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Funderb
January 19, 2008, 12:31 PM
At airports, schools, and most wifi public hotspots.
Isn't that fun?

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ScottS
January 19, 2008, 12:39 PM
Which WiFi service? I've browsed it many times while waiting for a plane at airports in ATL, CVG, LAX, and LAS.

Autolycus
January 19, 2008, 01:08 PM
Tag for later.

41magsnub
January 19, 2008, 01:36 PM
thehighroad.org is a "weapons" site. The default settings for most content filtering software packages are to deny access to several categories including weapons. In many cases it may not be the organizations intent to block this site, it is just the default.

Packman
January 19, 2008, 01:50 PM
shucks, that's why you run proxy's. It's blocked at school for me, but we have 1 administrator on the system who's trying to outsmart 600 students, all hell-bent on outsmarting her. We cracked the system a long time ago, and she doesn't seem to know it. I can get on at school.

aikidoka-mks
January 19, 2008, 01:51 PM
I'll have to try at work sometime. I've had political blogs blocked with the screen saying - porn. lol

You can try going through a proxy website, see if that works. It's a bit of a pain though.

Ultrachimp
January 19, 2008, 01:56 PM
proxies, man ;)

and yes, it is a "weapons" site - if you're going to be stupid enough to block weapons sites it belongs in that category.

Vector
January 19, 2008, 01:56 PM
Interesting

Dave Dembinski
January 19, 2008, 01:57 PM
Fine with me. I'm not about to tell someone what they can and can't ban on their networks.

TexasRifleman
January 19, 2008, 01:58 PM
I have yet to see THR blocked from any public wifi I've tried, and I travel for business regularly.

I've read several folks say that Panera Bread blocks it but I was on THR for an hour or so in a Panera just a couple of weeks ago so I dunno.

I've been in many airports with free wifi and have yet to see one that blocks THR either.

Gonna have to say that the OP's assertion that most wifi public hotspots. block THR is wrong.

The-Fly
January 19, 2008, 02:07 PM
VPN's are wonderful for situations like this.

Camjr
January 19, 2008, 02:10 PM
I was at the car dealer for service, and the site was banned because of "objectionable content."

Firethorn
January 19, 2008, 02:20 PM
It's blocked at work under the 'forum' class

I'm not going to object, as it's absolutely right.

'weapons' were blocked for a while, then it was pointed out 'Dude, we're military!'.

ArfinGreebly
January 19, 2008, 02:54 PM
For those of you running Firefox, the Torpark browser (up to version 2.0.0.3) is free. It's a proxied Firefox, and I've been able to run it on pretty much any network. Past v2.0.0.3 I believe it's been rebranded to XeroBank XB Browser, though I've not played with that.

When my previous employer's IT dept decided to start blocking politically conservative blogs (while claiming they weren't), I found that Torpark allowed me access to pretty much whatever.

Yes, you give up some performance, but you don't leave breadcrumbs everywhere, and you can get to wherever you need to go.

Like here.

(Oh, and for those of you NOT running Firefox -- specifically those of you still running IE -- why would you do that to yourself? I run Opera as a rule, Firefox for stuff that Opera doesn't handle right, and IE only when I must.

I lock my car when it's parked, I don't leave it idling when I shop, I lock my (home) doors at night, I don't leave guns on my coffee table with the blinds open, and I don't run IE without a really good reason.)

quatin
January 19, 2008, 02:59 PM
This better not be public WiFi sites paid for by the city. If not, then it's the pot calling the kettle back when they get all roused up about China filtering their internet.

Rachen
January 19, 2008, 03:03 PM
Banned, right, but not for me. When I was in high school, this site is banned because of "weapons". So what I did? To hell with it is what I did! I simply switched proxies on the computer I was using and channeled it with a public proxy, and I am still able to talk to you guys here when the teacher wasn't looking HA:D

98C5
January 19, 2008, 03:08 PM
Our work luckily does not block this or any other firearms sites. If they did, I would tell them to unblock it. Then, I'll explain that this site is very informative for Pro-2A issues and has no affiliations with anti-government or any other nut-job websites. I know the guys in IT, so it shouldn't be a problem. My supervisor knows I have my carry weapon in the car. However, if they decide to block any of my sites, I would have to inform them of the 'shopping' sites my female co-workers visit frequently.

