Compare YOUR gun views to the candidates here:


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Hokkmike
January 4, 2008, 11:37 AM
Compare YOUR gun views to the candidates here:

http://www.electoralcompass.com/

Let me know what you think. I learned a little by clicking on the candidates' ICONS after the survey and seeing how we match up in our views on gun control.

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evilelvis
January 4, 2008, 12:04 PM
It's almost as if I was destined to agree with...Ron Paul. Duh!

siglite
January 4, 2008, 12:36 PM
^^ something I came to terms with quite some time ago.

RLsnow
January 4, 2008, 12:45 PM
ron paul :P but i cant vote for him here in norway :P

Chipperman
January 4, 2008, 12:53 PM
Interesting. Of course, you have to take into account that this poll is based on what the candidates have SAID. It bears very little resemblence to what they really THINK or would DO if in office. :rolleyes:

RTFM
January 4, 2008, 01:03 PM
Ibtl

Gunnerpalace
January 4, 2008, 01:06 PM
Of Course, :rolleyes: it's in Netherlands!

Took the poll it says....Huckabee, that's cool.

Didn't like that way they phrased the first gun one "background check and permit" I said disagree anyway but I do think background checks should stay.

Heavy Metal Hero
January 4, 2008, 01:18 PM
Ron Paul...farthest from Obama. No surprise there.

stephpd
January 4, 2008, 01:38 PM
I wasn't surprised that most of the candidates ended so far from the crosshairs. I was surprised that Fred Thompson was so far from me. But all the candidates were way outside of the bullseye.

Some of the questions weren't worded very well but why are there two extremes and nobody in the middle.

Granted Ron Paul came the closest but he has as much chance of winning as I do.

I'd much prefer if we had candidate covering the whole spectrum and not just a left/right extremist bi polar groups that we have.:banghead:

-terry
January 4, 2008, 01:46 PM
I'm closest to Obama, farthest from Thompson. I sure don't like Obama's gun position but that's only one of a number of important issues for me.

Hokkmike
January 4, 2008, 01:48 PM
stephpd....I'd much prefer if we had candidate covering the whole spectrum and not just a left/right extremist bi polar groups that we have.

Our country is divided Red and Blue, like it or not. I think your correct observation highlites that fact.

Zundfolge
January 4, 2008, 02:02 PM
I'd much prefer if we had candidate covering the whole spectrum and not just a left/right extremist bi polar groups that we have.
I hear people say stuff like this all the time, but my question is how would such a thing be possible?

Many people act like the political divisions in our society are arbitrary, but they are the result of competing worldviews (in particular collectivism vs individualism).

Show me a politician that is "all things to all people" and I'll show you a lying phony.

Diamondback6
January 4, 2008, 02:26 PM
Funny, it thought I was closest to Romney, even though I'm well in the bottom-right quadrant and two points closer to Fred as a "substantive match". Too bad it can't add in our opinions of the individual candidates as people...

EDIT: I'd like to know what they're thinking, 'cause I'd only vote for Romney if it's that or the Hildabeast. And I make it a point of principle to do everything I can to keep psychopaths out of positions of power...

tinygnat219
January 4, 2008, 02:29 PM
AAACCKCKCKCKC.... John Edwards? That's just wrong... maybe I need to read the questions closer?

beretta92d
January 4, 2008, 02:29 PM
it said i was closest to john mcCain and furthest from Obama.:confused:

guess it's cause i don't agree with Ron Paul on some of the issues.(at least it didn't say Clinton...:barf: )

Roc_Kor
January 4, 2008, 02:57 PM
Closest to Mitt Romney? Ewwww. :( (Closest to Paul/Huckabee/Thompson/etc on just gun control, though.)

one-shot-one
January 4, 2008, 03:05 PM
took it three times 1st answering as honestly as i could with the way the questions were worded, then answering totaly hardline conservitive, then hardline liberal.
1st time said i agreed with romney, no way i'm voting for him.
2nd time fred thompson, yeah i would vote for him.
3rd time obama, no way no how would i vote for him.
so what i learned; if you want a guy whose words say he is a true coservitive vote thompson.
if you want to hand the country over to the comunist & terrorist vote obama.
if your wishy washy on the hole thing flip a coin on the rest....:neener:

MakAttak
January 4, 2008, 03:05 PM
Well I'm not surprised I'm closest to Fred Thompson...

