Looking to customize a saiga


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Blarelli
January 20, 2008, 10:20 PM
I'm wanting to get some custom parts for a saiga, and wanting to know what you guys recommend. I would like to get a telescoping stock, pistol grip, and maybe some new sights for it. Any recommendations?

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nalioth
January 20, 2008, 10:41 PM
http://forum.saiga-12.com will have more info on converting these than you can shake a stick at.

rangerruck
January 20, 2008, 11:08 PM
Tapco sells a parts kit for 100 bucks or less, to make your necessary changes. then you can get a Surefire mag, and you will be only 1 part shy for 922 compliance. heck , most guys just get a new piston, or bolt hold openlever, or buffer, or something like that, to be compliant.

nalioth
January 21, 2008, 12:01 AM
heck , most guys just get a new piston, or bolt hold openlever, or buffer, or something like that, to be compliant. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just changing any part you like. The parts that count are listed in the law:

A Saiga Rifle in factory configuration has 14 countable parts.
A Saiga shotgun threaded for chokes has 14 countable parts.
A Saiga shotgun not threaded for chokes has 13 countable parts.

(parts on a factory configuration Saiga are in bold)

(1) Receiver
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks, trunnion (rifles only)
(5) Muzzle attachments (shotguns w/ threaded barrels only)
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstock
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates


If we could change just the parts we wanted to, I could change all the screws in the buttstock out for US made screws and be more than compliant.

elmerfudd
January 21, 2008, 02:23 AM
Nalioth's right. ATF get's to choose what parts count and Saiga's are both one of the easiest imported rifles to violate or to stay compliant with 922r laws. If you convert one to a pistol grip and move the trigger group forward, you almost have to work at it not to comply. Since you have to buy a new hammer/trigger/sear, pistol grip and butt stock anyway, just make sure they're all American made and you're good to go. If on the other hand you just slap on one of the imported pistol grip stocks that don't require a conversion, or start using aftermarket high cap mags, then you have violated 922r.

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