Another Walmart sleeper?.


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Striker
December 27, 2007, 03:14 PM
While on my way up to Canada last Saturday to spend the holidays with my son, I discovered that I had left my travel Gerber at the apartment. I stopped at the Walmart in Ellicottville, NY with the intention of picking up a Native. None in stock, but what they did have was a US made Kershaw Storm II for $39.95. I have smaller Kershaws' (Leek & Chive), but this was my first big Kershaw folder.

While a bit heavier then I like, I have to say that I'm pretty impressed with the "gripability", smoothness, and lockup of this knife. The 13C26 blade is hair popping, scary sharp from the factory and I'll be interested to see what edge retention is like.

All in all, it appears to be a decent knife for the cost. Anybody else have any experience with a Storm?

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tinygnat219
December 27, 2007, 11:52 PM
Seems like a nice buy. What do these normally go for?

mercop
December 28, 2007, 12:22 AM
If it is Kershaw it is good. The have some of the best CS in the business.

The Deer Hunter
December 28, 2007, 12:36 AM
Ive got that rainbow colored one and the blade holds up nice. I don't know if its the same with all of them but mine is made of some kind of steel/titanium alloy.

I do sharpen it, though.

LAK
December 29, 2007, 01:16 AM
12C27 is Sandvik steel; what is 13C26 - or is that a typo error?

mrkwns
December 30, 2007, 01:01 AM
12C27 is Sandvik steel; what is 13C26 - or is that a typo error?


Googled it:
Sandvik 13C26 is a martensitic stainless chromium steel. After heat treatment the steel grade is characterised by:

- High hardness
- Good corrosion resistance
- Very good wear resistance

Sandvik 13C26 is used mainly for razor blades, but is also the standard grade for surgical knives and for different types of industrial knives for the food industry.

I would say you could definitley get a good edge on a blade made from this stuff. I might have to go to wallyworld.

Lone Star
December 30, 2007, 06:11 PM
Can you possess and carry that knife in socialist Canada?


Lone Star

LAK
January 2, 2008, 05:29 AM
mrkwns,

Thanks; 12c27 is remarkable general utility blade material IMO. 13c26 is probably very close in charactaristics, and I'd have confidence in just about anything coming from those folk in Sweden.

jhansman
January 6, 2008, 10:29 PM
I picked up a Storm (I) at Wally World that I found too thin for my hand for EDC, but it earned a place at my reloading bench and comes in handy there. Kershaw represents the best value in folding knives today, IMHO.

Browning
January 14, 2008, 01:15 AM
This one?

http://knifeoutlet.com/shop/products/ker1475.jpg

Does it have assisted opening?

Striker
January 14, 2008, 04:41 PM
Browning,

Thats it.

It does not have assisted opening.

Stainz
January 14, 2008, 07:01 PM
I have a $39.88 Spydie Native in S30V from there. I have a collection of Buck 110's - including a few clearance priced 'collector tin' variants from Wally World - for $21 or less! Saturday, my wife bought me a regular priced Buck Prince (#503) - $24.95 (I later saw it at a local outdoor shop for $54.95!). This dimunitive version of the 110 - with nickel silver bolsters and a 2.5" blade - is a super pocket piece - very 'sheeple-friendly'! Yeah, it is supurbly made, too - and, of course, a shaver. Odd that it comes without a sheath - and is so small - yet costs a few cents more than the 110! Nice knife!

Stainz

Browning
January 15, 2008, 02:27 PM
Striker : Browning,

Thats it.

It does not have assisted opening.

That's too bad, I've been looking at a few of those and I was kind of thinking about buying one.

Wal-Mart also had these Kershaw Blurs for around $50, but I was thinking that maybe the one you bought might be less, but still have assisted opening.

http://www.aapkblades.com/inventory_images/1166553674_knife_3627.jpg

They also have models with a blackened and serrated blade.

http://www.bladehq.com/images/knives/kershaw/Blur_tanto_thumb.jpg

Nikdfish
January 15, 2008, 03:34 PM
The one "large" kershaw I've got is a Speedbump, which is an assisted opener. Here it is with a Rainbow Leek for comparison:

http://www.skhowell.com/images/leek-n-speedbump.jpg

Nick

ArfinGreebly
January 15, 2008, 03:38 PM
So far it seems to me that there's a one-to-one correlation between Kershaw's "spring assisted" actions and "made-in-USA" tags.

The ones that are made in China seem to fall completely within the set of "has no spring assist."

Anyone else notice this?

ArfinGreebly
January 15, 2008, 03:49 PM
Back in October I got a pretty good deal on Kershaw's new (spring assisted) "Needs Work" design. I bought three of them -- two as gifts.

I've been impressed with how well it's designed, how easy it is to hold and use, and how ugly it is. And the "ugly" is actually kind of endearing.

I went back to pick up some more, and discovered that the current pricing is significantly above what I paid, so I've let it go for now. Somebody runs a sale on them, though, and I'll be picking up some more for family.

Also, FWIW, it seems that Wal*Mart has ceased selling any of the Speed Safe (spring assisted) knives. At all. They used to, for instance, sell the Leek. No longer available through them.

Interesting business policy, but I'm guessing it's a consequence of being a national chain with large numbers of stores in states with laws and ordinances forbidding what they are calling "switchblades" (autos, assisted, gravity, flip, blah blah blah), and trying to carry the line in "only those state where they're allowed" complicates things for inventory management.

