Email Address Help - NRA Presisent


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Bio Glock
January 5, 2008, 12:11 AM
I've been looking for Wayne LaPierre - the President of NRA's email address and can not find it?

if you have an address for him would you please share it with me.

Thanks much

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F4GIB
January 5, 2008, 12:20 AM
It's a secret. He doesn't actually communicate with members. Even Board members don't communicate directly with him unless they are at NRA HQ or a board meeting. Everyone has to go through layers of flunkies.

F4GIB
January 5, 2008, 12:22 AM
It's a secret. He doesn't actually communicate with members except at public events. Even Board members don't communicate directly with him unless they are at NRA HQ or a board meeting. Everyone has to go through layers of flunkies.

paramedic70002
January 5, 2008, 01:31 AM
I think the NRA president is Kayne Robinson. Wayne LaPierre is the Executive Vice President or some such title.

Barbara
January 5, 2008, 05:04 AM
John Sigler is the president.

Wild Deuce
January 5, 2008, 05:07 PM
Maybe Wayne LaPierre is not real. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049471/) I know I never hear back from him (or anyone at NRA HQ) on specific inquiries I've made ... unless vague, non-specific form letters count.

Robert Hairless
January 6, 2008, 08:27 AM
Darn. I thought that the CEO of every large organization sits at a computer checking his e-mail and answering it personally while their staffs sit around drinking coffee and watching American Idol until they're needed for something important.

Form letters? Ugh. I expect a personal reply, carefully thought out, to every message I send. That's why the CEO is there, to give me personal attention. I'm important.

Wrote me a few e-mails to the CEO of Wal-Mart just last week telling him what I want fixed in his company and offering my help in doing it. Haven't got an answer yet. I want him to give those e-mails considerable thought and to send me personal replies. Then I can write him more e-mails and we can get to be buds, hang around together, swap ideas and such. Maybe spend the next holidays together. Chew the fat, knock back a few brewskis, tell stories. I don't see how any large organization expects to stay in business if its CEO doesn't behave that way to its customers or members, especially me because I have real good ideas.

I don't like spam, though, or any other stuff sent to my private e-mail. When there's a lot of it I can't tell what's important to me. And I hate it when telemarketers call me at home or work. They seem to think that I'm supposed to listen or write to anyone who has my phone number or e-mail address. They don't even care that I can't get any work done or enjoy a few hours of rest if they keep coming at me.

Never liked unlisted or unpublished phone numbers either. When I want to call someone I expect to be able to do it.

AirForceShooter
January 6, 2008, 01:13 PM
You're not in Wayne's paygrade.
He's not talking to you.

AFS

Wild Deuce
January 6, 2008, 04:37 PM
Robert Hairless, FYI.... I have received personal replies from a human being at no less than six (that I can immediately recall) different organizations/companies over the years.

The calls and letters I received directly addressed my original inquiries ... no form letters. Some of the replies came from a director in marketing/sales, one from a CEO and one even came directly from the namesake of the company. I'm not talking about a mom and pop store/vendor down the street. These are from companies/organizations that you would know and that many THR members are familiar with.

So, yes Robert, it does seem that some successful organizations do know what it means to stay in touch ... at least a little bit beyond the incessant pleas for money.

Nice sarcasm, by the way.:D

JohnBT
January 6, 2008, 05:07 PM
Snail mail will get to his office, if you don't trust the NRA staffers to bump your e-mail up the line to his attention.

I sent an irate e-mail to National Geographic billing a couple of years ago and got no response. I followed it up with an irate note to billing about losing my renewal check and bugging me after I called them twice. I got a very nice letter from a VP. I hope I don't to write them for another 30+ plus years.

John
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"the incessant pleas for money"

Do these incessant pleas ruin your day or something? It's probably like me when I get one of those Valu-Pak mailers full of coupons - I get depressed because I can't afford to participate and there aren't any gun coupons anyway. ;)

Meanwhile, I too have received personal replies from company heads in the firearms industry, but then again they aren't working for huge outfits like Ruger either and receiving 5000 or 10000 e-mails per day. I least I hope not.

Just to list a couple, I traded e-mails with Dan Cooper at Cooper rifles about a question I had on a rifle I bought.
I received a return call (suggested by the person who answered the phone), within the hour from Wes Lang, the President of GueriniUSA. He was extremely helpful all the way around. He also drops in from time to time at the Guerini forum at shotgunworld.

John

Robert Hairless
January 6, 2008, 05:20 PM
Wild Deuce:

Robert Hairless, FYI.... I have received personal replies from a human being at no less than six (that I can immediately recall) different organizations/companies over the years.

The calls and letters I received directly addressed my original inquiries ... no form letters. Some of the replies came from a director in marketing/sales, one from a CEO and one even came directly from the namesake of the company. I'm not talking about a mom and pop store/vendor down the street. These are from companies/organizations that you would know and that many THR members are familiar with.

So, yes Robert, it does seem that some successful organizations do know what it means to stay in touch ... at least a little bit beyond the incessant pleas for money.

Nice sarcasm, by the way.

