Anti-gun senator victim of carjacking


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Surefire
December 29, 2007, 09:11 PM
Luckily, no one got hurt.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/29/BANLU6QS3.DTL

Wonder if this incident will make Senator Perata re-think his position on guns (I doubt it, but you never know).

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Schmidlin
December 29, 2007, 09:19 PM
Something similar happened in Ohio when the state senate was debating CCW. A anti CCW senator was walking home and got followed. He got jumped and roughed up pretty bad. Only thing with him is he wish he had voted the other way on the bill.

So it changed him.

Look and Elizabeth Dole. She was a huge anti gun congress woman, then Colt or Ruger ( cant remember which) invited her into their factory and gave her some basic safety stuff and she changed into one of the biggest anti-gun control politicians we have. She is now for gun education not gun control.

Surefire
December 29, 2007, 09:21 PM
I've seen anti-gun people change to pro-gun when crime hits them.

I've also seen them get even more anti-gun when crime hits them.

It seems to be a 50-50 coin flip.

Schmidlin
December 29, 2007, 09:22 PM
It just depends on how they take the ordeal. And half the time they are un-educated and are just spouting off stats and "facts" they hear.

papabear
December 29, 2007, 09:25 PM
I hope this guy turns to the Constitution side.

justsurvivingincalifornia
December 30, 2007, 12:30 AM
It seems as though he's not so anti-gun afterall. Apparently, he is pro-gun and even has his own which he carries with him to protect himself and his family - he just doesn't believe in your right to do the same.
Oakland police say a gun-wielding man has robbed California Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata of his government-issue car.
The Oakland Democrat was not harmed in the Saturday afternoon carjacking. Perata's spokeswoman says he got out of the car when the robber tapped on the window of his red Dodge Charger with a gun. The senator was waiting at a red light at 51st Street and Shattuck Avenue in North Oakland at about 1:45 p.m.
Police say a second man drove the robber to the intersection in a two-door gold Chevrolet Camaro that also was stolen.

Surefire
December 30, 2007, 01:11 AM
We have are answer...

On KTVU TV, Perata said:

"There are just too many d@mn guns out there..." --> This leopard isn't changing its spots.

Look for him to sponsor a whole bunch more gun control given this incident that affected him.

I'm sure the thugs that attacked him will gladly surrender their guns once he supports more anti-gun laws.

Afterall, they already stole two cars, committed a carjacking, and look like nice decent law abiding folks.

Claude Clay
December 30, 2007, 01:24 AM
WHY does the tax-payer support HIS car.....not a "green' vehicle but rather a fancy expensive dodge charger with 22" rims..PIGS at the trough . jacked..he has been doing it to us for a l o n g time. sorry to rant, but on the taxpayers tab, he ought to be driving a government compact or midsize or indeed, buy it himself ( WE certainly subsidize him enough ).
flip side....now he will insist he NEEDS a driver....of course WE will pay for the state trooper. It just doesn't end..........

+1 2sigs..govt auto, give them a corvair after we run out of ramblers and pinto's

2sigs
December 30, 2007, 01:24 AM
"There are just too many d@mn guns out there..."

I believe so too.. so send them to me and I'll make sure their safe and hurt no law abiding citizens. :D

"he ought to be driving a government compact or midsize or indeed, buy it himself "
Yeah what ever happened to K cars LOL

-2sigs

The comments posted here are strictly parody...unless you believe me :evil:

Leanwolf
December 30, 2007, 01:26 AM
"I've also seen them get even more anti-gun when crime hits them."

That's Perata, for sure. He's an extremely left wing Democrat and a raving hypocrite. He has a CCW but as mentioned above, he feels only his life is worth protecting. The lives of us worker peasants are worthless.

L.W.

atek3
December 30, 2007, 10:56 AM
Besides his CCW, he also has a registered Colt AR-15 Sporter in the good state of california. So he's definately not "anti-gun", he's "anti-peons owning guns"

atek3

Pilgrim
December 30, 2007, 11:05 AM
When asked if he isn't being a bit two-faced about his gun ownership and his CCW, Perata answers that he needs the CCW to protect himself from the threats he has received from gun nuts. Strangely, there have been no prosecutions of gun nuts who have 'threatened' him.

