Kahr PM9 Poll


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tackleberry45
December 28, 2007, 07:15 PM
Reliability in this pocket piece?

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DHart
December 28, 2007, 10:00 PM
Mine's run like a top from day one. Tough to beat for caliber and size. A good quality gun for sure.

camper
December 28, 2007, 10:12 PM
900 various type rounds through it with not one problem. Great pistol!

echo5tango
December 28, 2007, 10:18 PM
mine has 490 rounds through it with 9 failures, 7 of which from the same ammo (hunting shack commercial reloads). i haven't made a determination yet whether it's reliable or not, but as of right now, i'm leaning toward reliable. only time will tell though ...

The Lone Haranguer
December 28, 2007, 11:04 PM
Mine (purchased March 2006) had serious functioning problems. The firing pin block plunger would hang up on the rear of the frame, causing the slide to not return to battery about 40% of the time. Since A - I generally believe in giving people a second chance, and B - no other gun shares this gun's combination of attributes, I e-mailed Dottie Herold (who seems to be the customer service department) and got a return authorization. They replaced the barrel and recoil spring and it has been fine ever since. It did take nearly a month to get back, and I did pay the initial shipping charge from here to there, although they paid the charge from there to here.

Whenever someone is looking for a full-caliber yet still pocket-sized pistol, I always recommend the PM9.

Ringer
December 28, 2007, 11:52 PM
I carry mine......a lot.

Cowboy2
December 29, 2007, 12:33 AM
400+ rounds run through it both dirty and clean, everything from blazer fmj's to CorBon DPX +P, not a single jam. Accuracy is solid, and recoil isn't bad. As you might guess, I'm very pleased. I carry it anytime a 1911 isn't convenient.

Breakdaddy
December 29, 2007, 12:49 AM
Mines reliable with 600+ rounds through it

speedball
December 29, 2007, 01:00 AM
About 2k through it. Not a single problem even in the 200 rd break in period. Also, most of it has been CCI blazer and not the most disiplened of cleaning regiments. Needless to say, I like it:)

ta4
December 29, 2007, 07:40 AM
It's my favorite gun:). A few thousand rounds of mix-n-match, no issues, accurate. Best pocket piece out there, imho.

Mac10
December 29, 2007, 10:24 AM
Well, mine needed more than the 200 rounds recommended for break in. After that it was reliable.

Double Naught Spy
December 29, 2007, 06:07 PM
Mine is reliable, but after using +P ammo.

SEMO Shooter
December 30, 2007, 03:55 PM
I voted reliable but mine failed to return to battery quite often during the first 200 rounds. I called Kahr customer service and discussed the issue. They sent me a new barrel and recoil spring & guide rod. It has been reliable since then.

imabballer
December 30, 2007, 05:52 PM
I've not had it long, but it's been totally reliable through the 200 round break-in plus about 50 more. The only problem I've had is it doesn't like to hand cycle through some brands of FMJ (it's like the OAL is too long, it jams between the ejector and the side of the barrel upon ejection), but others fine and all HP fine. Doesn't bother me though b/c I won't be carrying FMJ, and even if I was I won't be handcycling it when I need to use it.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/imabballer/100_0195.jpg

tblt
December 30, 2007, 05:54 PM
buy a better gun

mquaack
December 30, 2007, 06:42 PM
Get an M&P .40 cal compact or a Glock 27. You wont question it or have any issues.

imabballer
December 31, 2007, 04:18 AM
Get an M&P .40 cal compact or a Glock 27. You wont question it or have any issues.

I'm sure you're right about the 27's and the m&p's reliability, but for 99% of people including myself you can't fit a 27 or a compact M&P into your pocket comfortably. For many pocket carry is the preferred method of packing, and in that case you need a very diminutive gun that won't print with a good holster, and also will allow you to still be comfortable to do all of your daily activities. I'd much rather have my Kahr in my pocket than any other gun in the world that was too big to carry with me the day I would need it.



(And before I get bashed, I'm not saying that the 27 or the compact M&P are too big to use as your CCW, just that they are too big for most people to pocket carry.)

mquaack
December 31, 2007, 07:43 AM
imabballer: I agree with you the M&P or Glock 27 is too big for pocket carry. A good IWB or belt holster is in order for those.

