Ammo may be going up


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NGIB
January 6, 2008, 10:30 AM
Like most of you I have read a lot about ammo prices going up in 08. This morning I made my weekly run to Wallymart and there was almost no centerfire pistol ammo on the shelf. They had 5 100 rd packs of WWB (9mm) left and I bought them. No CCI at all. The guy who works the counter told me they're selling everything out before the reorder - at new prices probably???

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shamus
January 6, 2008, 10:36 AM
The prices on everything are going up.

gcrookston
January 6, 2008, 10:41 AM
Yep, wasn't so very long ago I was buying my .45 @ $9.00 per 20, my 7.62 @ $12 per 20. Now it's more like 45 @ 15 per 20 and they are asking $38.00/20 for the FGMM

Alaxsxaq
January 6, 2008, 10:42 AM
I nnoticed that the price of S&B 9mm at Cabelas went from $7.99/50 to $10.999/50 in the past two weeks.

LKB3rd
January 6, 2008, 10:53 AM
I was in a shop a couple weeks ago and was told that ammo was going up 30% "next week". That would have been last week. So, it is possible that when the stock at current prices is gone, the new orders will be higher.

Just Jim
January 6, 2008, 11:51 AM
Better to quit buying ammo and let the prices go back down.

jj

jonnyc
January 6, 2008, 12:05 PM
While I don't doubt at all that ammo prices will rise, some of the current low-stock problem is end-of-the-year inventory issues. Lower stock means lower taxes for the retailer.

GTSteve03
January 6, 2008, 12:12 PM
You can thank the huge drop in the value of the dollar for most of that. Ammo producers have to buy their raw materials somewhere, and it doesn't all come from inside the US. Ergo, they have to pay more.

Also, transportation costs are going up too with the ridiculous rise in gas and diesel prices. Ammo is heavy and shipping costs are not going to be eaten by the company.

Just Jim
January 6, 2008, 12:23 PM
If you want cheaper ammo prices then quit buying it. The value of the dollar goes up when people quit spending and start saveing. When the price goes down then stock up.

jj

Double Naught Spy
January 6, 2008, 12:45 PM
Maybe some of y'all have missed it, but there are two pseudo wars going on right now that are eating up a lot of the ammo production in the US. These are ongoing conflicts for several years now. Ammo prices have been going up for at least the last 12-18 months because of the war effort.

rcmodel
January 6, 2008, 12:55 PM
It's got way more to do with the world market prices on lead & copper then the war going on. The war may have affected the availability of .223 & 7.62x39, but that doesn't make CCI rim-fire ammo hard to get.

Folks started hording up ammo and reloading supplies over two years ago, when all the big ammo & component manufactures started sending out 15% price increase letters to dealers every three months.
Fuel cost increases drove up transportation costs, and world metal prices just keep soaring.

China & other developing nations world-wide are sucking up metals faster then it can be dug up and smelted down. Thank your Chinese or Taiwan made flat-screen TV and your new computer for that.

At the rate copper has been going, it will be reclassified as a precious metal pretty soon.

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1911Tuner
January 6, 2008, 03:06 PM
The war may have affected the availability of .223 & 7.62x39, but that doesn't make CCI rim-fire ammo hard to get.

Well...Not in the short term and while existing stocks were in the warehouses...but after a certain period of high demand, and the companies
divert more resources to producing a small number of military calibers...it can affect everything, including powder and primer availability.

And it doesn't look like there's much relief in sight.

.41Dave
January 6, 2008, 04:30 PM
Better to quit buying ammo and let the prices go back down.

I remember when I was a kid you could buy 500 rd boxes of .22lr for about $2.99. If I had waited for prices to go down, I'd have effectively given up shooting.

The Fed is expanding the money supply at a rate of 15%+. The dollar is toast, with fundamentals worse then ever in our history. The only reason it hasn't collapsed already is that foreigners are busily printing their own fiat currencies to help prop it up because it happens to be the world's reserve currency for the moment, and it global consequences of a dollar collapse are very ugly. Do not hold your breath for lower prices. We won't get them.

BridgeWalker
January 6, 2008, 04:36 PM
9mm. and .22lr is so much fun...