I'm also not surprised none of them are far enough to the right on Economic issues...

No matter the politician, they want my (small amount of) money.

Get out of my pocket- leave the gun and the wallet alone!

Chipperman
January 4, 2008, 03:10 PM
Another big problem with those types of polls, is that they give equal weight to all of the issues. You may not care so much about issue "A" and a LOT about issue "B", but the poll does not take that into account.

30 cal slob
January 4, 2008, 03:13 PM
survey said i'm closest to Ron Paul. lol.

i was psyched when Fred got off his duff and announced his run. frankly didn't know much about Ron Paul.

you know what, if it's between Ron Paul and Osama/Hillary, then it's a no-brainer.

SoonerSP101
January 4, 2008, 03:13 PM
Right-Traditional is where I fell...overall. When looking at issues on at a time instead of all issues at once I agreed with Mike Huckabee most often and Bill Richardson second. One's a Republican and the other Democrat. I thought that was curious.

VTKFJoe
January 4, 2008, 03:20 PM
Closest to Ron PAul, furthest from Obama - go figure

rono
January 4, 2008, 03:31 PM
Wow, closest to Romney (never even entered my mind) furthest from Obama (knew that)

brigadier
January 4, 2008, 03:40 PM
Closest to Ron Paul, followed closley by Obama. That's a little inaccurate though as my views do not reflect black and white answers to some of those questions.
Actually, there is only one thing that I potentially don't see eye to eye with Ron Paul on and that's the 2nd amendment. He has not yet made it clear whether or not he believes the states have the right to deny the 2nd amendment rights to it's citizens. The constitution and it's authors made it very clear that this is an unconditional national right. Again, I don't actually know where he stands on this. My views perfectly match his in every other way that I know of.
Now, why he has my vote, apart from the above:

1. "Voting for a winner" has really screwed this country up bad, and especially now that there is only one candidate that is at all any good, now is a better time then any to break away from this proven destructive philosophy. It's better to tell the crooks that they're loosing by voting for someone with little chance then for a crook, and right now, they are all (democrat and republican) equally bad so without Ron Paul, I wouldn't even trouble myself with voting this year.

2. He's the only candidate who is not PROMISING to break his oath of office before even making it. When you are sworn in as president, you swear an oath to uphold and protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. When we have people promising to attack Iran, infringe on our gun rights, spy on us and do anything with taxes but get rid of them, then how can you trust them at all?
Paul has a perfect constitutional record. Even the one thing he's being hounded on, was actually him following the law. If you can't trust him, then you can't trust anyone, regardless what your views are.

3. I have been in the business of promoting Ron Paul and get a good look at his support. Regardless what the polls say, I think you'll be in for a surprise when the actual voting starts. Even the big boys are calling this a Dark Horse election and for a reason.

DoubleTapDrew
January 4, 2008, 03:59 PM
I was closest to Romney (closet to Thompson on substantive) but his stance on guns are a deal-breaker. Once I just checked the issues I care about most (a useful feature) it appears I'm very close in agreement with Huckabee.
They should have deal-breaker questions in those quizzes, such as "I absolutely will NOT vote for any candiate that answers opposite my answers on gun control".

SaMx
January 4, 2008, 04:02 PM
closest to Richardson, furthest from Thompson.

on just the issue of gun control, closest to Richardson, furthest from Obama.

stephpd
January 4, 2008, 04:10 PM
Zundfolge wrote;

I hear people say stuff like this all the time, but my question is how would such a thing be possible?

I would say that there are moderates in both parties that can agree in part on some things with others in the other party. I just find it had to believe that there are just two opinions on all subjects and that most of the people running for president stray very far from the party line.