GVMan
December 31, 2007, 02:45 PM
I ran a poll on this subject a few months ago, check it out here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=266226)

dewidmt
January 1, 2008, 03:27 PM
Bought mine last year at a pawn shop, slightly used with 4 mags. Haven't had a problem with over 500 rounds fired.

orionengnr
January 1, 2008, 09:27 PM
I love my PM9, and carry it about nine months per year (the part of the year we call "summer"). :)

It is far more accurate (in my hands) than any of the j-frames I used to carry, it holds seven rounds vice five, reloads quicker and recoils less (even with 127 gr +p+).

I trust my life to my PM9. I can think of no higher endorsement.

The Lone Haranguer
January 1, 2008, 09:47 PM
It is far more accurate (in my hands) than any of the j-frames I used to carry, it holds seven rounds vice five, reloads quicker and recoils less (even with 127 gr +p+).
Agreed! And the sights you can actually see and the lighter trigger pull contribute to the accuracy.

There is just no other gun on the market with this one's combination of attributes.

romma
January 2, 2008, 09:52 AM
Absolutely reliable and accurate as all heck!

RNB65
January 2, 2008, 10:40 AM
I did not vote in this poll since I don't own a PM9. I do, however, own a P9 and want to make a comment.

The results of this poll are virtually identical to the 4 or 5 previous polls that have asked about poly Kahrs -- 25-30% of the participants reported significant reliability problems. I've said it before, that high a failure rate is simply unacceptable for a premium priced handgun.

I plan to replace my P9 as soon as I find a suitable alternative. I can't wait to get my hands on a Walther PPS so I can see how it feels.
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Breakdaddy
January 2, 2008, 11:22 AM
RNB65, you are assuming a high rate of veracity within the poll. There may be some problems, but a random internet poll doesnt tell us much. Even if the results arent skewed there is not enough anecdotal evidence to suggest whether there was neglect/abuse in certain cases or not. I'm not saying you're wrong, sir, but I am suggesting caution when taking these polls as close to gospel truth.

ABBOBERG
January 4, 2008, 10:42 AM
My PM9 is reliable as a RANGE gun, but not as a concealed carry piece. Mine likes to "rim-lock" hollow point cartridges when the gun gets jostled around while being carried. The good news is that most people who buy this gun use it as a range gun. I have not read one instance where the PM9 was attempted to be fired in a self-defense situation.

nate.45
January 4, 2008, 10:49 AM
It seems reliable and accurate so far 350+ rounds no malfunctions.

Overall it is a nice pistol.

Go to the gunstore and compare it to other sub compacts.

In my opinion it handles better than most of its counterparts.

Rexster
January 4, 2008, 12:10 PM
Tom Givens, of Rangemaster in Memphis, TN, really likes the PM9, and he is NOT bashful about commenting negatively on things that are not reliable. I heard his words myself at the Snubby Summit in December 2005, held in Titusville, FL, where he taught a class that gave a dissenting opinion rearding snubbies for CCW and back-up. I don't want to get more detailed than that, as I don't want to use my imperfect memory to put words in someone's mouth. My wife and I have had good experience with our Kahr K9 pistols, though I carried mine only briefly, and traded it off after finding I could not shoot it both fast and well, as it handled so much differently than my other carry and duty guns at the time, 1911 pistols. Now that I use a SIG P229 DAK with a short trigger for duty, I have thought about revisiting the Kahr for personal CCW.

DHart
January 4, 2008, 12:39 PM
My PM9 is reliable as a RANGE gun, but not as a concealed carry piece. The good news is that most people who buy this gun use it as a range gun. I have not read one instance where the PM9 was attempted to be fired in a self-defense situation.

I could not disagree more. THe PM9 is NOT a range gun (who would choose a PM9 for a range gun???). It is designed strictly as a very small, very light, highly concealable, close-quarters defense gun, period. And as such, they work wonderfully.

BBsteel
January 4, 2008, 03:03 PM
DHart, I was going to reply along the same lines. That gun was meant for carry and I wouldn't consider it a very fun range gun.

DHart
January 4, 2008, 04:20 PM
I might add that I almost always can carry and easily conceal my Glock 23 or Glock 30, so my PM9 is rarely used. But on those rare occasions when I want something really small, really light, with a decent punch, my PM9 is my go-to gun.

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