This actually creates business opportunities for smaller operations who can sell those things Wal*Mart won't carry nationwide. If you open a cutlery store, you don't have to worry about competition from BigBox Corp if they have an aversion to the more desirable brands and designs.

Heck, if I were a small retailer, I'd be actively surveying BigBox Corp and their customers to discover where they're intentionally leaving gaps, and I'd fill those gaps.

Striker
January 15, 2008, 05:33 PM
So far it seems to me that there's a one-to-one correlation between Kershaw's "spring assisted" actions and "made-in-USA" tags.

The ones that are made in China seem to fall completely within the set of "has no spring assist."

Anyone else notice this?


Arfin,

The Storm II in my original post is US made, but without assisted opening.

ArfinGreebly
January 15, 2008, 07:30 PM
Sorry, that's not what I meant.

*Ahem*

What I meant was . . . that NONE Kershaw's Speed Safe assisted folders are made in China.

So, that would be . . . "one-to-one (exclusive) that the Speed Safe knives are ALL made in USA."

Yes, I have plenty of Kershaw folders (like all of the 31xx line, and the Whiskey Gap) that are US-made and don't have the spring assisted mechanism.

I just happened to observe that anything with "China" on the blade does NOT have that feature.

One of these days I'm gonna learn to write.

rem2429
January 19, 2008, 10:20 AM
I love the blur. I prefer it to my Benchmade that was twice as much.

hso
January 19, 2008, 10:26 AM
Kershaw's Speed Safe knives are not made in China (yet).

mossberg
January 28, 2008, 06:01 PM
Can you possess and carry that knife in socialist Canada?

Socialist? Socialist? Oh wait, nevermind.:neener:

Stainz
January 29, 2008, 09:21 AM
I EDC-ed a Scallion and/or a Blur for nearly four years when my wife bought me the Wally-World Spydie Native S30V last spring. I still carried my Buck 110 on occasion... old habit - and super, if large, knife. Even last autumns Dam Leek didn't displace the Native. That S30V holds it's edge!

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/IMG_0310.jpg

Stainz

mp510
January 29, 2008, 01:02 PM
Also, FWIW, it seems that Wal*Mart has ceased selling any of the Speed Safe (spring assisted) knives. At all. They used to, for instance, sell the Leek. No longer available through them.
I have seen non-Kershaw Assisted Openers recently at one local Wal-Mart. They may have been old stock or something, but they were there none the less. Maybe it was a region by region decision, or maybe they just aren't replacing inventory as it sells out.

mp510
January 29, 2008, 01:05 PM
ETA- I just checked the wal-mart website. They do still sell the Leek online, and it is in stock. They will even ship it to your local Wal-Mart for free (you pick it up in person)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5151040

ArfinGreebly
January 29, 2008, 02:44 PM
Wow.

No Thanx.

I paid $50 for the first one, $25 for the second (hey, they were on sale locally).

Besides, despite being handy for outdoor one-handed use with gloves on, I probably won't buy another.

I'd either move up one size or move over to the "Needs Work" model (I got my first three [two were gifts] for $30 each, now I can't find them for less than $50). The Needs Work is a delightfully ugly knife.
http://productimages.moteng.com/K1820.jpg

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/kershaw/images/1820.jpg
It's got a modified Wharncliffe blade (actually, I think they call it a sheepsfoot), quite sharp, quite stout, and it holds well in the hand. I'll have to get some spares. Every time I find I like an unusual knife, some bright boy in marketing decides it needs to be discontinued.

What I need is for a bunch of you to buy one, decide you hate it, and then offer to sell it to me.

:D

hso
January 29, 2008, 03:17 PM
AG,

Assists are not switchblades. If you can show me any state law that categorizes them as such I will send a NIB Needs Work to you for free.;)

ArfinGreebly
January 29, 2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah, I know.

However, when I presented one (a Needs Work) as a gift to a fireman living in Washington state, one of the guys near him remarked that it probably wouldn't be legal for him to carry it on the Washington side of the border, since they are "classed" as a switchblade.

I haven't verified that at all, but I suppose, since I live less than 20 miles from the state line, that I should find out, since I have an assisted folder on my person pretty much at all times.

Let you know what I find.

hso
January 29, 2008, 05:38 PM
one of the guys near him remarked that it probably wouldn't be legal for him to carry it on the Washington side of the border, since they are "classed" as a switchblade.

He's full of crap.

Here's their law concerning switchblades -

RCW 9.41.250
Dangerous weapons -- Penalty -- Exemption for law enforcement officers.

(1) Every person who:

(a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife, or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement;

(b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or

(c) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm,

is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.search (http://search.leg.wa.gov/pub/textsearch/default.asp) of the WA state law on knives doesn't show any mention of assisted openers. Since assists don't open the blade, you still have to open it manually and the mechanism then carries it to the lock position, they don't meet the definition of a switchblade.

ArfinGreebly
January 29, 2008, 06:39 PM
Bob (Smith -- FRGC, FAST) will be happy to hear that.

I'll let him know.

blitzer0101
January 29, 2008, 07:09 PM
The rainbow color is a Titanium oxide coating isn't it?

hso
January 29, 2008, 08:52 PM
Anodized

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