Pilgrim

MD_Willington
December 30, 2007, 11:12 AM
Clearly automobiles are too dangerous... we need sensible restrictions placed on automobiles...

Everyone will take their automobiles to a local buy back where they will be issued a Trabant by the Department of Transport.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Capitol_Trabi.jpg

willbrink
December 30, 2007, 11:13 AM
Well you know the old joke: a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.

willbrink
December 30, 2007, 11:17 AM
"He has a CCW but as mentioned above, he feels only his life is worth protecting. "

I am sure some place it exists, but is there a list of anti gun politicians who have a CCW? I think that's a list that should be used more often. Link anyone?

"Politicians who think their life is more important than yours" followed by all the names is a very powerful statement no doubt.

papajohn
December 30, 2007, 11:18 AM
Sounds to me like he's more of a nut than the gun-nuts. This whole Elitism thing just makes me want to puke. It's like when The Hildebeast was heard to say, "We're the President and we know what's best for this country." The arrogance is just off the charts.

And where was this guy's gun when he got jacked? He needs a permit but doesn't have the sense to carry? What a maroon.

PJ

OAKTOWN
December 30, 2007, 12:02 PM
This one cracked me up. The place where he got jacked a little ways up from my old neighborhood, between Berkeley and Oakland. It's actually nicer than most of Oakland, trouble is the savages from West and North Oakland go there due to the concentration of stupid white people with stuff to steal. This is what you get when you've got a half staffed police force, closed crime lab and shut down jail. Plus a mayor that thinks the citizens don't want more cops.

CNYCacher
December 30, 2007, 12:24 PM
When asked if he isn't being a bit two-faced about his gun ownership and his CCW, Perata answers that he needs the CCW to protect himself from the threats he has received from gun nuts.

Interestingly, gun nuts need their guns to protect themselves from the threats they have received from politicians.

Surefire
December 30, 2007, 12:26 PM
Besides his CCW, he also has a registered Colt AR-15 Sporter in the good state of california. So he's definately not "anti-gun", he's "anti-peons owning guns"

I knew he had a CCW....

The AR-15 is a shocker though.

Elitism is showing its ugly head I think.

BlazingAngel01
December 30, 2007, 12:32 PM
But then the man began pulling a mask over his nose and pointed an automatic handgun at him

Right........:scrutiny:

Geno
December 30, 2007, 12:32 PM
Guns aren't the problem...cars with purdy wheels are. If he had been driving a Yugo, he would have been fine. That's called "life in the fast-lane"...snicker, snicker.

Ya gotta love it when the bad guy wins; the "good" guy loses, and the danged fool still can't see the light of day. :neener:

atek3
December 30, 2007, 01:17 PM
51st and shattuck... i used to live in that neighborhood... thankfully CCW permits weren't available to the lumpenmensch when I lived there.

atek3

LegalAlien
December 30, 2007, 01:22 PM
I just sent the following email to senator Perata:-

