[sturmruger]

I would love to read what manufacturers are planning for next fall when the AWB finally sunsets. I am sure there are plenty of places that will finally start turning out hi capacity magazines as fast as possible. I am looking forward to being able to purchase 10-22 50 round magazines for under $100 next fall. I guess this is all assuming that they will not renew the ban. I have done allot of reading on the subject and it sounds to me like nothing will happen. That is assuming all of us gun owners put some time in calling our elected officials.

Has anyone any insight into what manufacturers plans are for next year?

If you would like to do some more reading on the subject check out this site awbansunset.com (http://www.awbansunset.com/)

[Hkmp5sd]

I'd bet that the manufacturers and importers are filling their warehouses with full capacity magazines as fast as they can right now. They should be gambling that the ban will die in 9/04, but there is the possibility that a new ban will occur after the November elections. Depending on which new AWB bill passes, their warehouses will be full of new pre-bans. Of course, if the new ban is retroactive to 9/94, they, like us, are screwed.

[Justin]

Plenty of time to drool over standard capacity magazines and legal bayonet lugs later.

Call your legislators.

NOW.

Tell them that you do not support the renewal of the ban, and that you won't support any legislator who does.

Even if they are Republican.
Say it to them.
Even if it's a lie.

[.45Ruger]

Plenty of time to drool over standard capacity magazines and legal bayonet lugs later.

Call your legislators.

NOW.

Tell them that you do not support the renewal of the ban, and that you won't support any legislator who does.

Even if they are Republican.
Say it to them.
Even if it's a lie.

Couldn't agree more. My Rep. (R) Trent Franks gets a weekly post card reminder from me. I give Sen. John Kyle a weelky reminder and Sen. John (the traitor) Mcain 2 weelky reminders that he had better start acting like a Rep. or he won't survive the primaries next year. And yes all of the stamps do get expensive.

[blades67]

AWB in 415 days!! What will happen??


Something. Or nothing, which will really be something.:D

[SoCalGeek]

I think it's a safe bet that nobody will try anything before the election- gun control is a loser and the democrats know it. Now after, that's another story....

[G21NE]

I am worried that the Repubs will steal yet another DemocRAT issue and renew or make permanent the ban. Yet another nail in our and the Republicans coffins.

Have you heard about the "projected" cost of the new prescription drug benefit giveaway? The one that was the Repubs idea to win votes?

Something like 400 Billion? And that's ESTIMATED!

And renewing the ban costs virtually nothing. Think about that. :fire:

[blades67]

It'll cost them their re-election. They'll think about that before doing anything rash.

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

Make sure you mention when you contact your legislators that ...
if legislation to renew the AWB is attached as an amentment to an existing bill....any bill...Medicare reform, cheap prescriptions, free beer on Tuesdays, early childhood education funding package, repeal of the income tax....anything...it MUST be removed or the entire bill defeated. I'm sure somebody...Feinstein, Schumer, or one of their junior cannon fodder will attempt to introduce a rider if they cannot get a bill introduced to outright renew the AWB.

Folks, these hooraws are in Washington because WE sent them there. I don't need to remind anyone that they work for US. They don't seem to understand the pecking order up there anymore. The voter is the boss, not the congresscritter.

Employees who don't perform to the job specifications and responsibilites are soon found in the unemployment line checking the classified ads.

It needs to be the same for congressmen and senators who do not represent and vote the desires of their constituency.

Write them, monitor their introduced legislation and votes and in the next election cycle, vote accordingly.


Regards,
Rabbit.

Sometimes it is necessary to hang a few admirals in order to provide an example to the others.

[4v50 Gary]

Cmags! Cmags! Cmags!

I remember before the ban trying to get some but couldn't. :(

[faustulus]

Even if they are Republican.
Say it to them.
Even if it's a lie.
Don't lie. Hold them too it. If we say we will not vote for them if they pass the ban and we do then we have lost all the power we have. Make them fear us.

[fearlessrogue]

How bout if the assault weapons stuff is coupled with a repeal of the ban on creation of machine guns? So in effect you could have whatever you wanted as long as it was registed?

