I am so close to getting one on at least one of my pistols......
It sure makes sense..... but the cost keeps me waiting.
So tell me folks...... are they that awesome?
JP
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Lonestar49
December 27, 2007, 07:58 PM
...
I just, now, posted this same thread over at the Beretta forum.. lol
My CT equipped Kimber. By the time I shot 40 yards it was so dark the target was just a Gray blur.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/CT7to40yards.jpg
Weak hand point shooting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/CTlefthand15shots.jpg
Fast close up shooting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/5yardsrapidfire.jpg
JPP
December 27, 2007, 08:16 PM
Forgot to mention..... my main 2 carry guns are a J frame model 60 and
a Sig P239........ thanks
JP
cpalmer777
December 27, 2007, 08:23 PM
I love my LG 405 Crimson Trace for my Smith and Wesson 642 J Frame. I am not able to easily get to a range and practice. My CT permits me to practice EVERYDAY with various training scenarios. My ability to keep the red dot still as I roll the trigger has improved at least 30%! :D Not to mention the recoil absorbing property which is worth its weight in gold. Also, shooting in awkward positions and using my other hand to shoot is a snap. You never know what situation or position you may be in should you have to engage. I’m a proponent for having any advantage I can. If my laser further intimidates or discourages the bad guy/girl without having to fire a shot then PERFECT! You’re correct, it’s not cheap, but I bought mine at a very good price on line for $219.00 total. This price also included the DVD “Shots in the Dark” as well. Yes, they are AWESOME!
Good luck,
cpalmer777
WVMountainBoy
December 27, 2007, 08:31 PM
I just picked up my S&W1911 with CT today, haven't got it to the range yet...so if I decide I don't like them, there will be a set for sale hehe.
You can get them as factory options on some sidearms, too.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0138-2.jpg
Whoops, forgot the stickers, here ya go.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0005.jpg
cpalmer777
December 27, 2007, 08:47 PM
I forgot to mention that I made my purchase with Shooters Resource (shooters-resource.com). I worked with a highly ethical gentleman by the name of Chuck Erickson at 541-788-3418. It was a flawless transaction! :)
I cannot speak more highly of the quality of their grips, the out-the-box accuracy and the commitment of CTC to stand behind their product.
You will not regret the investment
possum
December 28, 2007, 12:39 AM
i think they are great though i don't have any guns with them on it, i have alot of experience with em and i am very happy with em, from hi-cp poly guns, 1911's wheel guns. i think they are great. i enjoy the fact that you can add a laser to a gun and it dosen't mean you have to get a whole new holster and such.
jmcalli
December 28, 2007, 01:57 AM
You asked "who has one and loves it," so maybe I shouldn't respond. I got CT grips (two of them; they come as a pair ;) ) with my Sig P226. It's hard to see the laser in daylight, which wasn't a surprise, but they broke after the first outing, which was. They seem very delicate, a thin plastic cover over a poorly contained PC board inside the grips and weak solder joints. The main power switch is also difficult to operate, but that's not a big deal - you're supposed to leave them on, according to CT.
After a disappointing first outing, I shipped the non functional grips to Crimson Trace for repair. This was a hassle because the address listed on their warranty instructions was wrong and they came back to me as undeliverable. :banghead: After CT finally answered my emails with return instructions and an RMA number I shipped them out for repair again several week ago. So far they are not awesome. :(
Phil DeGraves
December 28, 2007, 10:08 AM
Why not just learn to use the sights?
Cannonball888
December 28, 2007, 10:32 AM
Why not just learn to use the sights?
Difficult to see iron sights in the dark.
A laser allows you to shoot from any position, even the hip.
A laser allows you to keep full view of your target and surroundings
jfh
December 28, 2007, 10:32 AM
Here's my experiences with CT grips on my j-frames.
1. Overall, I am extremely satisfied. The bottom line is, at 60+ years of age, my eyes no longer work they way they once did--and, coming from a marksmanship background, it's real easy to fall into long-ingrained sighting habits in a shooting scenario. (Believe me, Phil DeGraves, I know how to use sights--but overcoming the marksmanship techniques I traditionally have used is important, IMO, for carry / PD shooting.)
2. The LG305 grip I have on my 640 has been problem-free from the git-go. It is visible in bright day shade out to at least 50 feet. Once I figured out how to do point shooting with them (and once I had acclimated to DAO), I've shot heads-up benchrest goups of 3/8"h x 1&1/4"w at 15 yards.
3. The LG405 grip on my M&P 340 has been problematic, but it is most likely a peculiarity of my hand muscle structure and use. I've torn out the left side of the recoil pocket on three of them--the first, after about 75 rounds; the second, after 5-10 rounds, and the latest / third, after about 600 rounds. Since no one else has complained of this happening, I have to assume it's "my quirk"--and CT has sent me new ones / exchange promptly, per the warranty.
4. As illustrated in this thread, the benefit for all shooters comes in dry-fire practice at home--print out one of those diagnosis targets and work on your trigger stroke / gripping.
Highly, highly recommended--other shooters here have offered up the benefits, so I won't be repetitive.
Jim H.
welldoya
December 28, 2007, 11:09 AM
Maybe practice improves your shooting with laser grips but I can shoot my 642 with iron sights better than than I can shoot my brother-in-law's 642 with factory-installed 305s.