:evil:

Regolith
January 19, 2008, 03:24 PM
My work happens to be located at my school, which is a public university that refuses to filter anything, as most filtering software will screen out websites that would be relevant to academic inquiry. Hence, no problems connecting anywhere for me. :D

DoubleTapDrew
January 19, 2008, 04:31 PM
Content filters are stupid. Stupid in that they frequently miscategorize sites. I have to go into our content filter and recategorize sites all the time (I object to content filtering but it's not my call). THR is categorized as a weapons site which is for the most part correct. The problem with content filters is due to those general categories this site (along with cabelas and others) gets lumped in the same category sites that have a how-tos for building IED's or something. AR15.com has a backdoor that's called jobrelatedstuff.com :) but I don't remember how it's categorized, probably as a weapons site still.
Going through a proxy is probably the best way, although some places have policies against that also. If you are in a small company and you are nice to the IT person they may unblock it for you as the content here is consistent with the site name.

Colin Doyle
January 19, 2008, 04:59 PM
We've got filters on our computers at work, which block weapons sites, as well as most proxy/anonymizer sites. Despite that, http://anonymizer.nntime.com works OK. :)

Colin

hockeybum
January 19, 2008, 07:36 PM
Yeah, browning, Remington, Ruger, Walther, etc. are all banned at school, but we all have laptops. Theres 3 tech guys vs. 400 students :evil:

www.vtunnel.com - proxy

www.anonycat.com - proxy (don't think its working...)

THR oddly enough is not blocked :D, so i don't get too bored during classes

Jjust google proxy sites and you'll get around most firewalls. Oh and vtunnel, if you type it in, it might come up as blocked, so e-mail yourself the link, and then click on it, it overrides the firewall :evil:

Funderb
January 19, 2008, 07:46 PM
I was just sayin' that it's really unfortunate because this is a valuable resource for informations on firearms, repair, and safety. Good thing we are keeping that away from the kids. Lord knows it would be terrible to teach firearm safety.

Mac Attack
January 19, 2008, 08:58 PM
My company ban's just about every site that has guns, knives, video...etc. Basically all the sites I find interesting are blocked by my company including internet mail like yahoo, hotmail, aol mail and gmail (I found a way to access gmail). Anyways, I found a way to get around the firewall and also make it so they can't see what I am browsing. I highly recommend it.

Check out www.psiphon.com. It is basically a proxy using your own computer.

Bones11b
January 19, 2008, 09:06 PM
Yay me, I work for the PBA. My coworkers and I not only spend lots of time on this site and others, but also bring our guns to work for show and tell. We once had eight pistols in the office and we only had 12 guys working there.

fiddleharp
January 19, 2008, 11:29 PM
When I was driving long haul, I used to buy powerball lottery tickets in certain states I passed through. Then, somewhere down the line I'd try to check the numbers on that state's lottery website. Most public library computers blocked those sites. Sometimes I never did find out the winning numbers. Who knows, I might be a millionaire and don't even know it.

RedLion
January 20, 2008, 03:08 AM
so pretty much its looks like they want to take the first and second amendment with one shot!
pure genius!
After they read this post we'll probably lose all the rest of them too!

Autolycus
January 20, 2008, 03:49 AM
It should be up to the business whether to block it or not. I would disagree with going to THR while at work. If your boss doesnt want you here while on the clock then you should not be here. The same for students, if your at school then the school has the right to block content.

Redlion who is this "they" you are referring to?

Jeffreii
January 20, 2008, 03:55 AM
You are reminding me of when I did some of that programming at an apartment setup - had a lot of tenants doing lot's of different stuff. I never really was into blocking particular content - didn't bother me they can view what they want to view. I blocked services and various program functionalities mostly. And most of the reasoning behind it was to more evenly distribute the bandwidth. I did block some sites though - advertising ones. That was before firefox and the adblock plugins. It was done just with BIND and worked great. Oh, and of course the blocking was optional. Didn't really have anyone who wanted to look at the ads except for a few girls - fashion shopper kind that actually liked them!:rolleyes:

I ran my own linux routers - Linux lets you have pretty much control on what goes on with the IP stack and has decent connection tracking. I never bothered blocking open proxies and I browse the net on many poorly setup networks or "child protection software" computers that either don't have a clue about how to block open proxies or just are not that good at it.

Need a several grand pix firewall or a thrown out 200mhz pentium running Linux. Oh, and an admin that knows what they are doing, too.

novaDAK
January 20, 2008, 03:58 AM
Torpark

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For those of you running Firefox, the Torpark browser (up to version 2.0.0.3) is free. It's a proxied Firefox, and I've been able to run it on pretty much any network. Past v2.0.0.3 I believe it's been rebranded to XeroBank XB Browser, though I've not played with that.

When my previous employer's IT dept decided to start blocking politically conservative blogs (while claiming they weren't), I found that Torpark allowed me access to pretty much whatever.

