cleaning rod damage - I didn't expect this - buttstock damage???


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W.E.G.
December 24, 2007, 03:08 PM
cleaning rod damage - I didn't expect this - buttstock damage???

AR15-A2 rifle

Lower assembly is from Olympic Arms, including the buttstock.
1993 vintage.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/OlympicArmsAR-15.jpg

I've kept for several years in the buttstock, a segmented cleaing rod, as well as one of those little bottles of Break-Free, and a plastic bore-brush cylinder containing a bore brush.

I've never had occasion to use it, and the rifle has been fired 700-1000 rounds at most since I put the cleaning rod stuff in the buttstock.

I've kept a wadded-up portion of a plastic grocery store bag smooshed between the trap door and the contents of the stock to keep the contents from rattling around. I basically just smooshed the plastic bag into the void between the contents and the trap door until it felt like the trap door would close with some slight compression of the plastic bag. The excess bag was removed with scissors. In case this is at all unclear, the purpose of the wadded-up bag was just to serve as filler.

I fired the rifle yesterday, so today I set about cleaning it. Frankly, I had forgotten about what exactly was in the buttstock. So, I decided to inspect. Upon removal of the above-mentioned contents, and observing what looked like sawdust from cutting plastic, I discovered this.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage1.jpg

The cleaning rods appear to have eaten into the stock about a quarter inch.

Fook me with a pogo stick!!!

Here is a close up of the offenders.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage2.jpg

Here is a group photo.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage3.jpg

As far as compromise of function of the rifle, I don't see any particular hazard.
But I'm still annoyed.

(everybody runs frantically to their gunsafe to see if their rifle is similarly damagedů)

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3006mv
December 24, 2007, 03:26 PM
maybe you can syringe some epoxy down there and let it harden and then get some kind of caps for you rod pieces, those nylon rubber things come to mind (red or black), or an Rx bottle for all of them and slide them all back in. I love the old school handguards and buttstock.

Winger Ed.
December 24, 2007, 03:32 PM
I don't see how it could hurt the rifle.
But to keep it from chewing a deeper hole- if you repack the rod in there:
Just put a coin or something hard down there at the bottom of the hole.
And put caps on the rod pieces- or turn them around backwards.
.

Joe Demko
December 24, 2007, 04:07 PM
The army-issued cleaning kit comes in a heavy vinyl pouch tapered to fit into the buttstock. It prevents such damage as well as keeping all the bits and pieces of the cleaning kit from rattling. You should get one and use it.

jagdpanzer347
December 24, 2007, 04:12 PM
Magazine in rifle: check. Where in the bloody 'ELL is the concrete!

-jagd

W.E.G.
December 24, 2007, 04:46 PM
I'm too cheap to waste money on the special cleaning rod pouches.

WECSOG is the way. Break out the JB!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage4.jpg

Co-mingle the assets

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage5.jpg

Careful aim

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage6.jpg

Penny for your thoughts!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/cleaningroddamage7.jpg

Shadowangel
December 24, 2007, 05:00 PM
I think the jb weld alone could have done it. that stuff gets HARD when dry. But the penny should definitely take care of the problem.

Winger Ed.
December 24, 2007, 11:46 PM
Good job.

The old dirt track racers-
the cars that look like real big go-karts with a V-8 engine-
used to all weld a Nickel on thier rear cage/bumpers.

The idea was,
'You'll never go home broke'.

Ohh,
Let's not say 'too cheap'.
"Frugal" sounds much more sophisticated.

.

jonnyc
December 25, 2007, 09:30 AM
I would skip the penny. I'm no chemist, but a rod of one metal, up against a copper penny, for months/years, could lead to bimetalllic corrosion. No need to tempt fate. Your cleaning rod looked like steel, was it?

nicholst55
December 25, 2007, 09:55 AM
And now your rifle is worth one additional penny!

eliphalet
December 25, 2007, 11:24 AM
Now JB a piece of rubber or the like to protect the threads on your rods.

W.E.G.
December 25, 2007, 11:28 AM
Its a steel rod set.

I'll be checking on it plenty often, now that I have a motivating reason to do so.
My preferred cleaing "rod" is an Otis pull through. The segment rod is only there for "just in case."

murph50
December 25, 2007, 01:45 PM
I just started using the Otis system--it works pretty good.
Won't the Otis kit in the little zipper bag fit in that buttstock instead of putting the rods in there. If it fits --that may be a more efficient way to go

W.E.G.
December 25, 2007, 01:48 PM
I'm sure it will.

But it will not punch a squib bullet out of the bore.
Probably won't do a good job on an frozen stuff either unless you take time to build a fire.

thebaldguy
December 25, 2007, 03:21 PM
How about wrapping up the the cleaning kit in a rag? The rag will come in handy for cleaning, and it may keep things from rattling around.

W.E.G.
December 25, 2007, 03:39 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/cleaningkitSmBW.jpg

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