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moooose102
January 11, 2008, 06:42 PM
does anybody know about these guns? are they reliable? i found a 380 at a local gun shop for $130.00. but if it is junk, its no bargain! i am looking for an inexpensive ccw pistol, 380 is as small as i want to go. it seems to me they make a 45, but it is much larger pistol. if they are scrap, i guess i will probably buy a kel tec.

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Deer Hunter
January 11, 2008, 06:53 PM
You may be better off to just buy the kel tec. Not many good reviews for hi point.

DENALI
January 11, 2008, 07:19 PM
Hi there, IMHO there as reliable as any Ruger centerfire pistol and as such thats the pistol or pistols they are most akin to, there manufacturing being quite similar to my mind. Does that mean that their as good as a Ruger effort? Not likely. High point and Ruger pistols are considered reliable but bulky offering's with the Ruger's clearly the more refined of the two. I view the High point pistol as an economic choice to those individuals who for whatever reason can't or won't invest much in the way of money. Then over time, again for whatever reason it's not uncommon for these folks to move up in choice of quality, and of course the next logical step would be one of the Ruger centerfire pistols which economically speaking are the next most affordable step on the ladder...............

Constantine-p89
January 11, 2008, 07:21 PM
Hi-Points ARE reliable.

W.E.G.
January 11, 2008, 07:22 PM
Does it include the T-shirt?

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/humor/hipoint-2.jpg

Bigdtc
January 11, 2008, 07:41 PM
I hear good things about the Hi-Point pistol and carbines here and on other sites. Happy Shooting!!!

denfoote
January 11, 2008, 07:45 PM
I've heard that they have improved the quality over the years, however, for me it's a case of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!!

TnShooter83
January 11, 2008, 07:52 PM
I've owned 2, still own 1. Both in 9mm.

No Failures of any kind yet.
$130.00 for a .380 is a bit high.
I can get them NEW for $115.00 out the door.

I got my 9mm for 135.00 out the door. NEW

If you want a .380 CCW, I think the Bersa is better.
As it is smaller, lighter, and just as reliable.
If you want a house gun, get thwe HiPoint and save your self some money.

ladykilla
January 11, 2008, 09:01 PM
A buddy of mine picked up a Hi Point .380 at the gun show for $90.00. We took it to the range and it functioned flawlessly. We ran about 200 rounds through it. That is my first and only experience with the Hi Point pistols. I have the 9mm carbine and love it. I know that they come with a lifetime warranty, so don't fear if it does happen to "break" on you. They will fix it.

That being said, I also own a few Kel-Tecs. My P-11, compared to the HP380, is superior in construction, finish, and accuracy. If I had to choose, an had the cash, I'd go with a Kel-Tec. But if you can only spring $100, go with the Hi Point.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
January 11, 2008, 09:57 PM
i carry my hi-point c9 everywhere i go ever since i gotmy permit. it is the only pistol i have that is a decent caliber (only have a beretta .22LR other then that) ive put well over 2k rnds through it with never a hickup. only one or two stovepipes in 3 years. same with my hi-point 9mm rifle which has over 6krnds through it.

i loved it expecally with a slip on grip, never had any problems and if i did they have a lifetime warrenty that doesn't matter if your the first owner or the 50th that will cover it which you can't say about many other manufacters.

they do leave something to be desired in weight and looks but they are acurate and reliable which is more important.

jahwarrior
January 11, 2008, 10:49 PM
$135 is a bit high for a HP .380ACP. $100 sounds a bit better. my brother has one in .45ACP; it used to jam up every 3rd round. he sent it back for repair; 300 rounds later, and not a single hiccup. HPs are ugly as hell, but they work; if they don't, at least you can club someone to death with one.

if you want an alternative, cobra enterprise is another low cost brand. i carry the CA380. it's tiny, holds 5+1, and is reliable. i got mine for about $100. here's a pic, next to my S&W SW9VE:

http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/jahwarrior72/?action=view&current=Picture014-1.jpg

hksw
January 11, 2008, 11:55 PM
You may be better off to just buy the kel tec. Not many good reviews for hi point.

Please perform a search on this topic before heeding this opinion.

trackaddict88
January 12, 2008, 12:57 AM
I have heard good and bad about Hi Point and Kel Tec, pretty much all Manufacturers come to think of it. :rolleyes: Seriously though, My brother has a HP 9 mm and it is not accurate while my Glock is for both of us so not the shooter. He is buying a Glock now after shooting mine. Maybe his needs sent back.

In my CCW class there was an older gentleman whose wife had bought him a HP .45 a week before she died. He said he would never get rid of it. It broke while he was attempting to qualify (not sure what happened something with the trigger according to the instructor-I didn't hear all of it-but he had to borrow a gun to finish). He was going to buy something else to carry after that. Still keeping the HP for sentiment but sending it in for repairs first.

The only two I have used or seen used I would not trust MY life with. Just my .02 take it or leave it. :)

bensdad
January 12, 2008, 01:04 AM
Price is a little too high. My HP 9mm functions flawlessly. So does my Bersa .380. If I was gonna make a recommendation on a .380, it would be a Bersa.