Yes, you give up some performance, but you don't leave breadcrumbs everywhere, and you can get to wherever you need to go.

Like here.

(Oh, and for those of you NOT running Firefox -- specifically those of you still running IE -- why would you do that to yourself? I run Opera as a rule, Firefox for stuff that Opera doesn't handle right, and IE only when I must.

I lock my car when it's parked, I don't leave it idling when I shop, I lock my (home) doors at night, I don't leave guns on my coffee table with the blinds open, and I don't run IE without a really good reason.)
A BIG +1 to Torpark.

My HS I went to (and graduated from last year) blocked Facebook, and a few other sites. So a friend told me about torpark, and on the one computer in a lab I always used during my CAD drawing class, I put Torpark on while I noticed the computer "unlocked" (program they used called "deep freeze" which undos everything you did on the computer after you log off) so it was on there for the rest of the year.

Now, when I'm not at home on weekends from college, at my school I've never come across a site that was blocked, so I don't think they block any. Not even while using their WiFi in the academic buildings.

Bazooka Joe71
January 20, 2008, 04:10 AM
I love Indiana...I have never been anywhere that blocks any sites related to firearms.:)

Mannix
January 20, 2008, 04:12 AM
I like to keep my browsing habits and info private while using public wifi connections, and the way I do it also happens to get around blocks :). I don't condone using it as such, but I use this setup to keep my data secure while it's traveling over unsecured networks:

1.) Install Hamachi (https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/vpn.asp?lang=en) on both your home PC and your laptop.
2.) Create a passworded network in Hamachi and connect both of your computers to it. The icon next to the name of your computers should both be solid green.
3.) Double click on your home PC in Hamachi from your laptop and see if you can get a ping. If you can't your firewall may need to be configured to put the Hamachi IP of your laptop in your "trusted" zone.
4.) Install a basic proxy server (http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/download/network/proxy.htm)(there are many others out there, but this one is simple and works) on your home PC. Turn on the SOCKS and HTTP proxies, leave the others off, and bind the proxy to the Hamachi IP of your home PC.
5.) Now you need to configure your programs to connect through the proxy, for browsers and IM clients, this is fairly straight forward. For other programs I suggest FreeCap (http://www.freecap.ru/eng/) to "socksify" the program to work with a SOCKS proxy.

Note: The security of this setup also relies on you having a NAT enabled router(if you have broadband, and you have a router between the modem and you(or the modem may be a router itself), you're probably good to go). I wouldn't suggest trying this if all you have at home is dial up.

Now if everything works like it should you ought to have a secure connection to your home PC from your laptop that you can use for almost anything.

Google is your friend for troubleshooting.

Diamondback6
January 20, 2008, 04:18 AM
I can attest that Panera did block THR for a while, however last time I logged on from there I was able to get here just fine.

Standard Firefox, with a whole buncha addons, for my browser.

grimjaw
January 20, 2008, 04:33 AM
Man, they ban CABELAS as my old job. THR might as well be militant terrorists in their eyes.

jm

BobbyQuickdraw
January 20, 2008, 06:20 AM
Its not banned at my office, but a lot of gun sites are. I've noticed that "firearms" "explosives" "local host" and "specialty shopping" get banned, while I guess "weapons" is allowed through.

If I didnt have THR at work I dont know what I'd do. Well actually I'd probably just be on YouTube and read wikipedia all day.

inkhead
January 20, 2008, 06:33 AM
Say what you will about California, but even the most staunch advocate of gun control would have a problem with content being censored. I believe in San Francisco the airport put in some sort of software that blocks bad sites to keep people from getting viruses and such, but because it blocked sites they ended up taking it out.

Just like a public library it's goes against the amendments for them to censor or block you from looking at porn or whatever you want.

With all the internet companies in silicon valley, i've never worked for one that censors anything. If you did that here you would have zero employees. Besides everyone knows how to get around them.

In the midwest I couldn't believe how many companies I visited that BLOCKED employees from visiting websites. I remember working on server equipment and trying to fix services for this midwest company and my personal webmail server was blocked. I demanded the sysadmin there give me full access. He continued to be a jerk, so I went to the CEO and told him I needed full access. They all asked if I was trying to access porn or why I would need to see bad sites. I then explained that I could decide for myself what to view, and if they didn't like it to get rid of me.. After they figured out I was serious that and went to walk out of the building, they called me up offering full access. Needless to say my reply came by way of a company wide email, with a picture of a nude painting.. ;-)


Sorry I get so worked up by censored anything. You can't stop people, take China, everybody knows how to get around the firewalls.