Hokkmike wrote;

Our country is divided Red and Blue, like it or not. I think your correct observation highlights that fact.

When I watch the elections and hear the red , blue states and how we are divided I look at the actual percentages and they are so close to 50/50 I just don't buy it. Haven't seen any states where one party takes 75% or more of the vote to say this state or that state is clearly red or blue.

I think that the process is rigged to try and divide us and voting for just a two party system makes it even more so.

When I answered the questions some of my answers were toward one party and others toward the other party. My biggest problem was how far away most of the candidates were from the crosshairs for ME.

Most of the candidates were so far from the center that it really shocked me. I thought someone might have come close, but they were all at the outer ring except for Ron Paul.

Personally I like Richardson for the Dems and Huckabee for the Rep. More because they don't seem as extreme as the others and both were Goveners. I don't like Senators or Congressmen for the job because they just tow the party line and have never been in charge or responsible as leaders. They usually just blame others and can't lead with a pack mentality. But that's just me.

I really wish that we could come together and find common ground for the good of this country but none of the candidates seem capable of doing this.

doc2rn
January 4, 2008, 04:17 PM
Wow I got hit with Obama cross hairs, and his stance on who can have guns does not adversely affect me so I am cool with that. Guess I got a new candidate.

springmom
January 4, 2008, 04:32 PM
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

The thing has some very odd ways of determining congruence. I have "substantive agreement" of 50% with Giuliani. I have substantive agreement of 74% with Fred Thompson (whom I happen to support). Yet it thinks I'm closer to Giuliani because my percentages economic and traditional have smaller variance to him than to others.

Of course, it also doesn't let you weight issues by importance, which would make the thing much more accurate.

Weird.

Springmom

RPCVYemen
January 4, 2008, 05:03 PM
I wasn't surprised that most of the candidates ended so far from the crosshairs.

And I am centered in the big vacant area right over the cross hairs. Dead of center economically, slightly more liberal than conservative with regard to social issues.

Of course, it also doesn't let you weight issues by importance, which would make the thing much more accurate.

Yeah - they put me closest to Bill Richardson. But if you factored in importance, I'd be closer to McCain.

Mike

DoubleTapDrew
January 4, 2008, 05:21 PM
Of course, it also doesn't let you weight issues by importance, which would make the thing much more accurate.
Springmom, when you are done with the quiz you can uncheck boxes on the right for issues that aren't important to you, or uncheck them all and look at them one (or more) issue at a time to see who you align closest with. It said I was closest to Romney till I unchecked the issues that weren't super-important to me and the crosshairs landed on Huckabee.

glockman19
January 4, 2008, 05:44 PM
closest to Ron Paul, furthest from Fred Thompson.

Beatnik
January 4, 2008, 05:56 PM
Man, and here I thought I was going to have to make a decision based on months of reading, watching all of the 2007 debates on Youtube, and a genuine interest in the process. Thank God some non-American made up an arbitrary, poorly worded 20-or-so question survey to settle the issue.

Seriously, why do we entertain this crud? Isn't this an active appeal to people whom most of us would rather didn't vote? What's the difference between letting this page decide, and letting NPR decide who we'll support?

wheelgunfan
January 4, 2008, 06:24 PM
Romney I guess for me.

ArmedBear
January 4, 2008, 06:38 PM
The graphic says I agree with Huckabee on guns, but the actual numbers say I agree 100% with Thompson. Puts me pretty far away, socially, from Ron Paul, when I agree with him almost completely "in real life."

Poorly constructed questionnaire, poorly written software.

Gunnerpalace
January 4, 2008, 06:40 PM
Seriously, why do we entertain this crud? Isn't this an active appeal to people whom most of us would rather didn't vote? What's the difference between letting this page decide, and letting NPR decide who we'll support?

Exactly,

ArmedBear
January 4, 2008, 06:54 PM
I wouldn't. She's fat and ugly.:evil:

Ragnar Danneskjold
January 4, 2008, 07:03 PM
It said I was right between Thompson and Huckabee on social issues, and farther to the right than any of the candidates on economic issues. Sounds about right. Huckabee and Thompson are my 2 main candidates, Thompson being my first choice.

