CMP M1 Garand delivered this morning


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davidjblythe
December 28, 2007, 09:31 PM
Here are the pics

http://picasaweb.google.com/PilotFriend/20071228M1Garand

Feb, 1955 Springfield Armory

From the looks of it, the barrel and receiver are original and have not been tampered with. The rear sight parts are not SA, but all other parts are.

The metal is awesome on this rifle, and only the gas tube needs to be reblued. The thing that brought this rifle down into the Field Grade category is the condition of the wood. I've already stripped the wood down and it looks like it will be restorable. I found some cartouches and the stock (not handguards) went from nearly black to a medium brown color. More stripping and steaming should bring most of the color out of it. Its finish will be golden oak with a flat or semi gloss look. My other rifles have full gloss, but I want this one to be more flat for hunting.

Thank you CMP! 30 days from dropping the order in the mail to getting a knock at the door by FedEx.

Range report tomorrow.

----- Range Report -----

I took it to a 100 yard indoor range today and fired maybe 40 rounds through it. I would have to say that I'm impressed at the firepower this thing can unleash! I achieved 3 to 4 MOA groups without really applying the fundamentals, and was more concerned with losing my brass. I reload for this caliber and it was throwing brass forward of the line, which can never be crossed. Ever. Well, I could wait until they close tonight to go get my 10 cases, but its not worth it.
Also, I wear only the inner ear orange ear plugs, which provide good protection from most of my rifles. Well, I was getting some good ringing from the M1 and decided to stop while I could still hear. More than likely I will not shoot this rifle indoors again, unless someone really wants to see it fired. Because I want to be able to retrieve forward thrown brass, shoot past 100 yards, and keep my hearing, it will be an outdoors rifle from now on.

I would imagine that this rifle is capable of shooting at least 2 MOA groups if I really sit down and take my time. I was shooting Greek surplus from the CMP. I did try some of my new reloads (150 FMJBT, 45.0 gr IMR4895) and they grouped the best. I also noticed different cycling characteristics with the reloads. It didn't seem to kick as bad and the cycling was much smoother and less 'forced' as with the Greek.

The rifle did one thing that I didn't expect to happen as fast as it did: heat up! After 16 shots, the barrel was very hot and I had to wait a second or two before I could pick up the spent brass. None of my other rifles get this hot this fast!

This was a great introduction to the M1 and I really did have a blast. Now I'm going to strip the rifle down and refinish it.

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modifiedbrowning
December 28, 2007, 10:02 PM
Congrats on the new rifle. I really need to get myself a Garand.

offthepaper
December 28, 2007, 10:15 PM
Congrads,
From what I can see, the wood looks very rerstorable. It certainly looks much nicer than the FG I received last year. Mine had the wood (mismatched) chewed up on both sides from hammering tent pegs or whatever the Greeks used them for. Are the current rifles still Greek imports?

There's just really nothing else like a Garand. :cool:

Roswell 1847
December 28, 2007, 10:22 PM
The metal is awesome on this rifle, and only the gas tube needs to be reblued.
The Gas tube is Stainless steel, apparently many were issued without being finished or whatever finish they tried in early production wore off quickly.

rero360
December 28, 2007, 10:34 PM
looks really nice, alot less cosmoline on it than the one I got, solid block with a rifle imbeded in the center. enjoy your new rifle, they're a blast to shoot.

Rule556
December 28, 2007, 10:41 PM
Looks nice. How's the trigger?

I think you'll really like it, they're a blast to shoot.

Make sure to post some new pics when the thing is all cleaned up...

davidjblythe
December 28, 2007, 10:56 PM
I've dry-fired it a few times and it seems great. I don't have a meter but it's not that heavy of a pull with a very crisp break.

langenc
December 28, 2007, 11:16 PM
Nice Merry Christmas.

alemonkey
December 28, 2007, 11:57 PM
Nice, congrats. Hopefully the next C&R I buy will be a Garand. Just need to squirrel away enough money in the sock drawer so the wife doesn't miss it. :)

Swampy
December 29, 2007, 09:33 AM
Quote:
The metal is awesome on this rifle, and only the gas tube needs to be reblued.
The Gas tube is Stainless steel, apparently many were issued without being finished or whatever finish they tried in early production wore off quickly.

Correct on the stainless part, as is the gas cylinder lock and lock screw.

All stainless M1 parts were chemically blackened when new (NOT blued or parkerized, neither of which work with stainless.). Various processes were used over the production period, some lasted better under normal wear than others. It's common to see stainless parts with little or no finish remaining.

Today the most effective means of re-blackening stainless M1 parts is baked on black engine paint. Looks good, works well.....

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever

cracked butt
December 29, 2007, 09:56 AM
Nice rifle!