Jkwas
January 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
They had been blocking weapons, political, opinion, and pornography at my workplace. Now they block all news sites as well. Some stuff still flies "under the radar". Before, most would browse in between tasks waiting for their next job. Now they all wander around and IMO are less productive. Some are just protesting by spending none of their free time at their workstations. Some used to skip lunch and stay on station to do work if it was available. Now they don't. Just to give you an idea of the workplace, it's a boiler room type environment, answering phones all day, staring at a wall.
In addition, it seems all the proxies are blocked as well.

fiddleharp
January 20, 2008, 10:15 AM
The most bizarre thing I ever saw was a public library computer in Clewiston, Florida in 2001 that wouldn't let me send the word "hate" in an e-mail.
As I recall, some of us on the Florida Sportsman fishing forum were arguing about something, and I wrote "I hate to break it to you guys, but..."
When I clicked "Submit", it appeared on the site as "I to break it to you guys, but..."
At first I thought it was a typo on my part, but after looking into it, I found it to be some sort of blocking program. Weird! :eek:

TexasRifleman
January 20, 2008, 11:59 AM
You guys keep quoting the First Amendment.

This is not a First Amendment issue. Private companies can block whatever speech they want, that is not protected under the First Amendment.

jetman
January 20, 2008, 01:16 PM
I'm in outside sales and on the road quite a bit. Different Panera Breads locked and some didn't lockout this site and AR15.com, Gunbroker etc... I've since gone to a Verizon Wireless Broadband card and I can get anything I want anytime.

RedLion
January 20, 2008, 04:51 PM
Yeah I guess you guys are right about it not being illegal, but I will probably hate censorship stuff like that for the rest of my life because of a project I had to do in high school about Malcolm X. I had to go through a proxy server to research him because many websites were banned because of racism. A lot of WWII and cold war info was banned too because of violence.

Jeffreii
January 20, 2008, 05:31 PM
Man, they ban CABELAS as my old job. THR might as well be militant terrorists in their eyes.

now I am curisous to see if some networks I am on ban cabelas. I bet they would.

What is fun to do, is the location many filters use is at their website. The website also has a "submit new site" function, and you can list the catagory. When I get those, I type in their website, and list it as "discriminatory" and send it off.

I can see doing stuff for security and all, but most of the time, these things are worthless. You have to change the heart. "outlawing sin" in other words, does not make a sin free society. Making it "not allowed" to view so-called objectionable material is not the way to do it if the objective is to make people not view said content. I do not know why so many people have a hard time with that aspect of this stuff. It is like telling the what but with out the why. Only with God do I have that much trust as to not even care about the why and no that it is right. With man, sorry, "blocking" does not stop. Infact, it, via human nature, encourages.

Gunnerpalace
January 20, 2008, 07:23 PM
Not for me right now Iam on wifi from an ipod touch

website looks great on it!

Trebor
January 20, 2008, 09:23 PM
My employer requires me to check THR every day or so.

Then again, I am self employed.

SuperNaut
January 20, 2008, 09:32 PM
Anecdotal but: I travel a lot, in fact I'm in Anaheim at the Hilton right now on business. I've never had THR blocked anywhere in the world; airport, hotel, motel, venue, whatever.

ServiceSoon
January 20, 2008, 09:52 PM
You guys keep quoting the First Amendment.

This is not a First Amendment issue. Private companies can block whatever speech they want, that is not protected under the First Amendment.Whats your opinion on net neutrality?

TexasRifleman
January 20, 2008, 10:39 PM
Whats your opinion on net neutrality?

Well since the Department of Defense paid for the buildout of DARPA and then the Internet, to the tune of BILLIONS to the phone companies, I think it should be covered by the First Amendment.

If the phone companies want to pay that money back to the Feds then they can do whatever they want.

My opinion anyway.

But, a private business providing free Internet access for some customer service reason can block whatever they want, and I am free to go get my cheeseburger somewhere else :)

Just put me in charge for a while, everything will be fixed. I only need a couple of weeks, a case of beer to confuse Ted Kennedy, and a couple of cases of duct tape.

Halo is for Kids
January 21, 2008, 08:01 PM
I checked at my work today...

THR - banned for weapons content.

zombiehunters.org - free access to veiw and post.

catfish101
January 21, 2008, 09:39 PM
My employer bans just about everything. They block the sports section of TV channel websights. They just want people working not BSing.

I don't travel so I just wait to get home.

