I need tips on rapid firing Glocks


January 1, 2008, 09:30 PM
I have been practicing shooting the Glock 21 on rapid fire, a few buddies of mine at the range always talk about "short stroking" the trigger. After trying it awhile I found I can do it on mild loads, but I am still learning. Does anyone have any pointers? I am using the Weaver stance and after it fires I am barely releasing the trigger then pulling it again. Maybe around a 1/4" or so. I try to keep downward pressure on my arms and upper body to help control the recoil. The best group I have is about 3" in a 6 round group at 7 yards. I dont have a timer, but by guessing its a little over 1 seconds time. I am shooting 230 gr. Winchester JHP's. I have never had any formal training, just alot of reading. Is there a better stance out there?

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January 2, 2008, 03:22 AM
I shoot .45 ACP in a 1911, and one thing I've found is that using an Isosceles stance greatly enhances both my comfort while shooting, as well as my accuracy. Part of what I found to be the problem, was that I'm a fairly beefy fella (though quickly slimming down thanks to weight watchers, lol) and due to my bodyshape, a Weaver type stance was forcing me to adopt an unusual posture, thus tiring me out faster.

Using the Isosceles stance, I was able to increase the overall stability of my "shooting platform" as it were, while also providing a more natural (for me) sight picture technique (straight towards target, vs. somewhat sideways to the target).

As for "short stroking" the trigger, I'm not familiar with that technique so can't comment - but definetly try some different stances and see what works best. I was quite suprised how much of a difference changing to Isosceles made in my range trips.

Tin Gizel
January 2, 2008, 11:14 AM
TRIGGER RESET - is probably what you mean by 'short stroking'

Fire the gun, hold the trigger back keeping constant contact and release till you hear/feel the click then pull again.

Serves 2 purposes....shortens the trigger pull length by more than half and reduces the trigger pull by almost half.

Don't worry about your stance. Don't worry about how fast either. You should be shooting fist sized groups regardless of distance. If you aren't getting all your shots in a fist sized group, you're shooting too fast.

January 2, 2008, 11:55 AM
You can practice the reset with an unloaded gun.

Check to see if firearm is unloaded.

Check again.

Aim in a safe direction dryfire, do not release the trigger.

Now pull the slide back like you are chambering a round (take this time to recheck that firearm is not loaded).

Now slowly release the trigger until you hear it click, it is reset. You can dry fire again. Repeat as necessary.

January 2, 2008, 01:51 PM
Good direction guys, I appreciate it. BTW, I timed myself at lunch today...boy was I wrong on the whole 1 second thing!! More like 2.4 seconds! Those guys at the range and on TV sure make it look easy. Dang, I guess I get to keep shooting and improve! Im so used to 1911's and revolvers with good triggers that I have been spoiled on 2 pounds or less.

January 2, 2008, 02:14 PM
welcome to thr.

i use the high thumbs, or thumbs foward grip which is taught at tdi ohio. i use an isocelies stance. you want to lock your non dominent wrist out, putting all your bones in alignment which will allow you to control the recoil better than any other hold. i wish that i could show you in person it wold be so much easier.

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