See, I was right. The CEO of every organization does sit at his computer checking his e-mail and answering it personally while his staff sits around drinking coffee and watching American Idol until they're needed for something important.

I'm gonna write Wayne LaPierre a chatty letter and if he doesn't answer it personally I'm gonna quit the NRA and join The Brady Campaign. Sarah Brady is cuter than he is anyway. Woo woo.

Wild Deuce
January 6, 2008, 08:03 PM
Robert, I see where you are coming from. Good luck.

Wild Deuce
January 6, 2008, 08:36 PM
Do these incessant pleas ruin your day or something?

Naw ... not really. They're just a gentle reminder that they will not take the time out to reply to a legitimate inquiry but will fall all over themselves to get out that next plea for cash. I do know that NRA related mail composed the largest percentage of my junk mail (from a single source) this past year.

I resolved to save every piece of mail from the NRA/NRA-ILA that arrived at my house in 2007. I put it in a neat little stack in the basement. This past New Year's Day it stood at a little over 1 foot 8 inches. Every single one of them was a request for renewal or contribution... no replies to any of the half-dozen letters I wrote.

It's all cool though. To me it's like paying someone for vanilla ice cream but they keep giving me chocolate. I would be stupid to keep paying for the vanilla when all I get is chocolate. If someone likes chocolate or thinks the chocolate they are eating tastes like vanilla, then more power to them ... enjoy! If they don't get on my case for not eating their flavor ice cream, I will do likewise.

TEDDY
January 6, 2008, 09:52 PM
in another post it was stated to look at mail and you WILL find a number to call to cancel the solicitations.
:uhoh::confused: :D :D

Wild Deuce
January 6, 2008, 10:39 PM
I would call if I thought anyone would listen ....:D

Seriously, I'll take a look. Thanks.

Titus
January 6, 2008, 10:41 PM
Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA?

A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.

paramedic70002
January 7, 2008, 01:24 AM
Well, about 4 months ago I fired off an email, to one of their generic accounts, addressed to Wayne to discuss a pertinent 2A issue. I did mention that I was a life member and included my membership #. About 2 months ago I got a reply from 2 staffers basically blowing me off, but at least I got a personal reply!

The original email was basically that contrary to common belief, VA is NOT shall issue, because there is a provision in the code that allows sheriffs and chiefs of police to block the issuance of a permit:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308

13. An individual who the court finds, by a preponderance of the evidence, based on specific acts by the applicant, is likely to use a weapon unlawfully or negligently to endanger others. The sheriff, chief of police, or attorney for the Commonwealth may submit to the court a sworn written statement indicating that, in the opinion of such sheriff, chief of police, or attorney for the Commonwealth, based upon a disqualifying conviction or upon the specific acts set forth in the statement, the applicant is likely to use a weapon unlawfully or negligently to endanger others. The statement of the sheriff, chief of police, or the attorney for the Commonwealth shall be based upon personal knowledge of such individual or of a deputy sheriff, police officer, or assistant attorney for the Commonwealth of the specific acts, or upon a written statement made under oath before a notary public of a competent person having personal knowledge of the specific acts.

This section was used by a sheriff to deny me a permit based solely on an old brandishing charge that was dismissed.

Here is my original email:

I read with interest Wayne LaPierre's comments in this month's
issue of American Hunter. Mr. LaPierre laments the fact that US
Attorney General Gonzales may one day be able to prohibit firearms ownership
through a determination of suspicion. Mr. LaPierre's outrage is obvious
and well deserved. But I would like to make Mr. LaPierre aware of a
similar situation, right here in Virginia. Code of Virginia section
18.2-308, the (concealed handgun code) allows Sheriffs and Chiefs of Police
to deny citizens their right to acquire a concealed handgun permit
based solely on suspicion. The actual wording is a bit vague, but since
there are significant disqualifiers already built into the law, suspicion
is about all that is left to stand on. In my opinion, this is not a
true "right to carry" law, as chief law enforcement officers are still
able to block access to permits that would otherwise be issued, just as
they used to under "may issue" laws. In fact, this section has been a
stumbling block in the past in regard to reciprocity with other states, as
it prevents Virginia's law from being "similar" to other states' laws
for the purpose of reciprocity. It is my hope that Mr. LaPierre will be
just as offended by such an odorous section of Virginia's law as he is
by Mr. Gonzales' attempt to restrict gun ownership. Please forward
this email to Mr. LaPierre. I look forward to a reply.


These are the responses I received:

Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:19:38 -0500
From: "ILA-Contact" <ILA-Contact@nrahq.org>

Thank you for your email. The Code of Virginia that you are referring
to does not allow concealed carry permits to be denied purely on
suspicion. This is what the section states:

a person who it is alleged, in a sworn written statement submitted to
the
court, that in the opinion of such sheriff, chief of police or
attorney for the Commonwealth is likely to use a weapon
unlawfully or negligently to endanger others based upon
personal knowledge or upon the sworn written statement
of a competent person having personal knowledge;

"Shall Issue" states are defined as states that require that carry
permits be issued to applicants who meet uniform standards established by
the state legislature. In Virginia the sheriff, chief of police or
attorney for the Commonwealth must submit a sworn written statement to the
court and then the court decides whether this person is prohibited
under Virginia state law given the evidence submitted to the court. This
is a uniform standard established by the legislature. This is different
then in "May Issue" states were the issuing authority has some
discretion to deny an individual and there may not be uniform standards. I
hope this clears up the issue for you.

