View Full Version : Always hand inspect your ammo!
Jackal
December 26, 2007, 02:12 PM
Upon opening a box of CCI Blazer Brass .45acp yesterday and loading up a couple mags for my Para P12, I noticed a round with a dent. A little further inspection also shows a odd tapered rim. I am glad I check my ammo and I'm also glad this is just for plinking. Remember, always inspect your ammo. I wonder what would have happened had I actually tried firing it. I am sure there are a lot of rounds that leave factories with similar issues, but I personally think that its a BIG deal! The last thing we need is our factory ammo blowing our faces off when we try to fire it. I emailed CCI/Speer with the issue, pics and the lot number and they said they are gonna look into it and ship me a replacement box 'o ammo. I will post back when I get the ammo, but so far, thumbs up to customer service. Anyone else have this problem lately? Let them know.
Eyesac
December 26, 2007, 02:53 PM
Good golly! That's an ugly mistake. Funny thing is, that thing would probably load, fire and extract just fine!
American_Pit_Bull
December 26, 2007, 02:58 PM
that thing would probably load, fire and extract just fine!I was thinking the same thing.
CountGlockula
December 26, 2007, 03:01 PM
I wouldn't risk it, by "trying it out".
I need to inspect my ammo now.
Walkalong
December 26, 2007, 03:31 PM
I would. If it will chamber, it will shoot just fine.
CTPistol
December 26, 2007, 03:38 PM
45acp? - no prob with the dent...heck Id shoot it and reload it 12 more times.
factory ammo -- :barf:
:)
American_Pit_Bull
December 26, 2007, 04:07 PM
Posted by CountGlockula:
I wouldn't risk it, by "trying it out".Heck, I wouldn't risk it in a Glock either!!!
j/k... http://www.anarchic-x.com/forum/images/smiles/banana00.gif
Rexster
December 26, 2007, 05:17 PM
It's not just the manufacturer; I once found a 10mm cartridge in a box of .45 ACP, and the brands were not the same, so it didn't happen at the factory.
Halo is for Kids
December 26, 2007, 07:31 PM
I got one of these in a WWB USA 100 round box, only one I've ever seen in well over 10K:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/haloisforkids/HPIM1261cropped.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/haloisforkids/HPIM1257cropped.jpg
HammerBite
December 26, 2007, 07:58 PM
I don't think that .45 ACP case could be chambered from a magazine, the rim would never get past the extractor. Also notice how deeply the bullet is set into the case. I imagine the overall length is perfect, but for the wrong reasons.
wcwhitey
December 26, 2007, 08:04 PM
I should of taken some pictures but last year I purchased two boxes of CCI Lawman 230 hardball. Upon inspection about 10% were severely over seated, enough to cause problems if shot. Different depths but some had the bullets pushed against the powder. To their credit they replaced the ammo and a box for my troubles but you are right, "Check your Ammo!.
Walkalong
December 26, 2007, 09:33 PM
I got one of these in a WWB USA 100 round box, only one I've ever seen in well over 10K:Now THAT one won't shoot. :D
IDriveB5
December 26, 2007, 09:38 PM
Heres a good one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/IDriveB5/Random%20Pics/deform45001.jpg
(R-P)
davepool
December 26, 2007, 10:42 PM
Found a cartridge with the primer inserted backwards in a box of Hornady 200 grain SST for my .460 S&W, when i'm firing the big guns i always closely inspect every round.
The Lone Haranguer
December 27, 2007, 09:52 AM
I once had a box of Fiocchi .45 in which probably half the cases were crumpled. I should have checked before loading one into a SIG P220. :rolleyes: It fed and chambered about halfway in. The advice often given to hit the back of the slide when it fails to go into battery was very bad in this case, only serving to wedge it in even tighter.
(Pun unintentional.;))
I also had some rounds of American Ammunition (headstamped A-MERC, not Federal American Eagle) with the primers in backwards, but caught them in time.
TennVOL
December 27, 2007, 10:12 AM
I had the exact same thing happen last week in a box of Blazer .45. I opened the box and noticed that the ammo was inserted primer down instead of primer up. I looked at each round and had 8 bad ones that were similiar or worse than the poster above. I called CCI and they want me to send in the box.
The Bushmaster
December 27, 2007, 11:47 AM
Hey Walkalong...Out of curiosity after loading a round with the primer in sideways I took it out to my range and loaded it into my Colt .45 ACP to just see if it would fire. Believe it or not...It did... I WILL NOT do that again. I did get a bit (hell) a lot of blow-back. Definate not a good practice. God not only protects the innocent, but also the curious dummies...
Walkalong
December 27, 2007, 01:06 PM
Hey Walkalong...Out of curiosity after loading a round with the primer in sideways I took it out to my range and loaded it into my Colt .45 ACP to just see if it would fire. Believe it or not...It did...
I stand corrected. :D
Can't be good for the breechface though.
foghornl
December 27, 2007, 01:37 PM
I have run into a bad round of ammo every now and then (been shooting for almost 40 years), but USUALLY, if you contact the ammo maker, they will send you a box for your trouble, plus replace the bad stuff.
biscuitninja
December 27, 2007, 01:45 PM
Davepool,
I do the same thing. Mainly because the rifles are SO expensive and expensive to fix. It goes without saying that when you get to VERY large powder charges the danger goes way up also.
On a different note, I've seen what happens when you blow up a 155mm custom Howitzer. The breech flew 40 ft, then through 18" of concrete, reinforces wall, THEN through the other side and then 20 ft into a earth berm. It wasn't pretty. Chamber pressures were WELL over 120kPsi and verging on the 190kPsi when they should have been 70kPsi.
keep it safe
-bix
leadcounsel
December 27, 2007, 01:49 PM
My dog got into a box of .22 LR recently and chewed similar dents into two of the .22 LR rounds.
Over the holiday I chambered and shot both without an issue. No big deal. If it chambers fine, why do you think it will blow up or behave differently?
Sure, if you're worried just toss it out and it's only a few pennys or whatever, and while it may not extract perfectly, otherwise it'll work just fine.
351 WINCHESTER
December 27, 2007, 09:27 PM
Had some w/w treasury loads minus some primers. Wasn't long before the contract was let to Federal.
The Bushmaster
December 28, 2007, 12:03 PM
Walkalong...I only did it once...Curiosity satisfied. And I imagin that a bunch of those would etch the breech face...
RP86
December 28, 2007, 10:54 PM
Good to hear they are going to ship you a new box, keep us posted.
isp2605
December 29, 2007, 12:22 AM
Always check your carry ammo. I've found primers seated sideways (as pictured above), primers backwards, and no primers at all. Found cases with damaged mouths from when the bullet was seated and the mouth was crushed and wrinkled. Once found a 9mm where the case was about 2 mm longer than normal. Looked about a 9X21 but it was in a 9X19 box. These were all defense ammo issued by my dept.
Anything made by man is subject to errors.
silverlance
December 29, 2007, 12:30 AM
for those of us who have been shooting surplus for a while, we always check each round.. you never know which illiterate peasant made your cartridge... the blind one or the nine-fingered one...
biscuitninja
December 29, 2007, 12:37 AM
Silver... how about the 80 year old babushka....:scrutiny:
But yea with the rifles and the bigger powder charges you inspect EVERY single one. Good luck
-bix
Jackal
January 5, 2008, 03:03 PM
Here's an update: I got the free box of ammo in the mail today. CCI/Speer gets a big thumbs-up for customer service.
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