Handyman
January 4, 2008, 07:15 PM
closest to Ron Paul - furthest from Fred thompson . Thats pretty close but I'd say I'm furthest from Osama

czbegenner
January 4, 2008, 07:40 PM
I don't get what there trying to do on this poll.They say i am close to rudy
when in fact i don't belive in what he stands for, i don't belive in the same sex marriage issue because it's aganist God,and it's wrong.Anyway i will be doing more research on the canadates before i deside.You have to be carefull
in what they say,and what they stand for.

bsf
January 4, 2008, 09:48 PM
Rudy Giuliani
You are 13% economic right
You are equally social-liberal as social-conservative
You have a substantive agreement of 64%

Mitt Romney
You are 11% economic right
You are 14% more progressive
You have a substantive agreement of 67%

John McCain
You are 20% economic right
You are 14% more progressive
You have a substantive agreement of 67%

Mike Huckabee
You are 16% economic right
You are 20% more progressive
You have a substantive agreement of 75%

Ron Paul
You are 17% economic right
You are 19% more traditional
You have a substantive agreement of 76%

Fred Thompson
You are 13% economic right
You are 29% more progressive
You have a substantive agreement of 72%

Bill Richardson
You are 67% economic right
You are 36% more traditional
You have a substantive agreement of 44%

Hillary Clinton
You are 70% economic right
You are 35% more traditional
You have a substantive agreement of 41%

John Edwards
You are 66% economic right
You are 40% more traditional
You have a substantive agreement of 43%

Barack Obama
You are 61% economic right
You are 51% more traditional
You have a substantive agreement of 40%

Be careful you do not get confused and disagree with a negative statement when you actually agree w/ it. I caught a couple of those when I re-checked my responses. I agree w/ springmom that this little exercise does not seem to take into account relative importance of the different issues. For example, the 2A issues are considerably more important to me than education issues. Even though it says I was closest to Guliani, I do not think I could ever vote for him. The exercise does say I have the highest substantive agreement w/ Paul, who I have been leaning towards.

Cannonball888
January 4, 2008, 09:57 PM
Closest to Ron Paul, furthest from Obama.

czbegenner
January 4, 2008, 11:39 PM
yea, Obama, thinks that everyone needs to get a license to carry a gun, also
about same sex marriages hes does not take a stand,(either you for or aganist) he also feels that we don't need a fence around mexico(oh let them come in? who would have thunk it. When things that matter most get so twisted.He does not agree with sharing the wealth for all who work.Well because im afro-american that does not mean i will vote for Obama, I like to find out the facts first. all the facts its a long time before november it's time
to find out the facts.

Mac Attack
January 5, 2008, 12:04 AM
Closest to Huckabee and furthest from Obama.

Shweboner
January 5, 2008, 12:10 AM
I am closest to Edwards and farthest from Thompson.

Gun toting socialist here....

Soybomb
January 5, 2008, 12:18 AM
Closest to Ron Paul and furthest from Obama. Not bad for a couple minutes.

Big45
January 5, 2008, 09:48 AM
Politcal back open?

eflatminor
January 5, 2008, 10:17 AM
Ron Paul...not surprizing. I just wish I could have the opportunity to vote for this Republican in Libertarian clothing.

SaMx
January 5, 2008, 10:23 AM
Wow I got hit with Obama cross hairs, and his stance on who can have guns does not adversely affect me so I am cool with that. Guess I got a new candidate.
his stance is on who can own hunting rifles after getting a license. If you want to own anything semi auto or any handgun then he probably isn't your candidate.

AZAndy
January 5, 2008, 10:34 AM
Looks like I'm supposed to vote for Richardson. Too bad about that Wen Ho Lee thing. He probably won't last until my local primary anyway...

Don Lu
January 5, 2008, 01:20 PM
Closest to Bill Richardson and farthest from Fred Thompson.

Lichter
January 5, 2008, 03:11 PM
Closest to Rudy which is funny because I detest him...

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