CajunBass
January 22, 2008, 08:14 AM
My wife was recently in and out of a couple of hospitals and I found that I coudn't get on any "gun" sites using the hospital computers. I wasn't surprised really. You never know when someone is going to pull a gun out of a computer and go on a rampage. :rolleyes:

Mojo-jo-jo
January 22, 2008, 08:18 AM
Here's a thread from a while back where I posted detailed instructions on how to get around website blocks. You must have a PC at home and broadband for this to work. It's free, relatively easy, and always works.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=297480

Jeffreii
January 22, 2008, 06:52 PM
My friend is in the army and they use (depending on where you are at) a lot of filtering. Sad to say, a lot of it was caused by (sorry, vets):cuss: solders releasing sensitive information out (such as an equipments weak spot) on their blogs and whatnot and then having terrorists (and the public for that matter) know about it :barf: :fire: :mad: :what: :eek::cuss:. The connections in iraq were like that, at least the ones she used, and a lot of times on bases state side as well. I will have to see if she can view THR - i'm curious now. She may not be able to test though as she got her own private connection now (DSL link). They do not like blogs and forums I think, and email and uploading are usually filtered. Sucks as you cannot communicate well :( but I think it depends on where you are at as different places use different filtering.

DANGERRUSS
January 22, 2008, 09:11 PM
Any ideas how to get around "websense" blocks. I tried proxies and they are blocked. I really hate websene-less blocks

03Shadowbob
January 22, 2008, 09:47 PM
Not in WPB, Atlanta, Houston, San Antonio, Charlotte, Philly, Cinci, Dayton, Denver, KC, Reno, and others. Or at least not on mine.

Guitargod1985
January 22, 2008, 10:42 PM
The High Road comes up fine for me at my last college and the one that I currently attend. I must be one of the lucky ones.

Mac Attack
January 22, 2008, 10:52 PM
Shoot! My company must be blocking my Psiphon connection now because I haven't been able to connect for the past few days. Now I have to try something else.

Mojo-jo-jo
January 22, 2008, 11:51 PM
Shoot! My company must be blocking my Psiphon connection now because I haven't been able to connect for the past few days. Now I have to try something else.

It would be unusual for a company to block port 443, the default port that HTTPS (and Psiphon) uses. Blocking this port would make a lot of "legitimate" web sites (basically any web site with a login) stop working. Check first and make sure that your Windows firewall did not turn on. See if you can access your Psiphon proxy from elsewhere, like a friend's house.

If everything else looks good, try changing the port used in Psiphon's setup menu. Valid range is from 1 to 65535. "Common" service ports are below 1024. If your company is blocking ports, try some very common ones that may not be blocked (many applications like email clients, network equipment, etc. depend on these ports):
20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 49, 69, 80, 88, 109, 110, 119, 123.

Also try any above 1024.

You will have to change the URL you use to contact your Psiphon server. For example, if you decide to use port 60000, your new URL will be like https://mypsiphoncomputer.mydomain.com:60000

If you are using any other server software at home, be sure that the port you choose doesn't conflict. If you are running Microsoft RDP at home, you can't use 3389 and if you are running your own personal web server you can't use 80. Also avoid 53, 67, and 68. These may cause things (like DHCP and DNS--network necessities) not to work.

Mojo-jo-jo
January 23, 2008, 12:24 AM
ArfinGreebly - Thanks for the info on Torpark. I had toyed with Tor some time ago, but it was so difficult to get set up back then it wasn't worthwhile.

Unfortunately, I was turned off by the Torpark (now xeroBank) "pay to play" model. A little more research led me to the "FoxyProxy" (http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/) extension for firefox. This works very well and was super-easy to install.

"FoxyProxy" + Tor (http://www.torproject.org/) is just what the doctor ordered for anonymous browsing. However, if anonymity is not your aim, just filtering proxy avoidance, Psiphon is a much speedier solution and doesn't require any software to be installed on the "work" computer.

chrlefxtrt
January 23, 2008, 12:33 AM
Try typing https:// instead of http://

or go to vtunnel(dot)com it is a proxy site.

That is how I get on THR at work. vtunnel hides where you are going so they don't know what restricted sites you are visiting.

Flfiremedic
January 23, 2008, 02:09 AM
Work blocked THR last hitch. It also blocked most of the motorcycle sites I went to. They also publish a list of "catagories" of websites each computer goes to.

Mac Attack
January 23, 2008, 10:43 AM
Mojo Wrote: "If everything else looks good, try changing the port used in Psiphon's setup menu. Valid range is from 1 to 65535. "Common" service ports are below 1024. If your company is blocking ports, try some very common ones that may not be blocked (many applications like email clients, network equipment, etc. depend on these ports):
20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 49, 69, 80, 88, 109, 110, 119, 123."

Mojo, Thanks for the tip. I tried what you said and it's working fine again.

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