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Gunz72
December 24, 2007, 06:47 PM
whats the deal with getting M1s from the CMP... has anyone done it, and what all do i have to have to get one???

what is the quality of the guns i am thinking rack grade, field grade or service grade.

let me know what you guys got for me

sorry about the lack of caps, spelling and puncuation...

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JoeG52
December 24, 2007, 06:56 PM
Here are the requirements...
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

The easiest way for club membership is to join the Garand Collectors Assocoation for $25
http://www.thegca.org/

I recommend that you buy the best grade you can afford. It bought a service grade over 20 years ago. It is a great shooter.

Bruce333
December 24, 2007, 07:02 PM
If you belong to any State level groups check the list of clubs, you might already belong to one and not realize it.

http://clubs.odcmp.com/cgi-bin/clubSearch.cgi

http://www.vcdl.org/ and http://www.myvssa.org/ are both on the list.

Gunz72
December 24, 2007, 07:15 PM
i am active duty so i dont need to be a member my mil id gets me in that for free.

nbkky71
December 24, 2007, 07:21 PM
If you're going to get one via mail order, a service grade will be the best bet.

If you have the opportunity to visit the north or south stores, then you may be able to hand-pick a decent rack or field grade. There are some diamonds-in-the-rough if you're willing to pick through them all.

Gunz72
December 24, 2007, 07:24 PM
i am willing to go to the stores if you can tell me were they are i would gladly make a trip.

i am also a c&r holder

i woudl like to pick it but might have to get it mailed

iamkris
December 24, 2007, 07:26 PM
Use the search function...there are about 1000 threads on this topic.

And yes it is worth it. Here are my 2 service grades and one of their "specials".

http://i2.tinypic.com/52arn7t.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1039/specialwy2.jpg

nbkky71
December 24, 2007, 07:29 PM
The CMP has a store located at Camp Perry, OH (aka - north store) and near the Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, AL (aka - south store)

http://www.odcmp.com/Store.htm

Pretty much everything you need to know is on the CMP website. They will let you pick out a rifle at the store and ship it to your home address. However, you will have to pay sales tax AND shipping charges if decide to do that.

The staff at the stores are very helpful and will assist you in picking out a rifle.

CMP M1 rifles are addicting and you'll end up with more than one. I started out with a H&R service grade a few years ago and now I'm up to 5 of them.

P-32
December 24, 2007, 08:46 PM
Being active duty takes care of the shooting activity requirement, it won't take care of belonging to a CMP affiliated club. I'm retired Navy, a Vet, high power shooter and a full time LEO and I still have to belong to a CMP affiliated club.

If you go to a CMP store to hand pick a rifle, pick one out for the metal, not the stock.

TIMC
December 24, 2007, 09:21 PM
Don't know about the ones they have now but the one I got several years ago is nice. I say get one.
Here is mine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Garandwithirons.jpg?t=1198548883

.45Guy
December 24, 2007, 09:41 PM
This one came from CMP in a round about sort of way. I'm happy with it!
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/Garand002.jpg

Gunz72
December 24, 2007, 11:13 PM
QUESTION: I’m in the U.S. military. Am I still required to belong to an affiliated club?

ANSWER: No. The military services are special affiliates. A copy of your current/retiree military ID card serves to prove as membership in a CMP affiliated organization.


i found this on the cmp web site on there faq,s.. this says to me that if you are active duty your id is your cmp membership

tell me what you think

thansk again

great pic from all

dmftoy1
December 25, 2007, 06:20 AM
I read it the same way as you do. I'd say to order a Service Grade, I think you'll be very happy. I know I love shooting mine. I'm trying to fight the urge to order a M1 Carbine in January. :)

U.S.SFC_RET
December 25, 2007, 07:09 AM
Active Military or Retired Military NO you don't have to belong to an affiliated club. the CMP is the best bet by a long shot when buying the M1 Garand because the M1 doesn't get "cherry picked" for parts and sold for their "premium" afterwards.
Same applies with the M1 Carbine. The Carbine along with the M1 Garand is test fired. Some carbine bolt lugs wear on the backside and no headspace gauge in the world can tell you that.
The best thing you can do is do a function test before buying a Garand but your best bet is the CMP.

