CZ 75b or BD


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Spyvie
January 2, 2008, 11:31 AM
After hearing so much good stuff about them here and elsewhere, I've decided I want to buy a CZ75. I really want a BD with a decocker but Sportsman's Warehouse has 75Bs in stock for $419, and I cant find a BD anywhere locally at any price.

The pistol would never be carried cocked and locked... I regularly practice DA shooting and am comfortable and reasonably accurate with DA pull for a first shot. You can call me a girly man if you must, but I'm a little scared of a cocked hammer when I have no target acquired, or especially when the gun is just sitting in my glove box.

My question is about CZ75 operation. Can a round be chambered with the safety on? If it can will the hammer be cocked afterwards? Or does it work like a PPK, where the hammer stays down after racking the slide with the safety on? How hard is it to let the hammer down softly with a round chambered?

Please forgive my ignorance... I haven't had get a chance to handle the 75B yet.

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Breakdaddy
January 2, 2008, 11:37 AM
I can let the hammer down on my 75b with little problem. The safety can only be engaged while the hammer is cocked but there is a firing pin safety mechanism that helps prevent discharging the firearm without a pull of the trigger. A round can not be chambered with the safety engaged, the slide is locked.

Pilot
January 2, 2008, 11:38 AM
My question is about CZ75 operation. Can a round be chambered with the safety on? If it can will the hammer be cocked afterwards? Or does it work like a PPK, where the hammer stays down after racking the slide with the safety on. How hard is it to let the hammer down softly with a round chambered?

I have a CZ-75B with the traditional safety, and the CZ-75D PCR with the decocker. You can not engage the safety on the 75B with the hammer down, its only used for cocked and locked. I carry the 75B with the hammer down. I feel this is safe due to it being double action on the first shoot. Its just like carrying a revolver at this point. I can safely decock the 75B with a round in the chamber. I always point it in a safe direction prior to manually decocking. If you are uncomfortable with that, remove the magazine and rack the slide to eject the chambered round.

Spyvie
January 2, 2008, 11:45 AM
Thanks for the quick replies.

Hey Pilot, I'm in the Denver area right now, and would be willing to drive anywhere on the front range for CZ75 with a decocker at a decent price. Are you aware of any gun shops that have this gun in stock?

tinygnat219
January 2, 2008, 12:02 PM
I have the CZ75BD. What I like is I can carry one in the chamber with the hammer at half cock (which is where the Decocker drops the hammer). If you have a chance to pick one up, go for it.

armoredman
January 2, 2008, 12:03 PM
Contact CZ-USA directly, at 1-800-955-4486, and ask them where an authorized dealer in your area is, and which distributer can supply them with a BD.

Calhoun
January 2, 2008, 12:13 PM
It isn't hard to decock a CZ75B, even without a decocker. Obviously you have to be careful about it, as with any firearm manipulations, but it isn't any more dangerous than decocking a revolver. The manual of the CZ75 shows how to do this using both hands, but I find that to be a little more difficult than using one hand. You should try it with the standard 75B at your dealer.

Also, you might check out the CZ Forum Classifides, as well as the listings here. I think I saw a CZ75BD listed at one of those reciently

jlbraun
January 2, 2008, 12:20 PM
Don't forget that the CZ75 can take the excellent .22LR slide called the Kadet.

Pilot
January 2, 2008, 02:18 PM
Spyvie,

I haven't been to either of these shops for a while, but they do carry CZ's. You might want to give them a call and ask.

http://www.daves-guns.com/

http://www.firinglineonline.com/

I like the traditional safety of the 75B and 75B compact, but I carry and rave about the lighter, alloy 75D PCR which has the decocker and I think is a great all around pistol.

Rob1035
January 2, 2008, 07:36 PM
Since I carry a P01, I'm looking to buy a 75BD at some point. I like the decocker versions, and for IDPA, I'd rather shoot a decocker for SSP than a cocked/locked for ESP, and I do not want to manually lower the hammer in a competion setting. Just my feeling on that.

