How hard to obtain G36 Stateside


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SilentStalker
January 19, 2008, 07:53 PM
Does anyone have a clue how hard it would be to get a G36 stateside? I didn't think it would be all that difficult to obtain one of these but a friend of mine said that it was next to impossible to get these days and even if you did it would be ridiculously expensive. I am still curious though. I know someone that wants one badly despite my efforts to explain to him that the M4/AR15 is just as reliable IMO. Anyways what are your thoughts? I do have a contact at H&K that might could provide some assistance with this but again I have no idea how hard these are to aquire. Thanks for the help.

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squirrel sniper
January 19, 2008, 07:59 PM
you most likely cant get a G36, but HK offers the semi auto version of it. Only hitch is it uses different mags (usually 10 rounds) and costs about $2500

SilentStalker
January 19, 2008, 08:05 PM
The semi-auto version is what he is looking for. The fully auto would be out of the question for lots of different reasons. $2500 to me would be better spent towards a couple of AR's but to each his own I guess. I just cannot see that much of a difference between the two to net paying that much money for the HK unless someone can explain so good valid points that would make the HK more superior. If so, I would love to hear it.

Zundfolge
January 19, 2008, 08:07 PM
You'll want to pick up an HK SL8, have the gray bits died black and swap out the stocks for G36 stocks.

Here's a how-to site http://alpinetek.netfirms.com/guns/SL8/

Since the SL8 only takes 10rd mags, you need to modify it either to take the 30rd G36 mags, or you can modify it to take STANAG mags (which is what I'd recommend)

collateral
January 19, 2008, 08:09 PM
if he wants a rifle with a gas piston in .223/5.56, he would be a LOT better off buying an AR style rifle. It would be much easier for him to find and afford replacement parts, and there is an almost endless combination of aftermarket mods for AR-15s.

plus, a lot of that 2500 dollars could be used at getting mags and ammo. .223 is going up a lot in price, and probably will continue to do so.

LaEscopeta
January 19, 2008, 08:23 PM
A search of this site for G36, SL8 or H&K Hates You will give you the complete facts on this, but I think the way it goes is:

- If you are a police force you can get a G36 in the US, either select fire or semi-only.

- If you are a mere private citizen, you cant get a real one, even in semi-auto.

- As stated above, H&K only sent a semi auto version, with a priority 10 round mag and a thumbhole stock to the US for general sales. This model was called the SL8, and only a few were sold before H&K gave up on the US private owner market. Also as stated above, they go for $2,500+/- on the used market now-a-days.

- A few people converted their SL8s to look like G36s, including 30 round mags and folding stocks. I think the parts for this conversion are still for sale. I dont know what a converted one might cost.

rero360
January 19, 2008, 08:38 PM
I got to play with one in the PX parking lot in the Green Zone in Baghdad, it was one of four that this one German embassy security guy had. It was interesting, pointed well and was comfortable to shoulder but not $2500 comfortable.

squirrel sniper
January 19, 2008, 08:39 PM
as LaEscopeta said, you pay 2500 for the gun, propably 500 +/- to dye it, put a new stock on it, and put a mag conv. on it. For that, you can buy a custom AR, put 1000 in glass,tacticool acces., and mags, and still have 1000 for ammo

xx7grant7x
January 19, 2008, 08:42 PM
check out http://www.sturmgewehr.com/ in the semi auto forum there seems to always be at least a black SL8 and sometimes a converted mag black SL8 on there

taliv
January 19, 2008, 08:46 PM
you won't like the price, and in fact, you'd be pretty well nuts to pay that, but this is as close as you get:

http://hdps.org/htm/2-7-1.htm

Javelin
January 19, 2008, 08:51 PM
My only answer to the G36 purchase would be another question. . . why pay that mound of $$$ for something that wont out-do an AR?

:)

SilentStalker
January 19, 2008, 10:08 PM
^^^That is my point exactly. That is what I am trying to explain to this guy.

collateral
January 19, 2008, 10:22 PM
because you cant be a REAL high speed, low drag operator unless your primary weapon is an HK.

takhtakaal
January 19, 2008, 10:51 PM
because you cant be a REAL high speed, low drag airsoft operator unless your primary weapon is an HK.

There, fixed it for you!

(No knock on SS's buddy, just couldn't resist temptation.)

Zak Smith
January 19, 2008, 11:48 PM
Class 1, 2, or 3 SOT on letterhead.

Gingerbreadman
January 20, 2008, 02:23 AM
Wouldn't a folding stock conversion on an SL8 violate 922?

kimberfan
January 20, 2008, 03:46 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=89135680

SigfanUSAF
January 20, 2008, 07:24 AM
Wouldn't a folding stock conversion on an SL8 violate 922?

Yes, that's the kicker few realize. The folding stock and high cap mag well bring the rifle into 922 territory.

You'll see more G36k out there simply because a registered SBR is NOT subject to 922.

Worst part? There aren't enough US made parts on the market to make a non-SBR SL-8 922r compliant yet;)

LeibstandarteAdH
January 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
as LaEscopeta said, you pay 2500 for the gun, propably 500 +/- to dye it, put a new stock on it, and put a mag conv. on it. For that, you can buy a custom AR, put 1000 in glass,tacticool acces., and mags, and still have 1000 for ammo

You can use rit and a plastic tub, thats what most do. Also, only the very first ones were even grey in the first place.

Gunnerpalace
January 20, 2008, 12:37 PM
First getting an SL8 modded that way or doing the mod is 922r territory, I myself am compiling a letter to the ATF to check the legality of this. I will post when I get an answer back.

Wes Janson
January 20, 2008, 03:06 PM
You'll see more G36k out there simply because a registered SBR is NOT subject to 922.

Are you sure about this? I recall having wondered that very thing before, and hearing a different answer from somewhere..possibly SAR. Are there any letters or documents clearly stating that they are indeed exempt?

Zak Smith
January 20, 2008, 03:09 PM
Someone posted an ATF letter to the GSG-5 thread which I think said that.

LeibstandarteAdH
January 20, 2008, 09:55 PM
SBR'ing a rifle makes it subject to the NFA, and all NFA firearms are Exempt from 922(r) requirements. Weather or not its an NFA item because its fully automatic, or an SBR does not matter, they are both 922(r) exempt.

Zundfolge
January 20, 2008, 11:12 PM
If the guy that wants the G36 wants specifically a G36, then he's going to have difficulty.

If the guy wants a G36 because he wants a high end, non direct impingement 5.56mm semi auto rifle, then he should instead look at the POF rifles. http://www.pof-usa.com/main.htm

They're pricey, and they look vaguely HKish

http://www.pof-usa.com/P-416/P-415-16-P9SX-CF-223-CARBINE(A)1.JPG

Click Click Boom
January 20, 2008, 11:43 PM
I didnt think the POF .308 Rifles were shipping yet.

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