Mac Attack
December 25, 2007, 07:27 AM
I purchased two Service Grade Garands from the CMP and am extremely happy with both of them.

As a matter of fact, if they are open this week I plan to make a trip to CMP south just to take a look around and pick up some ammo.

20yearvet
December 25, 2007, 07:31 AM
Being active duty takes care of the shooting activity requirement, it won't take care of belonging to a CMP affiliated club. I'm retired Navy, a Vet, high power shooter and a full time LEO and I still have to belong to a CMP affiliated club.


Former law enforcement, military service etc, that can be documented makes you eligible. If you can document your law enforcement or military service, you do not have to belong to an affiliated club.

Yes, purchases through the CMP are well worth it. You will never get a rifle that is worse than the criteria for the grade you purchase. Generally, you will get something better than the description/criteria. Most Garands will bring more on the open market than what the CMP sells them for.

akolleth
December 25, 2007, 08:30 AM
If you can at all, go to one of the stores. Not only do you get your Garand on the spot after all the paperwork and NICS check, but you get to cherry pick your rifle. You are at the whim of fate when mail ordering. Another plus is that the guys at the north store are extremely friendly and helpful, especially PeeWee. Although I only have experience with the north store, I have heard the south store has a similar level of friendliness.

Here is my Woodless Dane I bought from them about a year ago (after adding a stock). 1.1 million Springfield (built February 1943) with a Danish VAR barrel, a throat erosion of 2 and a muzzle wear of 3. Had to look through a bunch of the woodless to get her though--


http://home.earthlink.net/~akolleth/garand.jpg

BobTheTomato
December 25, 2007, 01:54 PM
Get a serivce grade......you will be happy

Beetle Bailey
December 25, 2007, 02:26 PM
I got a Service Grade USGI M1 Garand in either 2004 or 2005 (can't remember) and was very pleased so in early 2006 I got another Service Grade M1 Garand (this one was a Greek-return) and it was in even better condition than the first one. I've gotten a few offers to buy the second one (including a standing "if you ever, ever decide to sell it at anytime down the road. . . ) but I always just refer them to the CMP so they can get their own.

Maybe this is not the best method of comparison, but I've looked at what they ask for at the local gunshows (dunno if anyone actually pays these prices). I got both my Garands for $500 each from the CMP. In similar condition at the shows, I see something comparable to the first one priced at $750-800 and for the nicer Greek-return, $950-1000. With the gunshow guns, I don't know about barrel condition. Put me down as a happy customer as I sometimes think about getting yet another CMP Garand, but actually I could use a new shotgun more. . .

Samuraigg
December 25, 2007, 02:43 PM
The membership requirement is easy... just join one of the clubs that the CMP lists.

How are you folks getting the marksmanship requirement fulfilled? The best thing I can think of is bring the "Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity" to my local range and see if one of the range officers will sign it.

Mr White
December 25, 2007, 03:01 PM
If you're active duty, that'll fulfill the club membership and the marksmanship activity requirements.

Get the best that you can afford, but you might want to skip the collectors grade if they're available. You might find one of those is too pretty to shoot. Them ain't shooting guns, them's fancy lookin' at guns.

Joemyxplyx
December 25, 2007, 03:50 PM
I got my paperwork together including a birth certificate. I FAXed the paperwork to the CMP and got approved the same day.

A week or so later, I drove to the CMP store at Camp Perry. All of the field and service grade Garands were gone. Most of what was left were shabby rack grade guns. I found two that gaged 3 or so on the throat and muzzle. The barrels were OK, worn but serviceable. The stocks were oil soaked. The trigger housings could be removed with finger power alone - no need to put a rod through the guard for leverage.

