KelTec P3AT, IWB options


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Nick1911
January 4, 2008, 10:41 AM
I'm looking for an IWB holster for a P3AT. Basically, I need something that is comfortable, durable, and makes the pistol absolutely disappear. Sitting, driving, standing, walking, wearing jeans or dress pants.

Bonus points if I can still tuck a shirt in.

I figure someone out there has tried a few different configuration - what have you found that worked best for you? Is there anything I should avoid at all costs?

Thanks!

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PakWaan
January 4, 2008, 10:52 AM
The little Kel-Tec disappears in a pocket so easily that I never bothered to order a belt holster for it. I carry mine in a Mica pocket holster which is terrific.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/

I use a Don Hume OWB holster for my little .45, and find them to be very good quality without spending a fortune. Hume lists a bunch of holsters for the P-3AT (this list is for the 2nd generation P-3AT, the ones made in the last couple years):

http://www.donhume.com/Products/ProductsList.cfm?action=SearchByWeapon&WeaponID=285

Ed Ames
January 4, 2008, 11:01 AM
I haven't tried it/know nothing about it but how about the clip kel-tec sells? It screws to the side of the gun and allows you to hang the pistol IWB more securely. Not a holster but perhaps worth a thought.

PakWaan
January 4, 2008, 11:07 AM
The Kel-tec clip provides no protection for the trigger, which is an incredibly bad idea with a round in the chamber. A gun without a round in the chamber is not ready to use in the split second you need it. Also, having no holster for carry exposes your gun to lint/dust/dirt and isn't a good or safe idea either.

Ed Ames
January 4, 2008, 11:24 AM
What you say sounds reasonable but work with me for a moment.

Triggers don't pull themselves just because they are exposed.

For pocket/purse carry you need a trigger cover because you store other stuff in your pockets. You are constantly reaching into your pocket and taking out things like key rings that can snag. Not just you... most people store things in their pockets and it is possible that someone else would reach into your pocket not knowing the danger.

You don't reach into your pants consta... well, let me be humorous for a moment and say that I don't reach into my pants all that often to pull out snaggage-prone items like key rings. If I do I usually use the zipper and am fairly careful about it. So trigger snaggage isn't as big an issue. Similar situation with lint and other junk. Pockets tend to accumulate debris because they are open only at the top. That means they can trap anything that makes it into the opening at the top. Pants... most pants... are open at top and bottom specifically to allow unimpeded egress of bread crumbs, lint, feet, and so on.

So I think what you are saying is absolutely true for pocket carry. I'm not as sure it applies to IWB clip carry.

A lot of people use clips. You can buy them for various revolvers and semi-auto pistols as 3rd party accessories. How many stories have you heard of unintentional discharges of clip-mounted guns? I've heard plenty of stories about pocketed and pursed guns having trigger-snag discharges but honestly I can't recall an IWB-clipped pistol/revolver discharge story.

I'm sure there are some but safety steps required for pocket carry are likely to be unneccessary for IWB clip carry.

XDKingslayer
January 4, 2008, 11:48 AM
www.ubgholsters.com

They make great IWB holsters and the P3AT is on their list.

Clipper
January 4, 2008, 12:13 PM
For pocket/purse carry you need a trigger cover because you store other stuff in your pockets.
...Only if you're an idiot. And I had one of the clips, but they put the pistol below the belt, and you have to dig for it, and I ditched it fast. I myself use a Nemisis, but my wife likes the suede Bianchi clip-on. She uses a left-hand IWB at 4:00 as a right-hand cavalry-draw. I think the model # is 6D-9.

Ed Ames
January 4, 2008, 12:24 PM
Agree about the idiot part but every "unholstered pocket/purse gun went off" story I've seen/heard involved someone reaching in to grab something else (keys coins, flashlight, whatever) and snagging the trigger with the key ring, a finger ring, a pen that happened to pass through the trigger guard, or whatever... I just don't see any of that happening with a gun clipped IWB. In effect your pants become the holster.

Given the "bonus points if I can still tuck a shirt in" I'd say the gun hanging below the belt might actually be desirable for his use.

igpoobah
January 4, 2008, 12:41 PM
I've used the clip on my 32 for years now, no problems. I do need to clean the lint and such out/lube every couple of weeks though....

And you can use it on lightweight nylon shorts, or sweatpants with no pockets, etc....

Chuckulator
January 4, 2008, 04:33 PM
I use an Uncle Mike's Size 12 and 3:00 carry. I cut off the top inch or so of the holster. It is not tuckable, however.

It is so light, I can wear it that way with sweats, pajamas, etc.

ArchAngelCD
January 4, 2008, 04:39 PM
I have an old Uncle Mike's Sidekick #10 IWB holster for my P-32 but rarely use it since that little pistol disappears in your pocket.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/ArchAngelCD/DSCN2087.jpg

brett30030
January 4, 2008, 07:47 PM
Hope i am not highjacking the highjacking of the thread.