Christianninja
January 12, 2008, 01:28 AM
Life time no questions asked warranty. If it EVER does ANYTHING bad on you, just send it in and they'll make it good as new.

Sounds good to me.

Ironman762
January 12, 2008, 02:10 AM
Pros:
Reliable as the day is long. My one service center call was answered quickly and the gunsmith assisted me over the phone and offered to fix a problem I was having after reassembling the gun. It was may fault and it was fixed in five minutes. Lifetime service from a company like that, I can live with. It was very comfortable to shoot. It shot anything I fed it.

Cons:
It was not terribly accurate due to the loose slide to frame fit and crappy trigger. Disassembly for cleaning requires a punch tool and patience during reassembly. In the end, that was the downfall for me with the gun. I hated that take down process for cleaning it.

Jamesmb
January 12, 2008, 02:17 AM
I bought a Hi Point CF380 new at a gunshow in November. About every three or four rounds would jam the gun. Over time this got less and less. I probably put about 400 rounds through it of variouls brands of ammo, Winchester seemed to work the best, and at the end the jamming was down to maybe one in 10 rounds would cause a jam. I was told it need filing on the inside to fix this. I sold the gun.

nelson133
January 12, 2008, 07:44 AM
I bought one , a C0, a couple of years ago just to test iyt out. I mistreated it for about 2K rounds and it functioned reliably. It started jamming about the 1200 round mark, but that was because I had never cleaned it at all. A light cleaning restored function. I never did the full take down with the punch, that is only recommended every 1500 rounds. I've ended the experiment and don't shoot it much anymore.
It is an ugly and clumsy piece and I would carry any number of the other pistols I own before this one. But if it was all I could afford I know that it would work.

Eric F
January 12, 2008, 08:01 AM
Buying a gun is much like buying a tool. If its for just 1 job and you can toss it in the trash when you are done then High point is fine but dont expect it to last and/or work more than once.

On the other hand if you pride yourself in purchases and you need a tool that will last long enough to pass on to your children and/or its a multiple use or heavy duty use tool then spend the cash and buy a better line of product.

bottom line hi point was built and designed for one purpose to sell to those who cant afford kinda like buying christmas presents for your kids at the dollar store then wondering why they are all broken by newyears. I promiss you will be a lot happier with something else and for only a couple of hundred more.

jon_in_wv
January 12, 2008, 09:33 AM
Is everyone on here so loaded they don't understand the difference between a 100-200 gun or one "just a few hundred dollars more?" Believe it or not, some folks are POOR. For some people, "just a few hundred dollars" might just as well be a million dollars. It just isn't happening. For them, the Hi-Point makes perfect sense. You can get a Hi-Point 380, brand new, for around 100 dollars. There is nothing else in that range you can get. I can afford better guns and I buy better guns but I've been poor and I'll will never forget what that was like. Many of my friends bought Hi-Points, against my advice, and NONE of them have anything bad to say about them. They are ugly as hell, cheap as hell, but they work. Gun owners need to stop looking down on poor people like they don't deserve to have guns if they can't afford GOOD ones. The fact of the matter is this is a tenant of our freedom that EVERY man can have a weapon for defense of himself and his family not just those who can afford Kimbers and GLocks.

That being said. A Keltec P-11 was my first carry gun. If you can afford to I would step up to the P-11.

DerbyDale
January 12, 2008, 10:46 AM
If its for just 1 job and you can toss it in the trash when you are done then High point is fine but dont expect it to last and/or work more than once.

:banghead:

Lets keep it honest and real. Doing otherwise helps no one... :rolleyes:

Truth is Hi-Point is heavy, big, inexpensive, firearm - that works and works well.

I have the 9mm carbine with the ATI stock for a few years now. It has well over 6000 rounds through it and has never jammed, or malfunctioned once. It is my cheapest firearm, but it's also one of the most fun to shoot. In fact, its the only gun my wife or daughter like to shoot when they go with me. They don't like the massive recoil of my M1 or 1903A3, and don't like the pop gun feeling of my Browning .22 rifle. They also don't care for my XDs or M&P pistols. Occasionally they will shoot my Hi-Standard .22 target pistol, but even that is not as much fun as the cheapie Hi-Point carbine to them.


Is Hi-Point an Investment firearm? No

Is Hi-Point an family heirloom you pass down like your grandfathers Winchester? No

Is Hi-Point a reliable American made firearm with excellent customer service and a LIFETIME warranty? Yes



jon_in_wv wrote:
Is everyone on here so loaded they don't understand the difference between a 100-200 gun or one "just a few hundred dollars more?" Believe it or not, some folks are POOR. For some people, "just a few hundred dollars" might just as well be a million dollars. It just isn't happening. For them, the Hi-Point makes perfect sense. You can get a Hi-Point 380, brand new, for around 100 dollars. There is nothing else in that range you can get. I can afford better guns and I buy better guns but I've been poor and I'll will never forget what that was like. Many of my friends bought Hi-Points, against my advice, and NONE of them have anything bad to say about them. They are ugly as hell, cheap as hell, but they work. Gun owners need to stop looking down on poor people like they don't deserve to have guns if they can't afford GOOD ones. The fact of the matter is this is a tenant of our freedom that EVERY man can have a weapon for defense of himself and his family not just those who can afford Kimbers and GLocks.