I wouldn't mind having a pair just to play with but not at $200 +.
RustyShackelford
December 28, 2007, 11:49 AM
I got a set of CT lasergrips for my snub Taurus .357mag in 2004. The sight worked well but when I adjusted it for my left hand, the small screws would bite into my skin with only a few shots. :mad: I'd avoid really moving the lasergrip sights a lot if you can.
I'd also wait until CT releases a new green laser type grip. Most other weapon laser aimers on the US market now have more powerful green models. I do not know what Crimsontrace's hold up is, :rolleyes:. They claim to have the most powerful lasers by US law but why do other companies sell them? ;).
www.lasersights.com
Rusty S
JPP
December 28, 2007, 12:52 PM
IF I got a pair..... they would probably be for the house gun, which is usually the G17. Cost is still an issue right now.... but it does seem to me that at night they would be another tool to have along with the Surefire flashlight.
I'm not God's gift at statistics...... and... I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...... but it would seem to me that If I had to use a weapon in SD that the odds are overwhelming that it would be in low light/no light.
JP
IThunter
December 28, 2007, 12:56 PM
Got a set for Christmas and love them on my Kimber.
jaydubya
December 28, 2007, 08:36 PM
I have them on my Browning Hi Power, 637 snubby and 686+. I practice weekly with the Hi Power and one of the revolvers, firing 25 rounds each with iron sights and 25 with the Crimson Trace lasers. It is immensely satisfying to see a hole appear in the target right where the red dot is. I doubt if they would be effective at noon in the Arizona desert, but if I need to defend myself it will almost certainly be in dim/dark light. There the laser shines.
Cordially, Jack
lurch37
December 28, 2007, 09:00 PM
I always thought they were expensive and of course I had other things to buy, like ammo. Recently though I bought a used RIA 1911 and it came with a set of Crimson Trace grips already on it. I must admit they are very nice to have and wish I would have bought a set a long time ago.
AtticusThraxx
December 29, 2007, 11:32 AM
Got CT for my G-17 for Christmas from eBay for $189.00 NIB. Installation was easy and it sure quickens getting on target. Only problem is with the style. It sits high and widens your grip right under the beaver tail. Takes some getting used to. Overall, if I can get a deal, I'll pick some up for the Sig and others. I like em.
Monkeyleg
December 29, 2007, 07:28 PM
Shameless plug: I sell CT grips on my site. (http://www.gunshopfinder.com/crimson_trace_laser_grips.html)
Right now I only have grips for Glocks and 1911's listed, but I'll be adding more models to the site over the next few days.
BTW, my price on grips for Glocks is $189.95 including shipping, and that's for new-in-the-box grips.
Zach S
December 29, 2007, 11:53 PM
I'm thinking about a set for my AMT.
The cost is the only thing stopping me. They cost more than I paid for the pistol, add the fact that the frame was rebuilt, and I'm topping it off with an AA .22 conversion (if I can find one in stock when I have money), and that would be about an $800 AMT.
Then, if I liked them that much, I'd have to buy more for my other 1911s.
glockman19
December 30, 2007, 02:26 PM
I have the CTC 405's on my S&W 642. It is my carry gun and Ilove them. I can, "shoot from the hip" and hit center mass on the target much easier than without them.
crankshop1000
December 30, 2007, 08:55 PM
I have Lasermax on my 642 and like them. I'd probably like the CT a bit better due to a different activation switch, but the principal is the same.Well worth the price.I got my lasermax for $150. I have another new one for sale for a 642 no hammer for $150. Chuck.
elderboy02
December 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
I have CT laser grips on my G23 carry gun. I love them. I also like how it makes the grip fatter. I have huge hands, so it allows me a less slippery grip.
Pilot
December 31, 2007, 09:05 AM
I have the CTC 405's on my S&W 642.
My wife has this set up and loves it. She bought the 642 with the S&W factory CT grips. I sited in the laser for her at the range and think its a great tool. Don't have one myself, but I do think they are neat to shoot with.
DMK
December 31, 2007, 07:06 PM
I've got Crimson Trace grips on my S&W 642 revolver. I got them used and wasn't sure I'd like them, but I wanted something that would allow me to sight in dim light, since it's my only CCW without night sights (and no easy way to add them).
I was very impressed. 99% of my practice is still with sights. The laser is pretty intuitive if you don't try too hard (sort of like riding a bike or using aperture sights). It certainly suits my purpose. I may get one for another gun.
silverking
December 31, 2007, 07:18 PM
The Crimson Trace grips have been on my wish list since I got my j-frame 642 over a year ago. I qualified at the range for my ccw with this gun and I have since purchased a Stoeger Cougar 8000 in 9mm and a S&W M&P 40c. The 642 is the hardest for me to shoot effectively so I'm sure the laser grips will help a great deal. As stated earlier, the eyes begin to argue with the mind once we reach the "golden" years.
The laser grips are in the big brown truck as I write this.
madcratebuilder
January 1, 2008, 08:30 AM
I have two sets, never had any problems. I think they are great for a HD pistol, they really shine:) in low light, close range situations.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/PICT0001-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/PICT0001Medium-1.jpg
ZeSpectre
January 1, 2008, 10:57 AM
I can't even begin to say how much I'd like a set for my SIG 229 but we're about to buy a house so money is going to be just a -bit- tight for a while <sigh>.
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