Thank you CMP! 30 days from dropping the order in the mail to getting a knock at the door by FedEx.

Not bad, I had to wait about 3 months to get mine.

GarandOwner
December 29, 2007, 02:20 PM
Everytime someone gets a Garand, an angel gets its wings :D

ScottsGT
December 29, 2007, 03:22 PM
Everytime someone gets a Garand, an angel gets its wings

Well, some angel got more than wings this Christmas! A close friend presented me with a CMP Special Grade Garand for my Birthday (Dec. 24th):neener:
Now in return, I have to present to him a really nice CMP Garand that I rebuild/rebarrled and had reparkerized by Springfield Armory Inc. He knew I wanted a nice "safe queen-as issued" Garand, while I did a really nice BLO polish job on the stock. I just wanted to swap stocks, and he offered up the entire rifle as a trade and "Happy Birthday". Just got finished installing the M1907 leather sling.

dmftoy1
December 29, 2007, 04:57 PM
Congrats on the new toy! I have only had mine out twice since I got it in Mid-November and it's calling my name. I'm sitting here at the loading bench as I type this checking out 168 grain loads for Hornady's BTHP so I'm curious how you do with your reloading efforts!


Have a good one,
Dave

ma96782
December 29, 2007, 05:18 PM
Problems w/ accuracy....

http://battlerifles.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26735

Aloha, Mark

Mr White
December 29, 2007, 07:30 PM
Everytime someone gets a Garand, an angel gets its wings
No, Every time someone gets a Garand, Jesus smiles and lets a puppy and a kitten live.

NAK
December 29, 2007, 07:41 PM
Great looking rifle. I'm jealous davidjbly, but your 30 day turn around also gives me hope.

CMP received my order on Dec 10. The FedEx man is supposed to visit me Monday, but it is just the Greek ammo I ordered at the same time.

Black Adder LXX
December 29, 2007, 09:36 PM
Sweet. Man I'm jealous...

KODB
December 29, 2007, 10:24 PM
there will be more coming to your doorstep; welcome to garanditis

Regards,
Bob

Detachment Charlie
December 30, 2007, 12:03 AM
davidjblythe,
I hate you.
I also hate my neighbor who just got a Screaming Yellow Corvette. My CMP order for a Service Grade has been pending since 10/31/07.:cuss:

another okie
December 30, 2007, 11:47 AM
I love mine, and it's pretty accurate. The sights are great.

Remember to stick to fairly mild loads. Mine is happiest with 150 grain loads towars the bottom end of the chart. Those full power modern hunting loads can shorten the life of the operating rod.

One of my favorite parts of owning one is saying to people, "The government wants me to have this gun! They sold it to me!"

Swampy
December 31, 2007, 09:41 AM
Remember to stick to fairly mild loads. Mine is happiest with 150 grain loads towars the bottom end of the chart. Those full power modern hunting loads can shorten the life of the operating rod.

As long as you load within the two "M1 rifle gas system safe load rules" handed down by the techies of Springfield Armory (the REAL one) to civilian M1 shooters back in the 50's you will be fine.....

The "M1 rifle gas system safe load rules" are:

1) NEVER shoot bullets HEAVIER than 180 grains
2) NEVER shoot powder that is SLOWER than IMR-4320

Observing BOTH of these rules will keep the gas port pressure below the max design level for the M1 rifle.

Note: It does not matter how HOT the load is.... As long as it is within safe levels for the chamber end, i.e. published data, and the two above rules are met, the gas port pressure will be OK. Example: With 4895 and a 168 grain bullet you cannot load enough powder to harm the gas system without FIRST going beyond what is safe at the chamber end. Just observe normal load data and keep watch for pressure signs on the brass and the gas system will be fine.

Best to all,
Swampy

Garands forever

alemonkey
December 31, 2007, 10:01 AM
Has anyone tried an adjustable gas plug like the one from Fulton Armory? When I finally get around to getting an M1 some day I'd like to try one of these so I don't have to worry if I mix up ammo between my Savage and the Garand.

Swampy
December 31, 2007, 10:16 AM
Has anyone tried an adjustable gas plug like the one from Fulton Armory? When I finally get around to getting an M1 some day I'd like to try one of these so I don't have to worry if I mix up ammo between my Savage and the Garand.

monkey,

Yes, both the Schuster and McCann ported gas lock screws work as advertised... BUT, it's not so simple as just "install and then everything is OK after that".....

Each time you change type or lots of commercial ammo you must do a setup procedure that takes several rounds of ammo. This to make sure you have the correct port adjustment for the pressure curve of what you are now shooting. As long as you continue to shoot the same lot of the same load you are fine.... change loads or lots, do a new setup regimen.

Best,
Swampy

Garands forever

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