Well said jon! Luckily I can afford higher priced firearms, but still enjoy my Hi-Point and would buy another one.

bensdad
January 12, 2008, 11:34 AM
I know I'll get jumped on for this... again. Anyway, here goes:

I am so sick and tired of emotional, colorful, dataless answers to questions about facts and data.

On the other hand if you pride yourself in purchases

So, if someone buys a Hi-Point, they have no pride.

kinda like buying christmas presents for your kids at the dollar store

So, now, we liken Hi-Point owners to people who ruin Christmas for their kids.

Gun owners need to stop looking down on poor people like they don't deserve to have guns if they can't afford GOOD ones.

While this poster was writing in support of Hi-Point firearms, this sentence still manages to equate them with the word "bad", since they are purchased by those who cannot afford "GOOD".

Here are some facts:
1) Hi-Point guns are inexpensive.
2) Hi-Point guns have a lifetime (of the GUN) warranty.
3) Hi-Point guns are black.
4) My Hi-Point 9mm has not had a failure in many range trips. It has malfunctioned, but I don't remember the last time it did.

Here are some opinions:
1) Hi-Point guns are reliable (Mine certainly is, but compared to what?).
2) Hi-Point guns are ugly. O.k. maybe that one is a fact.
3) Hi-Point guns suck because I know a guy who knows a guy who...

gomakemeasandwich
January 12, 2008, 11:43 AM
Damn you beat me to the punch with the Hi Point question. I wished I had seen this thread before I posted mine. I am looking for a cheap range gun to play around with that is reliable and that turned me on to Hi Point, from what I have heard so far at least. Good luck with your search.

If you want a .380 CCW, I think the Bersa is better.
As it is smaller, lighter, and just as reliable.
If you want a house gun, get thwe HiPoint and save your self some money.

I second the Bersa suggestion. You won't find a better .380 on the market, although the prices are starting to creep up.

gomakemeasandwich
January 12, 2008, 11:56 AM
Deleted. Inappropriate language.

Thylacine
January 12, 2008, 11:56 AM
I just bought a Hi-Point .40SW for about a $100. It runs great eats all kinds of ammo. I am not so paranoid about it being so GD expensive that I actually shoot it.

I only have one issue with it. I have burned more in ammo than the thing gun cost.

John4me05
January 12, 2008, 12:41 PM
I have a C9 Hipoint and it works great... Its like buying a pinto to drive to work and back and finding out someone stuffed a 351 Modified under the hood....
I paid too much for it (180 3 years ago) but dont regret it for 1 second...
It had fail to chamber to start with but that was my own fault cause i didnt know prooper loading proceedures... Smach the back of the magazine on your hand or on the top of the gun (to stand the noses of all the bullets up) and then slap it home in the handle... NEVER had a fail to chamber since then... I did change the recoil spring to the stiffer one provided with the gun... It handles rapid fire emptying of the clip with no hicups no burps no nothing... They arent tack drivers.... But they will put alot of ammo on target in a hurry...
If i had to shoot someone in body armor and had to hit the armpit to get a actual body penetration i would prefer my Colt Trooper .357... But other than pinpoint accuracy (which i am sure mine will get better with more practice) i cant find a thing wrong with these guns...
Yes they are cheap to buy... Yes they arent pretty... Yes they are heavier than most... But its a solid buy... And i think it is built strong enough that i will be able to pass it down to my daughter who is going to turn 2 in a couple months...

John4me05
January 12, 2008, 12:43 PM
And on another note i am going to buy the same Hipoint brand in 45ACP in about a month.... So i am a return customer....

herohog
January 12, 2008, 07:45 PM
+1 on the language and +9 on the HiPoint!

At a gun show in Richmond I saw a .380 HiPoint for $215.00 :what: Someone takes the GOOD drugs I see! :neener:

gomakemeasandwich
January 13, 2008, 12:49 AM
Please don't use this kind of language. Art's Granmaw and Xavier Breath's daughter, and my GF don't appreciate it at all.

Ok. You are right, the language doesn't match the tone of the forums. I chose a poor way to express my opinion of that...poster. I will choose my words and how I phrase them more carefully next time. You have my word.

w_houle
January 13, 2008, 01:13 AM
I currently have 200 rounds of Winchester through my CF380 and I think it is a decent little pistol, by and large my only complaint is that I cannot find aftermarket upgrade parts for it

Stephen A. Camp
January 13, 2008, 02:13 AM
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I figure that the folks on this thread who've gone over the line know who they are. I've not yet made any decisions on banning but am considering it for more than one.

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