Dear sir,
I am a FL resident and a pro 2nd Amendment and fire arm ownership supporter.
I read with interest about your recent car jacking incident and also read some additional comments about your position on fire arm ownership that I found quite intriguing and to say the least, somewhat confusing.
From what I have read, and correct me if I am wrong, as a Democratic party politician, you are a STRONG supporter of much stricter fire arm control measures and that you also supported the Assault rifle ban legislation during the early '90's.
On the other hand, however, I also read, and feel free to correct me if I wrong again, that you have a permit to carry a concealed fire arm. With that I would have to assume that you therefore also own at least one concealable fire arm. Furthermore, I am led to believe that you are also the proud owner of a Colt AR-15 Sporter assault rifle.
My questions to you sir, are:-
- How do you reconcile these two totally conflicting pieces of information?
- How can you be a politician that strongly supports fire arm control and at the same time own presumably multiple fire arms? I would guess you own at least two - a concealable hand gun and an assault rifle.
- Does your political party know that you are directly in conflict with the party line on fire arm ownership?
- How do you justify your fire arm ownership, but at the same time want to remove and/or limit fire arm ownership for law abiding citizens?
- Do you really believe that stricter fire arm control legislation will reduce violent crime? I am sure you will agree with me, that criminals, by intent, do not concern themselves with any laws and would therefore not even blink an eye at stricter fire arm legislation.
- Would you be prepared to give up the fire arms that you currently own, should the government at some point in time decide to 'confiscate' all fire arms for our own safety?
- Or, do you believe that certain people should be entitled to own fire arms, but not the 'general populace'?
- Have you seen any statistics regarding the increase in violent crime in countries where fire arm ownership has been severely limited? Case in point here is South Africa. Are you aware of the explosion in violent crimes in that country since the introduction of their 'Gun Free South Africa" legislation?
I am awaiting your aswers with bated breath
Sincerely
Cxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx
Legal permanent FL resident, ex South African citizen and proud supporter of the USA Constitution

Feel free to email him at senator.perata@sen.ca.gov

Mannlicher
December 30, 2007, 02:55 PM
since the senator won't re think his position on guns, maybe this could be chalked up to a missed opportunity to thin out the opposition. :rolleyes:

statelineblues
December 30, 2007, 03:57 PM
he ought to be driving a government compact or midsize

Yeah what ever happened to K cars

I vote for a 1974 AMC Pacer - painted pink...

NG VI
December 30, 2007, 04:16 PM
what a tool, the elitism is really being spread on thicker and thicker, 'only police need guns, only the military needs guns, why would anyone need a gun, what do you need a gun that isn't deer rifle for anyway, many people seem to be pretty wrapped up in what everyone else needs that they don't recognize why i own guns, 'cause I want to! when TF did need ever become a part of property ownership?

sniper5
December 30, 2007, 07:35 PM
I'm not sure if it's current, but I recall reading somewhere that Perata had his CCW revoked or was refused a reissue by the sherriff's dept after the AWB was signed. The sheriff was supposedly pro-gun. I imagine someone who needed their back scratched handed him one later. I haven't bothered checking the accuracy of that because frankly I don't have a lot of interest in dwelling on the hopeless loser--er, sorry, I mean the distinguished gentleman.

The good news is, it's a big state, I live in the central valley, and the people around here view him much like most of the members of this forum.

Surefire
December 30, 2007, 08:31 PM
I just heard on TV that he got 24/7 security (police and CHP) looking out after him now.

:barf:

His life is much more valuable than the other thousands of people in Oakland that the police/chp are sworn to protect.

Elitism at its best once again.

Intrepid Dad
December 30, 2007, 08:52 PM
what a tool, the elitism is really being spread on thicker and thicker, 'only police need guns, only the military needs guns, why would anyone need a gun, what do you need a gun that isn't deer rifle for anyway, many people seem to be pretty wrapped up in what everyone else needs that they don't recognize why i own guns, 'cause I want to! when TF did need ever become a part of property ownership?

"From each according to their abilities; to each according to their needs." - From the Democratic party platform :barf:

gunsmith
December 30, 2007, 09:28 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/30/BAOSU71JB.DTL

Richmond police have found the car that was carjacked at gunpoint from State Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata in North Oakland, authorities said today.

The red 2006 Dodge Charger was found near the corner of Wiswall and Colette drives near the Hilltop Mall in Richmond at about 11 p.m. Saturday, nine hours after the carjacking, police said. The car will be processed for evidence.

Told about the recovery of the car, Perata, 62, said today that he was heartened that no one was hurt. "The car is immaterial to me," said the Oakland Democrat, whose home was guarded by the California Highway Patrol and police overnight.

He joked, "At least it was found in my district."

Perata was unharmed after he was accosted by a gunman at 51st Street and Shattuck Avenue in North Oakland at about 1:45 p.m. Saturday.

