[Streamer 71]

Hello everyone, I feel bad for my buddy, We went out to shoot our new pistols today His a new 442, Mine a 340 M&P. After 50 rounds of 38 spl. 130 gr. white box winchesters his 442 trigger would not reset. The cyl. would rotate but main spring would not reset untill I pulled back trigger back and flipped my finger off of it and let it snap forward and then it reset. He fired his last five rounds and it was fine. He is very shook up and rightfully so and I told him I would post to find out any info and if S&W should get it back right away. Thanks Robert

[rcmodel]

Probably just a stray metal chip gummed up the works momentarily.
That it started working again after you got it to reset indicates it's not really "broken".
It just needs more shooting.

I would normally recommend removing the side-plate and going through it with a cleaning & re-lube, but not on a brand new gun.
And especially not if you don't know how to work on S&W's.

I'd shoot it some more and see if it happens again.
If it does, call S&W for a return drop-tag and let them fix it.

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[Dollar An Hour]

+1 rcmodel

If needed S&W will pay shipping both ways and remedy an issues.

[Dollar An Hour]

+1 rcmodel - he summed it up nicely.

[Streamer 71]

Yes,Yes thankyou very much for the quick replys. My buddy will be happy to hear the respose. Thanks Robert

[GunNut]

Probably nothing wrong, but sure does not sound like a confidence builder.

Keep shooting it and see if the problem happens again.

[FunYet]

I had the exact same thing happen to my 442 a few years ago. In my case is was some debris behind the trigger. I found this out after S&W paid for the gun's round trip visit to customer service. I have close to 3000 rounds through the gun and it's still ticking. The 442 is a very sturdy gun. I would recommend NOT trying to open the side plate to fix it unless you know what you're getting into.

[Elvishead]

I had 123 go 911. So I bought a 321 and I traded it for a 666. To bad the 442 went 911.

[Stainz]

My break-in regimine for my new S&W's differs from my new Rugers. Make sure the firearm is unloaded. With the S&Ws, it's a good blast with a decent aerosol gun cleaner, like RemOil, once the grips are off. Direct it into each opening, while holding it vertically, muzzle upward, over shop rags or paper towels. You'll be shocked at what comes out. Replace the grips.

Next, be sure it is unloaded - and your ammo is elsewhere. Dry fire the stew out of it - 1,000 plus times, changing hands frequently. Follow this up with another blasting. If it is a Ruger, complete dissection is all but necessary - the burrs I've found in all of my new Ruger SAs, SP101, and SRH wouldn't remove themselves. I usually take the sideplate off my S&Ws to clean them at this point - and, if it isn't a dedicated HD or CCW, I change the springs, too.

Don't dissect your revolver without using proper hollow ground screwdrivers! You can find decent screwdriver kits, as well as reduced/smoother Wolff springs at Brownell's, etc. If the least bit squeamish, find a decent gunsmith. If he suggests 'recurving' the hammer leaf spring' and/or 'clipping' the main spring (J-frames have a wound hammer spring) and trigger return springs, go elsewhere - always keep the OEM springs stock - and go with different springs.

I'll bet this will 'fix' your buddy's sticking trigger... but, you can always send it 'home' for a check up - on their dime. The call and return shipping for a Ruger is on you, of course. I never had to send a S&W back for a factory defect. Rugers have all had to be dissected here - save one with casting bubbles between the cylinder exits (.45 Colt Redhawk) - it went 'home' for a new cylinder, etc. Love S&Ws - and really like my Rugers - after the aggravation.

Stainz

[Shear_stress]

Before you start tearing into the gun--was your friend wearing gloves when they shot that 442? It seems like every time I bring a revolver out in the cold I get a tiny piece of glove fabric stuck behind the trigger, which will tie up the action and appear to be a malfunction.

[Boulder]

Had a similar problem with my 442 and 332 when new. The trigger would get stuck in the rearward position, but could get it to reset. Dry fired a bunch and the problem went away and has never returned since.

[jad0110]

Let us know how the story ends!

[44and45]

You sure that gun wasn't a Taurus??? :D

Jim

[Streamer 71]

Thankyou all again, One question though. I told him it sounds like the best plan is to take off grip and spray out good where he can get to and then dry fire. I am kinda green when it comes to revolvers, Should he use the plastic cartriges to dry fire. Thanks Robert PS a steady diet of 357's in my M&P would ruin the average man.

[Boulder]

I always use snap caps if I'll be doing extensive dry-firing. Just checking function on a couple of cylinder-fulls, I normally won't.

[JV_2108]

I had 123 go 911. So I bought a 321 and I traded it for a 666. To bad the 442 went 911.

The jargon does seem a bit much at first. But if you stick with it, Elvishead, all will become clear. :)

[Streamer 71]

S&W returned my buddys 442 in 1 1/2 weeks and although I did not talk to them, he said the repair order stated that they replaced the rebound and trigger. I dont know if that means springs or what. He has yet to shoot it but thankyou all again for your imput. Robert