However that was the condition of the M1'a I trained on 45 years ago. Then I could hit a human silhouette at 175 meters all day long.

I restocked one of the guns with a CMP stock kit - nice black walnut. Both guns seemed to shoot OK. I need more time with mine - my son has the other one. The first impressions were that the guns had gotten heavier in 45 years. They kick more than they used to. 175 meters is a lot farther than it used to be.

I think these changes are part of the expanding universe thing. Global warming could also be a factor.:) Merry Christmas

P-32
December 25, 2007, 04:13 PM
Well, thanks guys! I had to go read the requirements and found out you guys are saving me $35.00 a year to join WRSPA as my retired card already meets it. I'm still trying to dsecided if I want to order a carbine or H&R att he frist of the year. I would still have to join WRSPA if I want to shoot any EIC matches here in Washington State. Thanks again and next time I must check before opening my pie hole.

Merry Christmas!

ma96782
December 25, 2007, 06:20 PM
There are several ways..........for the "civilians"........IMHO.......

1) Find a "qualifying" club and join.......it's part of the requirement.*

2) Find a Match to attend.

3) Shoot the match.....it qualifies you.

4) Fill out the paperwork and apply to buy a rifle from the CMP.

5) Wait. The delivery will be made to your door. (or depending on where you live, you might have to p/u at the main office).

6) Now, you'll have a story to pass down and along, to your kids and friends.

*certain requirements can be waived........see the web site for details.

http://www.odcmp.com/

Aloha, Mark

cracked butt
December 25, 2007, 10:15 PM
I bought this service grade HRA about 4-5 years ago. Can't say that I can find anything wrong with it or have any complaints:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/brimic/Picture016.jpg

hamourkiller
December 26, 2007, 12:01 AM
My TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association) membership satisfied the orginisation requirement and my hunters education certificate satisfied the shooting requirements. A concealed hand gun permit also works.

Even if you dont get the Garand, buy some of the reloadable ball greek ammo fo .27cts a round. Cant go wrong.

Oohrah
December 26, 2007, 12:32 AM
Belonging to a veteran group VFW, Marine Corps League, DAV and some
others qualify as a membership in a club or affiliate.
Firearms related activity Current or past military, Concealed Carry License,
OVER THE AGE OF 60!!!!
:D

aaronrkelly
December 26, 2007, 04:05 PM
I have a field grade I bought last year, Im MORE than happy with it.

The wood is kinda beat but it shoots great....well worth the $425.

SOG is selling M1s for $695 and the few I have seen were in worse shape then my $425 field grade.

MikeH
December 26, 2007, 05:47 PM
I got a rack grade Garand from CMP. The gas cylinder started slipping up the barrel, so I got permission to return it for repair/replacement.

What they shipped back to me was this little darling ... :D
http://taiwanmilitary.org/mikeh/albums/album48/DSC03605.jpg

To CMP's credit, everyone I contacted was nice and helpful. If I can afford more Garands and Carbines, I'd buy from them again.

ma96782
December 26, 2007, 07:15 PM
... has anyone done it, and what all do i have to have to get one???
I've already outlined how to get one so......here is my Garand Story......


I got my first Garand from the DCM......it was way back when, they were still called "DCM." It was suppose to be a buy of a lifetime. Yup, you were limited to 1 rifle for your lifetime. Well.......I did what was required, join a club, shot the matches (IIRC it was two matches to qualify), got fingerprinted, signed the affidavit w/ a notary, and sent off a postal MO. I waited and waited (was it 3-6 months). One day, the package finally came, via the US Postal Service mail truck. I felt like a kid at Christmas.

Jeez........I got a IHC.......I felt like I had won the lottery. And, in a way I did. That, is what started my addiction. Hello, my name is Mark, and I'm a Garandaholic......


Aloha, Mark

PS……..You kids.....now a days, got it easy.

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