Midway Loadmap?


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Rustynuts
January 14, 2008, 09:25 PM
How to get a hold of one of these? Do they still sell them, or only a lucky few get anointed?

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rcmodel
January 14, 2008, 09:29 PM
I think that was a shot in the dark!

They only got two or three calibers done, then they faded into the sunset.

I haven't seen them in Midways catalog for several years now.

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Black_Talon
January 14, 2008, 09:52 PM
Sometimes they show up on egay.

sublimaze41
January 14, 2008, 11:03 PM
That's too bad, I have 4 of them and really enjoyed them. They were on heavy gloss paper, had a ring binber and TONS of load data.

If you get a chance to get one I would go for it.

Walkalong
January 15, 2008, 08:50 AM
I have two. They are usefull, although a bit optimistic. To their credit, most of the "optimistic" are in the yellow or red area at the top.

They use a long O.A.L. on everything. You have to be carefull with them. They do have some "Midway" brand plated bullet data, so that is interesting and helpful. It can be compared to their other data on same bullet weights.

Bronson7
January 15, 2008, 12:58 PM
I have one for 45ACP. Like Walkalong says, their listed oals give me pause, especially concerning 230 grn bullets, so I seldom use it.
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rg1
January 15, 2008, 08:43 PM
I've got all 4 issues---9mm,45acp,.357Magnum, 44Magnum. Great source for comparing data. I use powder manufacturers data, bullet company data, and reloading company data such as Lyman. The Midway loadmap data is very useful.
The 9mm LoadMap uses Remington cases and WinSP primers with all tests. They test for instance 17 different 115 grain bullets with 10 different powders. 10 different 124 gr. bullets and 10 different powders and 11 147gr. bullets. Bullets from Hornady, Midway, Nosler, Remington, Sierra, Speer, and Winchester.
The 45acp LoadMap uses Remington 2 1/2 primers and Remington cases for all tests. They test 14 different bullets in 230 grain with 10 different powders for instance. They also test bullets from 185-265grains.
.357 Magnum data in the LoadMap uses Winchester cases and Win SPM primers in all tests. They test 23 different 158 grain bullets with 10 powders. Also bullets from 110-200 grains.
The 44 Magnum LoadMap uses Winchester cases and Remington 2 1/2 primers in all tests. 19 .240gr bullets tested and other tests from 180-300 grains using 10 different test powders.
When working up a load for any of these 4 calibers, I consult the bullet company manual, then the powder company manual, then compare the data in the LoadMap. It's very useful in comparing bullets from different companies. The LoadMap's are case and primer specific and if you use other cases or primers then you have to be the judge. They do, and I don't know why, seat a lot of the bullets to maximum overall length which isn't the correct seating depth for especially 9mm and 45acp. I've found the LoadMap data to be pretty realistic with the loads I've tested. I highly recommend the LoadMap series of manuals for comparing and working up loads. Don't know why they stopped unless lawsuit liability in today's legal suit happy climate or were the tests and publishing not cost effective?
What I like about the LoadMap manuals best is you can kind of compare their data with for instance all 230gr FMJ 45acp bullets and get an idea the differences in velocity and pressure with the same charges. Not much difference with some 230fmj bullets and more with others.

Rustynuts
January 15, 2008, 09:16 PM
Snagged one off ebay (probably a member who read this post and decided to sell!) for about $11-12 shipped. It was for 45 ACP!

hawkeye1
January 16, 2008, 10:55 AM
Load maps are great. They have I think all powders for all bullets for all weights with all info. Amazing. But I have not seen them for a while. I might look on ebay. I have one for 45 acp. good thing to have.

Clark
January 16, 2008, 10:04 PM
I have the 4 cartridges too.

Very well done in every aspect, except, if pressures are measured just right.... the 357 mag loads are lower than old 38 special loads.

"Speer 6" 1964 38 s&w special 160 gr soft point 11 gr 2400
"Speer 6" 1964 357 mag 160 gr soft point 15 gr 2400
Midway "Loadmap" 1999 357 mag Speer 160 gr soft point 10.9 gr 2400


What went wrong that Midway could get the max loads so far off and make
a useless load book?
They used an "Oehler System 83 and piezoelectric transducers, the latest
in industry standard equipment".

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