Sincerely,

Erik Eckberg
NRA-ILA


Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:41:40 -0500
From: "ILA-Contact" <ILA-Contact@nrahq.org>



Thank you for your reply about your denied concealed carry permit. As a member, you have access to our database of gun-friendly lawyers in your area who will be able to help you in a situation like this one. While they are not on our payroll, they are attorneys who specialize in gun rights and civil rights issues, and have volunteered for the database knowing they will be getting calls from NRA members. In order to get the phone number of one of these lawyers, please call us at (800) 392-8683.



A second option would be to write a letter describing the situation and include photocopies of relevant documents involving the case. This packet should be mailed into our legal team, the Office of General Counsel at 11250 Waples Mill Rd. , Fairfax , VA 22030 .



Thank you again for the email, and hopefully this information was helpful.



Sincerely,



Alicia Borgess

NRA-ILA Grassroots Division

Megistopoda
January 7, 2008, 05:37 PM
It's a secret. He doesn't actually communicate with members.

Huh? At the St. Louis convention last year, a friend and I spoke at length with Wayne and Chris Cox (separately). Wayne's not only real, he's communicative. He handed me a business card complete with phone number and email address. To top it off, he came round our table at the banquet...and even called me by name. I was blown away, only in that I know he probably meets hundreds if not a thousand new people at each year's convention. The man has his faults like we all do....but he's damned impressive all the same.

Edited to add:
Some of the responses here are pretty low-road, in my opinion.

tinygnat219
January 7, 2008, 09:18 PM
Interesting take on VA. Sounds like to me that section of code is part of the overall background check that's required.

If you feel like you have something interesting going on, go ahead and send a FOIA request asking how many times that section of code has been used in the last 10 years or so. They can give you numbers. Shoot, they can also probably give you names since court records are public records. Just remember, FOIA is your friend.

ilbob
January 8, 2008, 12:22 AM
I got a very nice letter from a VP.

Many companies have customer service people who communicate with mere customers in the name of a high ranking official. It makes the customer feel like they got some attention from someone at the top. Generally it was never seen by anyone but a low level clerk.

Robert Hairless
January 8, 2008, 02:21 AM
I would call if I thought anyone would listen ....

Seriously, I'll take a look. Thanks.

Nah, no one will listen. It's part of an NRA scheme to generate calls to its toll free number. I haven't figured out yet why they do it but whatever the reason it's real bad. Like the NRA scheme to pollute our precious bodily fluids by putting flourides in the water supply, transmitting those awful messages to the fillings in our teeth, and putting bright halos around everything we see.

Everyone knows that it's much more effective to complain on the Internet anyway. Gives us a sense of belonging and makes us feel good to know that everyone is out to get us. Which they are.

I keep seeing bizarre messages on my computer whenever I log into gun forums. It's part of the NRA plot to make gun owners look bad so they send the NRA money. Can't fool me.

Barbara
January 8, 2008, 08:04 AM
I know a couple of people who are directors of the NRA and they've always been glad to answer my questions..I'm pretty sure there isn't any issue, specifically, with talking to members, except the sheer volume of correspondence they get.

If there's a concern, I'd be glad to help get you in contact with the correct person there.

ilbob
January 8, 2008, 12:33 PM
anyone else get the latest NRA junk mail.

mine came yesterday. new membership card. says you have to call the NRA number to validate it (in fine print it also says you can go to the web site). Why the heck do you need to validate a membership card, especially since I am a life member?

I did note they are also offering life members the chance to become an endowment meber for a payment of just $175. Get a free jacket too.

Am I just cynical or is this really all about the money?

TexasRifleman
January 8, 2008, 12:39 PM
new membership card. says you have to call the NRA number to validate it

I got that, it's from ILA, not NRA. ILA has to beg for money since they can't use member dues. Not much to do about that one I'm afraid.

EDIT: Today's mail did bring what you describe, a new membercard asking me to "vaildate" it. From my reading it appears an attempt to get me to give NRA my email address :)

Am I just cynical or is this really all about the money?

Certainly. As are most things. Takes money to pay lawyers, fly to DC, pay electirc bills, pay salaries.
It's always about money.

Could things be more efficient? Probably so, but explain to me exactly how a non profit 501c3 is supposed to operate without asking for money?

Wild Deuce
January 8, 2008, 04:30 PM
I seem to have a fan.

Hi, Robert!

Titus
January 8, 2008, 06:48 PM
Certainly. As are most things. Takes money to pay lawyers, fly to DC, pay electirc bills, pay salaries.
It's always about money.

Could things be more efficient?

Yeah, they could try the Metro. :)

TexasRifleman
January 8, 2008, 07:28 PM
Yeah, they could try the Metro.

Maybe if Heller wins it will be safe again!

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