The only way to fly. I just had to get used to carrying my wallet in my left back pocket instead of my right. You can also carry it front pocket and it does not print at all.

http://www.pocketholsters.com/Kel-Tec_Pocket_Wallet_Holster/kel-tec_pocket_wallet_holster.html

MICHAEL T
January 4, 2008, 08:03 PM
The little KT clip works fine for IWB . My wife for almost 2 years now Has carried hers every day IWB and couple other places in our store Its loaded and ready to go. I have carried it a couple times and I agree it safe and well concealed.
I don't find lint a problem IWB or really in my pocket. I did carry a KT once for 6 months with out cleaning of any sort. Pistol was shot reloaded then 1 mag a mo for 6 months Slide rail were greased not oiled . At end of the 6 mo the pistol was really dirty and had a fair amount of lint on it. The KT fired that last mag as well as it had the first. My experiance is my 3 KT's are better pistols than people give them credit for

shootinxd
January 4, 2008, 08:51 PM
I carry mine in a ankle holster,or by clip on the side of my p3at IWB.Forget its there sometimes

FLA2760
January 4, 2008, 08:57 PM
Don Hume IWB rig. It will conceal your P3AT very well and is comfortable and it won't break the bank. http://www.donhume.com/products/ProductsPage.cfm?ProductID=35

DMK
January 4, 2008, 09:07 PM
I have one of these Desantis holsters (http://www.desantisholster.com/020.html) for my P32. The entire pistol is below your waistband. It's very, very discreet. You could even put your cell phone or knife pouch over the j-clip to completely hide it.

http://mysite.verizon.net/dmk0210/p32/P32_IWB.jpg

ArchAngelCD
January 4, 2008, 09:18 PM
You could always buy the belt clip (http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/p3ataccessories.html) Kel-Tec sells which allows you to clip the pistol onto your belt or pants without a holster.

DMK
January 4, 2008, 09:30 PM
every "unholstered pocket/purse gun went off" story I've seen/heard involved someone reaching in to grab something else (keys coins, flashlight, whatever) and snagging the trigger with the key ring, a finger ring, a pen that happened to pass through the trigger guard, or whatever.Never, ever... Never carry anything else in your pocket if you carry your gun in there. Pocket holster, or no pocket holster. Most pants have at least three other pockets to carry your stuff in. If you can't deal with that, then pocket carry is not for you.

TimboKhan
January 5, 2008, 08:32 AM
I haven't tried it/know nothing about it but how about the clip kel-tec sells?

I have one on my P3AT, and it works very well. I vary between carrying my pistol in my jacket pocket and clipped inside my waistband.

Navy87Guy
January 5, 2008, 11:35 PM
I'm wearing my P-32 (same form/size as the P3-AT) in a Minimal Clip holster from Side Guard. I'm wearing in the appendix (2 o'clcok) position and it disappears. Here's a link: http://www.sideguardholsters.com/holsters/IWB_Holsters.htm The Minimal Clip is all the way at the bottom.

It took about 4 weeks to get mine - it seems to be well made and it fits the gun well.

Jim

plateshooter
January 6, 2008, 10:37 AM
Pocket clip is illegal in Ohio for CCW. The gun has to be in a holster, attached to the person. I use an Uncle Mikes #10 IWB holster. It is a little tight at first, but will stretch to fit the gun in a short time. I like the appendix carry, and this holster works well for me.

Cannonball888
January 6, 2008, 10:45 AM
I love the Kel-tec clip.

Blarelli
January 6, 2008, 03:11 PM
I'm a fan of High Noon Holsters. I have the Bare Asset for my kahr, and the split decision for my p3at, which is tuck-able, and rides very nicely while tucked (after shipping it is about $40). They are reasonably priced, solidly built, and they back it up for as long as you own it. They also have a couple of different pocket holsters, but I have never tried them.

BP44
January 6, 2008, 07:56 PM
Hi, I carry mine in a Highnoon bare asset holster as well it rides VERY low and is tuckable

denfoote
January 6, 2008, 10:03 PM
I use an Uncle Mikes #10 IWB holster.

That's what I use also.
Why get fancy on a gun that costs in the range of $200!!

Koblenz
January 7, 2008, 11:17 AM
I am trying to decide on which Kel Tec to buy. I want either the P32 or the P3AT It depends on which one is most reliable. I get the impression that the P32 is more reliable, but the P3AT has more power.

Which would you buy? My first priority is a reliable gun, but I sure hate to have to start stocking .32 ammo on top of all the others calibers I need for my large gun collection. When I stock up on pistol ammo, I need to buy .22, .25, .380, 9mm, 38 Special, .357 Mag, 44 Mag, .40 caliber , 45 ACP, and 45 Colt. And that just covers the pistiols. I need an equal number of rifle calibers.

Ed Ames
January 7, 2008, 11:37 AM
From what I've heard P3ATs that work are reliable. P32s that work are reliable. Perhaps more P32s than P3ATs work "out of the box."

Since you'll need to "prove" whatever gun you buy before you can really trust it I'd argue that the "out of the box" reliability statistics don't matter. Unless you have a time constraint and you need something/anything right now in which case buy from a shop with a range and test it before you take it home.

So I'd go with the P3AT.

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