I already got a reply from one of my congresscritter...

[Hkmp5sd]

You can rest assured that the only way the machinegun ban will go away is if the Supreme Court steps up to the plate and makes a decision on the true meaning of the Second Amendment. There is no way on earth congress will ever repeal that wonderfully useless piece of legislation.

[SteyrAUG]

I wouldn't start counting them chickens just yet...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32964

[Hkmp5sd]

counting them chickens

For the most part, the Republicans are not going to let an AW ban be voted on, especially in the House, before the election. Bush does not want that hot potato to land on his desk before November, 2004.

What happens after the election is what we need to worry about. Even if the Republicans retain control of everything, they may want to gamble and approve a new AW ban right away. Their logic behind this is by getting the whole problem resolved now, we would forget about their treachery prior to the 2008 elections and even if we did blame Bush, we'd still vote for whoever replaces him.

[Moparmike]

I just sent a letter to both of my senators. I doubt it will do any good, but so be it.

I sent them this:Dear Senator,

I am writing you today to urge you not to support the following: S. 1431 To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes. I believe that the first Assault-Weapons Ban was a mistake, and this would be furthering the mistakes of previous legislators and compounding the severity of their mistakes. This law only keeps assault-style firearms out of the hands of law-abiding firearms owners, and does nothing to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

I personally would like to own a rifle that has been banned for the joy of shooting it, and possibly for protection. But I cannot, because it is against the law. I will not risk going to prison just because I want to posess an object of intrigue and fascination. I infact just became a lawful gun owner, and find myself more and more facinated with them. I like firearms, and hope to get a small collection someday, hopefully with a lawfully-owned (yet politically-incorrect looking) assault-style firearm. There are many others like me, that are simply looking for a nice collectors piece, that we can take out and enjoy.

An assault-style firearm is simply an object that looks a certain way, which people have a problem with. They have a problem with the look of the firearm. Please do not further the ignorance of those that wish to ban something because of its looks. This sort of behavior has no place in a hall of government, and the Legislative body is a place that should be making knowledgeable decisions based on facts and not on conjecture and opinions.

I hope you will heed my pleas and vote against this ban, and vote against any bill that has any sort of anti-Second Amendment proposals attached to it.

Sincerly,
Moparmike

Any comments or suggestions concerning the letter? I rarely write to legislators, and I feel it may be a bit verbose.

[Zundfolge]

Moparmike, I sure hope you didn't sign your letter to your Senators "Moparmike" (unless of course that IS your real name)

:neener:

[Moparmike]

Of course I did! What a silly statement:rolleyes: . I figured I would advocate the greatness of Mopars, and hopefully get some legislation going so that they can be built like a Benz but cost as much as a Matchbox. And maybe some legislation against Fords or something....:neener:

[Lictalon]

Some suggested edits, if anyone wishes to copy:

Dear Senator,

I am writing today to urge you not to support the S. 1431, which is intended to reauthorize the assault weapons ban. I believe that the first Assault-Weapons Ban was a mistake, and this would be furthering and compounding the severity the mistakes of previous legislators. This law only keeps “assault-style” firearms out of the hands of law-abiding firearms owners, and does nothing to keep them from criminals.

Please do not further the ignorance of those that wish to ban something because of its looks. This sort of behavior has no place in a halls of government, and the Legislative body is a place that should be making knowledgeable decisions based on facts; not on conjecture and opinions.

I hope you will heed my pleas and vote against this ban, and vote against any bill that has any sort of anti-Second Amendment proposals attached to it.

Sincerly,
Moparmike

----
I cut the part about the collection simply because explaining yourself weakens your position. What if he thinks that's a lousy reason to have a weapon? You're entitled because you're an American citizen; no other reason is necessary.

Well said over all...It's just five weeks since school ended, and I haven't corrected anything in awhile. :D

[Moparmike]

Friggin Grammar & Editing Nazis :rolleyes:, always ruining the essence of the document....:cuss:
















:neener:

[Orbital-Burn]

stop being such a sissy and draw a line in the sand. I'm gonna ask mine to vote to ban all guns. Lets get this over. It needs to happen. Win or loose, live or die, americans need to be identified. Not by the country they live in but by the ideals they espouse. The 2nd amendment is there so we can throw the government out if they get out of control, and I don't think there is a honest american that can say they haven't.

