Hornady titanium nitride die ?


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joneb
January 1, 2008, 09:10 PM
So are they any good ? I am looking for a die set to load 9x18 Makarov and a gun shop in town has a three piece set of Hornady dies with a titanium nitride coating that I assume is just the sizer/decapping die for $40 ? My other straight wall dies are RCBS carbide which I am very happy with, but the carbide RCBS die set for the 9x18 Mak is $60+ :confused:

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SASS#23149
January 1, 2008, 09:35 PM
I'v'e used those dies and think they are fine.I happen to like the friction adjustment on the seater die.Some folks would not as it's not real postive,but for plinking and cowboy loads it's great.No wrenches. needed.:)

Bowfishrp
January 1, 2008, 09:55 PM
I prefer them over any others I have tried.

Pumpkinheaver
January 1, 2008, 10:09 PM
I have these dies in .357 and they work just as well as other carbide die sets I have. I'd buy them if you can save $20 by doing so.

Spartacus451
January 1, 2008, 10:13 PM
I happen to like the friction adjustment on the seater die.Some folks would not as it's not real postive,but for plinking and cowboy loads it's great.No wrenches.
Friction adjustment? I am not sure what you are talking about? I thought you could adjust crimp and seating depth. There is something else?

scrat
January 1, 2008, 10:47 PM
titanium nitride. What would be better this or a carbide die. i have used titanium drill bits and carbide. I have broked titanium bits to. So without being an expert i would think the carbide is stronger. Whats the Diff

BigJakeJ1s
January 2, 2008, 09:33 PM
Properly done, TiN is harder, and has a lower coefficient of friction than carbide. Redding uses Titanium carbide, which is better than Tungsten Carbide in other carbide dies, due to the smaller, smoother grain structure which allows better polishing for less friction. Either will outlast most non-commercial reloaders easily if kept clean.

I use Hornady dies and like them a lot. For lead bullets, their seating die is the only one that combines a sliding alignment sleeve, optional micrometer adjustment, and the ability to disassemble on-press for cleaning without affecting seat or crimp settings, not to mention it can crimp too (no other pistol sliding-sleeve seater die does that). Lubed lead bullets tend to gunk up seater dies, requiring cleaning more often than with jacketed/plated bullets.

As for the friction adjustment, the lock nut on the seater screw (standard one, not the micrometer screw) has a rubber/fiber washer underneath it that lets you adjust the friction on the seating adjustment to your preference. Works really nice.

Andy

Walkalong
January 2, 2008, 10:28 PM
The Hornady 9MM nitride sizer that came with my Projector years ago wore out in less than 2000 rounds. The nitride coating was mostly gone. I bought a Lee carbide sizer which is still going strong. Maybe they are made better today or maybe I just got a bad one, but I will never have another.

Their pistol seater dies work very well though.

ReloaderFred
January 2, 2008, 10:49 PM
The only Hornady TiN die I have is a 9mm that I bought a long time ago. It scrapes brass from the case and leaves a small, sharp ridge of raised brass where it stops sizing. I sent it back to Hornady and they sent me someone else's 9mm die, that they had used a pair of pliers on, which is something I hate with a passion. Anyway, the die is unused and I won't buy another one, since it ruins the brass and Hornady didn't fix it.

I also have a Redding 10mm TC die that the sizing ring popped out of the first time I used it. Sent it back to Redding and they fixed it. Personally, I can't tell the difference in use between the TC die from Redding and the Tungstun Carbide dies from the other manufacturers.

I have Carbide dies from Lyman, Lee, RCBS, Redding and Dillon. They all work, so get whatever brand you like.

Hope this helps.

Fred

joneb
January 2, 2008, 11:01 PM
Thank you all for your input, I will pass on the Hornady TiN dies and go with what I know works :)

Walkalong
January 3, 2008, 08:20 AM
I also have a Redding 10mm TC die that the sizing ring popped out of the first time I used it. Sent it back to Redding and they fixed it.
Two sizers for me. Yea, they will fix/replace them, but I never have had that trouble with other carbide sizers. I believe they are a tiny bit slicker, but other than that I won't get another one.

Bronson7
January 3, 2008, 10:54 AM
I won't use anything but Hornady dies. The sizer seems to size down a bit more than others I've tried, giving excellent case neck tension. The seating die is by far the best I've ever used, giving extremely concentric rounds. Yep, I'm a New Dimension fan.
Bronson7

BigJakeJ1s
January 3, 2008, 10:53 PM
I've heard several times that Hornady's early attempts at TiN dies were spotty on quality. Have not heard of this problem with recently manufactured dies. I have a couple thousand rounds through my 454 sizer die (45 colt) with no problems; still slick as a whistle.

Truth be known, there's not a lot of difference in different brands of carbide/TiN pistol sizer dies. The differentiation is in the seating dies.

Andy

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