Expensive handguns
RM
July 26, 2003, 03:53 PM
OK, so maybe this has been done before, but it is new to me. What are the most expensive handguns? And also, what is the most expensive 1911 handgun? I am excluding here antique firearms and gold plated jewerly stuff. I am referring to guns whose value is based upon quality, attention to detail and custom features. Thanks for any opinions.
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10-Ring
July 26, 2003, 04:05 PM
A couple years ago, a shooting buddy had a 6" custom STI built. After shooting it, I asked him how much he spent on it. $5000! YIKES!
Hkmp5sd
July 26, 2003, 04:25 PM
Custom 1911s by Wilson Combat (http://www.wilsoncombat.com/store.cgi?&shop=city&Category=10002) start at $3,000. Les Baers's (http://www.impactguns.com/store/les_baer.html) custom 1911s are a little less expensive, beginning at around $1,500. Of couse, you can find them at even higher prices if you look.
Chupacabra
July 26, 2003, 05:21 PM
Heckler & Koch USPs are pricey. $700+ for most models.
SnWnMe
July 26, 2003, 05:41 PM
Where the sky's the limit for cost, maybe a Sig 210? The old Sphinx CZ-75 style autos?
Quintin Likely
July 26, 2003, 05:58 PM
The "cheap" Wilsons start at like $1100ish for a KZ45, I think. CQBs are a little under $2K, and it goes up from there. Most anything that says "H&K" on it has a pretty stiff price tag.
Standing Wolf
July 26, 2003, 08:01 PM
I'm partial to Pythons and High Standards, both of which are decidedly over-priced these days. To the best of my knowledge, the German Korth is the Mercedes-priced revolver.
Sean Smith
July 26, 2003, 10:29 PM
Here are a few candidates:
SIG P210. Cheap ones are $2,000, and they go up to about $4,000+
Pre-WWII Colt National Match guns are "out there" and will run you over $3,000 easily.
Wilson Combat sells limited-production 1911s that are just shy of the $4,000 mark. There are $3,000+ Ed Browns and $2,500+ Les Baers too. All three make more "reasonable" priced models too (though that's relative).
Pistolsmiths building one-of-a-kind guns for you from scratch are in the $3,000+ range, but pistolsmith custom work is hard to pidgeon-hole because it can include everything from a $100 action job on a Colt to a $5,000+ gold-plated ego massager.
USPSA raceguns can get very expensive very fast, especially when you are talking about guns with funky optics and add-ons and such. Prices range from merely high to heart-attack-inducing.
I know Korth charges an arm and a leg for their guns.
At what point does spending money stop giving you ANYTHING objective but a lighter wallet? For a practical weapon, I'd say about $3,000, since at that point you can have a handmade gun from scratch with nothing but the best parts done by a highly qualified pistolsmith. That's overkill, no doubt about it, but you can at least quantifiy the material/performance advantages of every bit and piece going into the weapon at that point. Get beyond that, and you are just paying for metalworking masturbation or a highly specialized "game gun." Which are cool things if you can swing 'em. :D
Personally, I can't see dropping $3,000+ on a handgun, and I *like* customized guns. But at ~$2,000 it is almost dead certain that you can match $3,000+ performance 100%, and with luck and/or very judicious customizing hitting $3,000 performance with a $1,500 gun isn't unrealistic either. Heck, there are folks with $1,000 guns nipping at the heels of the accuracy and reliability of $3,000 guns, though at that price point you really do need to get lucky to play with the big dogs (at least insofar as "holy crap accuracy at distance" goes).
Preacherman
July 27, 2003, 12:57 AM
If I could afford it (I can't... :( ), and if I could bear to keep a gun as a "looker" rather than a "shooter" (I've never succeeded yet... :D ), I'd want one of these (http://www.lesbaer.com/presgd.html). Price? A mere $5,999.00, or if I want my name engraved and gold-inlaid on it, $6,186.00.
http://www.lesbaer.com/images/cov.jpg
Island Beretta
July 27, 2003, 01:11 AM
..polymer pistols in general..
BlkHawk73
July 27, 2003, 08:01 AM
I know some of the Korths (www.korthusa.com) start in the thousands and a few fancy ones get way up there $8000 - $10000. The Pardini line is pricey for "just a .22" but well worth it as are some of the Hammerli models. HK P7M8s can run $1000+ used.
RM
July 27, 2003, 01:22 PM
Yes, I went to KorthUSA.com, and their handguns do sell for about $6000. That seems quite high, but I believe that each Korth does come with a complete owner's manual and an extra mag.
ZekeLuvs1911
July 27, 2003, 01:28 PM
I just ordered one of the fifty Clark Custom Millienium Meltdowns. It will run about $3900.00.
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/50thphoto.htm
762x51
July 28, 2003, 03:53 PM
The SVI TIKI-T is up there. About $6000 IIRC.
http://www.sviguns.com/tiki_pr.html
max popenker
July 29, 2003, 02:58 AM
Korriphila "Odin's Eye". slide & frame made from damaskus steel. Price is about 10K Euro (IIRC), that's about $11K
http://www.korriphila.de/web_Bild_23.jpg
Blueduck
July 29, 2003, 09:47 AM
Personally I'd put the $3,000+ 1911's in the same excluded category as "antique firearms and gold plated jewerly stuff". Only difference is instead of paying for a pretty diamond in the grip or obscure rollmark your paying for am impressive name on the slide. I'm sure Tussey, Wilson, or a hundred other guys would be willing to mess with the same pistol for 6 years and charge $300,000 for it if someone had the inclination and cash ;)
"Real guns" I'd agree with Sig 210 and Korth
Animal
July 29, 2003, 12:31 PM
S&W made a special edition 1911 you can see it at thier web site I believe. They want something like 10 grand for it I think. This probably qualifies as a "jewelry" piece, but its pretty impressive, you should check it out anyways.:)
Skunkabilly
July 29, 2003, 12:46 PM
Wilson Combat doesn't really do custom stuff any more per se, more like high end production guns....
'Expensive' is relative, I rather have a $2000 pistol that works great out of the box and a good warranty than a $800 one that takes $500 to get it where I want it to be and the resale value of a $800 gun. I also rather have a gun or two than a safe full of guns I don't compete with or carry.
six 4 sure
July 31, 2003, 02:55 AM
H&K P7
They tend to run close to $1000.
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