covers about 5-6in on a 100yd target.

I also got one of those straight 20rd mags from TripleK with the green follower. It works well. No problems during my last range day.


Cheers,

stinger 327
April 16, 2010, 05:10 AM
New member here.

Finally got around to posting some pics. Hope this works out. I got this Mini from my brother. He and his lady were buying a house so I was sending him a check for a house-warming gift. He didnt feel right about taking my money so he sent me the rifle (plus two 20rd, three 30rd and one 5rd mag, a scope mount, Nikon Scope w/rings and a bucket load of once fired brass, come to think of it, I might have actually gotten a better deal out of it than he did but I digress...).

I added the M14 style pin-on flash hider, Accu-Strut, the Amega scout rail and the Tru-glo red dot. So far I am very happy with it. The target in the picture was shot at 100yds, 10 shots in about a minute using Federal 55gr FMJBTs from Walmart. Not too bad for a Dot-sight that covers about 5-6in on a 100yd target.

I also got one of those straight 20rd mags from TripleK with the green follower. It works well. No problems during my last range day.


Cheers,
I believe 55 grain is the standard for the .223 as they do have them in other weights.

Sportsman3000
July 29, 2010, 09:52 AM
BruceB or anyone who has done this...

How specifically do you remove a flash hider from a new ruger tactical mini 14? I am not a gun smith and only have average joe tools.

otcconan
August 9, 2010, 01:12 PM
Quick question guys, does the MINI-14 take 5.56 or .223 REM.



Semper Fi!!

I think that concern is more important when distinguishing civilian ARs from mil-spec M16's and M4's, mostly due to the direct impingement system of those rifles.

KMO
August 10, 2010, 12:51 AM
How specifically do you remove a flash hider from a new ruger tactical mini 14? I am not a gun smith and only have average joe tools.

I've heard that it has to be heated up for removal.

stinger 327
August 13, 2010, 12:34 AM
Just have a gun smith remove it.

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