[Orbital-Burn]

PS you'll know for sure I'm write if you see something in the news going down in Wilson, NC

[zahc]

*thinks of affordable 10/22 mags and gets all tingly*

[Lictalon]

Ahem:

Any comments or suggestions concerning the letter? I rarely write to legislators, and I feel it may be a bit verbose.

And then:

Friggin Grammar & Editing Nazis :rolleyes: , always ruining the essence of the document....:cuss:

I would not have released my evil red pen if you hadn't asked. Was this English teacher entrapment? :scrutiny:

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Semantically, I'd ditch the "assault style firearms" reference. I just call them "certain semi-automatic weapons banned based on cosmetic features".

[rick_reno]

People vote their pocketbooks. The economy will be worse condition next spring than it is now and I expect Bush's numbers will be so low by late spring, he'll be looking to pull a Clinton and steal issues from the Democrats. He's going to realize that if he doesn't pull in some of those fence sitting/liberal leaning Democratic voters he won't be living in the White House for another four years. A good strategy for getting those voters in his camp is the AWB. One of those issues will be the AWB ban - and he'll push it in Congress and it'll pass and be signed into law. Most gun owners don't care about this issue, and let's be honest - most gun owners won't vote against Bush if he pushes and signs a law that has been on the books for ten years already. The Republican strategists know this.
I'm not counting on the AWB going away. When was the last time you remember the Federal govt. restoring some of your 2nd Amendment Rights?

[Carlos Cabeza]

I think the good teacher did a fine job editing and proof reading your letter Mike.

And maybe some legislation against Fords or something....

So, you're OK with Chevys ????:evil:

[hillbilly]

Folks, here are some FACTS to keep in mind when thinking about the renewal of the 1994 "assault" weapons ban.

1. The Sunset Provision means that the ban will expire, BY LAW, unless there is a vote to extend it. No vote, no more AW ban.

2. In 1994, with a still highly popular Democratic president and Democratic control of BOTH houses of Congress, the Sunset Provision had to be added in to get the bill to pass.

3. In the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives, the AW bill passed by (now check me out on this one, okay?) exactly two freakin' votes.

4. In the Democrat-controlled Senate, none other than Al Gore himself had to come down to pass the tie-breaking vote for the AW Ban.

5. None other than Slick Willy himself later said, on more than one occasion, that the AW Ban cost the Democrats control of Congress and evetually cost them the White House.

Okay, so even with total Democrat control, the original bill passed both houses of Congress by exactly three freakin' votes, one of those votes being a tie-breaker vote by the Vice President of the United States. And passing that bill cost the Democrats all the control they used to have.

And y'all think the Republicans will want to dance with this animal come 2004???????

Intellectually I think the AW ban is dead, dead, dead.

However, emotionally, I still fear its resurrection.

hillbilly

[Sam Adams]

I hope that you are correct and that the Republicans understand the impact that this issue (guns in general) has had on voting for the past 10 years. However, I fear what will happen if there is a battle over some Supreme Court nominee next year. Feinswine, Chuck the Schmuck, Lousyberg and Whorezine will likely go to Bush and say "get your Congressional pals to pass some version of the AWB, and we'll vote for your nominee." Then, whichever bill passes, we'll have a permanent ban and more guns banned - plus magazines that won't be getting any younger or cheaper. This is how it will happen: Rove will tell Bush "the issue is, Mr. President, which is more important to you, gaining a Supreme Court justice who might serve for 20 or 30 years, or letting a few gun nuts have more dangerous toys that they shouldn't have anyway?"

We gun owners must do all that we can to make sure that EVERY SINGLE CONGRESSMAN who can possibly be swayed KNOWS that this issue is absolute POISON for them. Then, it won't matter what Bush tries to do to sway votes for a justice.