1SOW
January 2, 2008, 11:40 PM
I bought my first CZ a 75B at Sportsmans Warehouse several months ago.

They pulled me in with an additional 5% military (active or retired) discount.

LOOOoong DA first round, but you can carry at 1/2 cock and the firing pin is still disengaged until the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear.
At 1/2 cock the trigger is good. It's easy to shoot well and it's accurate.

CZForum.com has some good info from DIY trigger jobs to parts interchangeabilty. You can also get questions answered by some CZ heavy hitters.

Chindo18Z
January 3, 2008, 02:31 AM
Spyvie: Specialty Sports, Colorado Springs has the 75BD model in stock (today)...about $469 before tax as I recall.

Specialty Sports, Jeff 3735 Drennan Rd. Colorado Springs CO 80910, (719) 391-2556. SE side of town (near airport), about 1/2 mile east of N-S Academy Drive. Hands down, the largest firearms store in the Springs...

Navy87Guy
January 3, 2008, 05:13 PM
Also, you might check out the CZ Forum Classifides, as well as the listings here. I think I saw a CZ75BD listed at one of those reciently
That would be mine (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=317325) -- I have a 75BD and an SP-01 Tactical. I don't really need both.

Personally, I prefer pistols without manual safeties which is why I got the BD. I had a trigger job done on it, replaced the hammer spring and it's a very smooth pistol now. The BD's are trickier to work on than a standard 75B, so you may have a hard time finding a local smith who will do it. It's worth the effort, though!

Jim

CZF
January 3, 2008, 09:17 PM
You are getting some good advice here. For a person as yourself new to CZs
or any DA/SA semi auto. Go with the BD. Safety should always be paramount
when making any gun purchase, CZ or not.

The Lone Haranguer
January 3, 2008, 09:48 PM
If you don't like the "cocked and locked" option and are going to carry DA anyway, decocker models start the trigger stroke with the hammer already at a "one-third-cock" position, shortening the trigger reach and stroke.

DouglasW
January 3, 2008, 09:58 PM
Hey Pilot, I'm in the Denver area right now, and would be willing to drive anywhere on the front range for CZ75 with a decocker at a decent price. Are you aware of any gun shops that have this gun in stock?

Spyvie,

I haven't been to either of these shops for a while, but they do carry CZ's. You might want to give them a call and ask.

http://www.daves-guns.com/

http://www.firinglineonline.com/

Dave's Guns on S. Parker closed its doors a couple months back. :(

I was in the The Firing Line on S. Potomac in Aurora yesterday, and I'm pretty sure they had a 75b and a P-01 (http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/cz_0620/) (which has a decocker similar to the 75bd, but features a compact alloy frame and a light rail) in their 9mm case. Bottom shelf, all the way on the right...

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/GAP01_0620A.jpg

If you're thinking about carrying, the P-01 would probably conceal more easily than the full-size 75b. In either case, you might swing by the Firing Line to fondle both. I'd recommend calling 'em to double-check before driving over: 303.363.0041. Sorry I don't remember the prices...

A CZ PCR was my first semi-auto and, coming from revolvers, I found the decocker a reassuring safety feature.

Good luck.

robctwo
January 4, 2008, 01:13 AM
I bought the 75BD back in 2002. Put a Kadet Kit on it right away and had a great combo 9mm/22 for around $650. That combo will cost a bit more today. I own the P-01 as well. Great gun. Lighter and easier to conceal. Not as much fun for extended range sessions.

chris in va
January 4, 2008, 04:19 AM
Yup, I also have a Kadet. Took it one step further and had it drilled/tapped for a Weaver mount and added a red dot. Some day I want to add a supressor to it.

Now *thats* some fun shooting right there! Heck, I shoot that thing more than all my other firearms combined. Can't beat $10 for 550 rounds.

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