Perata said he was waiting for the light to change when, out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a man walking up to him. The senator, who has campaigned against assault weapons and crime, said he mistook the man for a panhandler or window washer at first.

But then the man began pulling a mask over his nose and pointed an automatic handgun at him "gangster style" - holding it sideways - before tapping it on his window and bellowing at him, "Get out of the m- car."

Perata said he told the man, "I'm outta here" and jumped out of the car, which police say may have been targeted for its 22-inch rims. The man got inside and took off in the car, which also had Perata's cell phone in it. The carjacker was followed by an accomplice in a gold 2000 Chevrolet Camaro that was stolen in San Leandro on Friday in an incident in which shots were fired, authorities said.

Oakland police Lt. Lawrence Green said police do not believe the assailants had recognized Perata on Saturday. The senator told officers that he believed he saw the men at a Union 76 gas station minutes earlier on Broadway Terrace, so it was possible that they followed him to 51st and Shattuck before carjacking him, Green said.

Perata said he was preparing to get onto the freeway when he was carjacked while he was the third car waiting at the red light. The gunman was no more than 3 feet away, and at one point, Perata said, he feared that if the assailant panicked and fired a round while fumbling to get his mask over his face, "that would have been the end of me."

Perata said today that he no longer carries a concealed-weapons permit and there was no gun in his state car.

Perata said he never had the permit renewed when it expired two years ago because he "just never had the opportunity to re-qualify" at a gun range. Perata obtained the permit out of security concerns stemming from his work regulating firearms.

E-mail Henry K. Lee at hlee@sfchronicle.com.

Surefire
December 30, 2007, 10:04 PM
I bet carjackings have gone done in states that declare "open season" on anyone attempting to carjack.

papajohn
December 30, 2007, 10:41 PM
"Perata obtained the permit out of security concerns stemming from his work regulating firearms."

Who does this elitist Jerk think he is, the local chapter of the ATF?

PJ

Autolycus
December 30, 2007, 10:46 PM
I hate hypocrisy like this.

Big Boomer
December 31, 2007, 12:30 AM
I know a great place where there are absolutely NO guns! Send him to the local federal pen. Throw him out in the main yard, I am SURE he would be completely safe there, I mean with no guns, or other weapons and all.

No drugs, or knives, or bats, and police (guards) everywhere!

Surefire
December 31, 2007, 12:48 AM
I know a great place where there are absolutely NO guns! Send him to the local federal pen. Throw him out in the main yard, I am SURE he would be completely safe there, I mean with no guns, or other weapons and all.

No drugs, or knives, or bats, and police (guards) everywhere!

... and "Bubba" may take a liking to him... :D

romma
December 31, 2007, 09:38 AM
Ahh, I love the smell of hipocracy in the morning!

Especially when it backfires...

Don't get me wrong, I don't wish a carjackin' on anyone. But if this Senator is truly Anti-Gun, and truly has a permit to carry, then shame on him if he wasn't... Lucky he wasn't killed in the process.

Gunnerpalace
December 31, 2007, 09:44 AM
"automatic handgun"

Wow criminals are using Glock 18's now?

230RN
December 31, 2007, 03:27 PM
I guess that hypocrite gets a lot of practice crossing his fingers.

JP from Phoenix
December 31, 2007, 05:43 PM
my question was why is this guy sliding around north oakland in a dodge charger with 22s?

Surefire
December 31, 2007, 05:47 PM
my question was why is this guy sliding around north oakland in a dodge charger with 22s?

He's getting his "pimp on"... at the expense of the taxpayers.

hksw
December 31, 2007, 06:18 PM
"The car is immaterial to me," said the Oakland Democrat, whose home was guarded by the California Highway Patrol and police overnight.

OF COURSE it's immaterial to him. IT'S NOT HIS CAR. IT'S THE STATE'S (i.e., the public's.)

doc2rn
December 31, 2007, 10:14 PM
Must be nice to roll on the sweat of someone else's brow. I hope he has to turn it back in and get a 3 cyl GEO.

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