Is there a difference S&W M&P or just a smith auto


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tblt
January 2, 2008, 08:33 PM
Most people love the M&P yet I heve herd many bad things about smith auto's expecially the sigma.Is there a big difference?Will Smith really fix anything that breaks for the life of the gun?

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Hoppy590
January 2, 2008, 08:46 PM
the first Sigma was smiths attempt at the polymer pistol. the early models were less than perfect. the newest models are shunned due to the Sigma's Stigma. also they are an economy pistol. perfectly functional, but for 250$ with 4 mags dont expect much. glock clone, no external safety

the new M&P is better built. external safety. better feel in my opinion. its also close to double the Sigma's price.

smith also maked a few other polymer and a large number of metal frame autos.

some of these were not so warmly welcomed, some are classics with proud historys, such as the Model 59, and thier .22 the Model 41

legion3
January 2, 2008, 08:49 PM
The M&P is not a Sigma..
3rd Generation Smiths are not sigma's.
From what some have said new sigma's are not the old sigma's.

The Sigma is what it is a solid, inexpensive gun with a long (awful?) Trigger pull.

M&P is a totally different gun with a better triggerpull.

For the price a sigma is an OK gun.

Smith's warranty is good...

None of my Smith's have ever needed work so I have never had to test their service pledge.

Hoppy590
January 2, 2008, 09:01 PM
double tap

possum
January 2, 2008, 09:25 PM
i have ever liked smith autos until the m7p came out. yes i like the s&w 99 but igive the credit for that to walther, and by the way i like the p99's. the
m&p is much better in the feel, trigger pull departmen, and i am sure since the feel and trigger is so much nicer and grip is customizable the end user would be more apt to shoot better with it.

TomN
January 2, 2008, 09:52 PM
Every Smith auto I've owned has been flawless. Starting from the 4006 to the 1006 to the 4516 to the M&P 40. I would have no hesitation in recommending a Smith and Wesson semi auto. God I wish I still had that 1006.

FEATHERWEIGHT
January 2, 2008, 10:17 PM
I hear you, I wished I still had my 1076 what a pistol. That thing was accurate reliable and would shoot anything.

The Lone Haranguer
January 2, 2008, 11:33 PM
Just what "bad things" have you heard about S&W auto pistols? :scrutiny:

I (heart) my M&P compact and 3913, and a 5904 was my first semi-auto handgun, also 100% reliable.

highrider
January 2, 2008, 11:52 PM
the new M&P is better built. external safety.

????? The trigger safety?

boomer1911a1
January 3, 2008, 12:54 AM
Quote:
the new M&P is better built. external safety.

????? The trigger safety?

The most recent M&P .45 has a frame-mounted manual safety.

highrider
January 3, 2008, 01:46 PM
The most recent M&P .45 has a frame-mounted manual safety.

Thanks boomer. Is this just in the .45's?

Jim K
January 3, 2008, 01:52 PM
So far, I think it is only on the .45, possibly because S&W would like to sell the .45 M&P to the military, and they like the manual safety. If it seems to be liked, look for S&W to put it on their other M&Ps or offer it as an option.

Jim

Koblenz
January 3, 2008, 03:19 PM
I think the steel second and third generation Smith and Wesson automatics were great pistols. I own two of them and and am seriously considering more. I have shot a .40 M&P next to the old original .40 4006, and I will take the 4006 any day over the tuperware M&P due to the 4006's ability to handle recoil.

Another great S&W I once owned was the .45ACP 645. It was a fantastic gun, and I wish I had never sold it. I might pick up another one if I can find one used.

Golddog
January 3, 2008, 03:51 PM
Smith's M&P and 1911's are their best centerfire autos, except perhaps for some PC models and the 945/952 series. All the DA types had terrible triggers, which is why I've never met a shooter in my area who has one.

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