I was gonna buy a .22 pistol and something else. Think the something else will be a .22 revolver.

Slugless
January 6, 2008, 05:15 PM
Even for .22 there's a significant increase. About 30%.

I was shocked today at the cost of CCI Mini-Mags at the range. $8 for 100. Last year it was less than $6.

I checked my normal shopping places:

Midway: $6.89
CTD: $6.97
Academy Sporting Goods: $5.69
Natchez: $5.39 - but out of stock

I bought 500 today when I stopped in at Academy before I did the online price check.

Apparently Academy didn't get the memo. I'm going to go back and buy a bunch more.
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XD-40 Shooter
January 6, 2008, 05:55 PM
Even reloading components are going way up. Check out www.midwayusa.com and see for yourself. 155 grain Ranier bullets in 40 S&W are now $98.99/1000, up from $82.99/1000 2 weeks ago. Bullets across the board have gone up 20%. Primers are now $28-$30/1000. Its a good thing I stocked up on components last year, as I have enough to load 3000 40 S&W rounds and 3000 357 mag rounds.:D

Gunther
January 6, 2008, 06:00 PM
Gunshop 22 lr prices are at 16-20 dollars a brick. Wal-Mart 9.98 per federal bulk pack and its flying off the shelves. Don't know how long it will last.

BigBlock
January 6, 2008, 06:05 PM
Has the price of ammo ever *NOT* gone up?

brickeyee
January 6, 2008, 06:11 PM
In other breaking news, the sky has been fund to be blue, and a government funded study has discovered that bears DO poop in the woods.

Further details at 11.

doc2rn
January 6, 2008, 06:15 PM
I just bought 5500 rds of .22 Fed from Wallie World as my Christmas present to myself. I think I am gonna go buy all that was on the shelf. I can just see what will happen, the next threat is gonna be,"I'm gonna get a savings account so I can buy a bullet for your *insert bad words*!" Things could get ugly if I cant get some sorta practice fix.

DENALI
January 6, 2008, 06:37 PM
I don't believe the war is affecting ammo so much as are the Chinese who are buying massive quantities of everything used to make the ammo. That said I don't know where the poster lives but sportsmens warehouse, they have winchester USA9JHP in boxes of 50 for just 14.00. It's very good ammo and virtually identical to the 115gr silvertip in terms of ballistic performance, I also saw .40S&W 180gr JHP's also under the white box trademark for just 19.00 per box of 50. I bought two cases of both.................

possum
January 6, 2008, 06:41 PM
no news, ammo is always going up. it is sad really.

OH25shooter
January 6, 2008, 08:16 PM
Hell, it even costs more to die. Nothing is going back to normal. Those days are history. In fact, I better go get a brick of that 22 ammo at Wal*Mart before the democrats take over.

SGW42
January 6, 2008, 08:45 PM
I noticed last night at Gander Mtn. they had 250 rnd. Mega Packs of .38 Spl. UMC for $90!

I seem to remember BPS and Gander having blow out sales on those things for like $40 or $50 just a few years ago. Guess it's a good thing my S&W needs to go to the smith, and I just bought a new Ruger Mark III.

Even .22 is getting weird. I noticed I can't get bricks of stuff like I used to be able to, like Remington Target or Federal Lightning. I have to buy 10 of the little 50 rnd. boxes.

BlindJustice
January 6, 2008, 09:12 PM
I heard a lot of that and I have been buying brass & bullets
Starline
1,000 .45 ACP
1,000 .45 Auto RIm
500 .400 CorBon
500 .357 Magnum

& various Leadhead SWC, Hornady jacketed etc.

at 3rd quarter '07 prices.

It'll pay off in the next decade
in terms of price and also exactly the
loads - bullets/velocity I want to fire.

& Always keep an eye out for good deals,
and the current market prices.

Phydeaux642
January 6, 2008, 11:04 PM
Ammo prices going up 2 or 3 times a year may force me to find a less expensive hobby to pursue and just practice enough to feel "comfortable" in a self-defense situation (I know, you can't be "comfortable" in a self-defense situation). I thought bicycles and cameras were expensive. I have five bicycles that I have had for quite some time and have spent less on them over the years than I did on firearms related purchases last year. It sure is fun, though.

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