Socom 16/II. Did this rifle realy get.....


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Click Click Boom
January 21, 2008, 07:44 PM
Did the Springfield Armory Socom 16/II or a similar rifle really get a small SOCOM Contract? Did they just test some of the rifles from SA? Or is that rumor just a bunch of BS?

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james_bond
January 21, 2008, 07:50 PM
Never heard any rumors about contracts, but I know the name is Just for marketing and fun, not having anything to do with THe USSOCOM

Click Click Boom
January 21, 2008, 07:53 PM
I recall reading in one of the Gun rags while sitting on the throne that at least one unit used a SA Socom 16/II like rifle from Springfield Armory.

crazed_ss
January 23, 2008, 12:33 AM
I think SA picked the "SOCOM" name cause it sounds cool.. I'd imagine if anyone in SOCOM ever used it, it would be all over the marketing for the rifle.

possum
January 23, 2008, 12:48 PM
as far as i know no they haven't got a contract, it is a cool highspeed name that sells the thing. good marketing if you ask me. but for me i don't really care what a gun is called,if i like it and i want it then i am gonna get it.

austin360
January 23, 2008, 02:07 PM
My wife got me the 16 for Christmas. I love it...

possum
January 23, 2008, 02:10 PM
My wife got me the 16 for Christmas. I love it...
congrats, great wife and welcome to THR!

Eightball
January 23, 2008, 02:15 PM
I'd imagine if anyone in SOCOM ever used it, it would be all over the marketing for the rifle.Correct. Just like how HK says that since some SpecOps guys use a 416 upper, it's the best thing in the world and should be adopted (but, using their previous ideas, still kept out of the hands of the "masses"), but they fail to mention that the reason the 416 gets used is because of the whole "mag dump w/suppressor in crazy environments at close range" requirement that it fills, not the "mainline infantry precision battle rifle" concept.

Through roundabout reasoning, you'd better believe SA would market "Used by SOCOM" for that thing if it was true. If they wouldn't, then....they have a bit to learn from their marketing department.

txstyletj06
January 23, 2008, 10:38 PM
hey Austin360, my gf got me one for Christmas too, she stated her marriage material qualities with this one! Does your handle stand for Austin, TX and HWY 360?

MassMark
January 23, 2008, 11:29 PM
I have a buddy over in Afghanistan who has seen a few here and there, but they are not contracted to provide rifles on an official basis. I wouldn't be surprised if a few operators who are free to choose their weapons have them.

All I know for sure is that I have one and love it! :)

DoubleTapDrew
January 23, 2008, 11:31 PM
They can and do call anything by the most tactical name they can think of. I think I'm going to start calling my chipmunk single shot .22 the "SOCOM OPERATOR DELTA TACTICAL ARMAGEDDONmunk".
I noticed in the socom ads they show some SEALish looking guy low crawling through the mud with what looks more like a M-14 or Scout. Someday I'll be able to procure one I hope (probably an 18" one like a Scout though).

Click Click Boom
January 24, 2008, 12:43 AM
Walther makes a CQB varmit gun in that sill bullpup .22LR... I guess if it isnt tac-ti-cool sounding or looking it wont sell these days.

One of the guys I work with just finished 20 years with Uncle Same and says he has seen a few in the last few years.

HorseSoldier
January 24, 2008, 01:32 AM
I have a buddy over in Afghanistan who has seen a few here and there, but they are not contracted to provide rifles on an official basis. I wouldn't be surprised if a few operators who are free to choose their weapons have them.


Taking privately owned weapons downrange can be seriously bad, career ending or worse, ju-ju even in special operations units.

austin360
January 24, 2008, 04:41 PM
hey Austin360, my gf got me one for Christmas too, she stated her marriage material qualities with this one! Does your handle stand for Austin, TX and HWY 360?

Indeed it does...

squirrel sniper
January 24, 2008, 10:30 PM
It might be uncle sam taking some of those M-14s sitting in warehouses and choping them down for spec ops. If not, its probably a apec ops unit that is allowed to choose their load out.

Andrewsky
January 25, 2008, 12:43 AM
There's really no proof that SOCOMs are used by the US military.

On the other hand, I've seen pictures of contractors using 22" barreled Springfield Armory Inc. M1As with scopes in Iraq. So I imagine there could be some contractors using them.

takhtakaal
January 25, 2008, 12:47 AM
Socom Ii:

Bring Enough

Marketing Hype!

HorseSoldier
January 25, 2008, 01:28 AM
If not, its probably a apec ops unit that is allowed to choose their load out.

Anybody that has enough latitude to buy rifles from Springfield Armory would have more than enough clout to get real M14s with all mil-spec parts custom modded by Crane.

Gewehr98
January 25, 2008, 02:46 AM
And it seems to be working for Springfield, Inc.

Just like how HK says that since some SpecOps guys use a 416 upper, it's the best thing in the world and should be adopted (but, using their previous ideas, still kept out of the hands of the "masses")

Umm, news flash: HK couldn't import their 416 uppers due to the recent BATF ban on importation of barrels for non-sporting rifles. That's the same ban that put the kibosh on AK and FN-FAL barrels, too. It had nothing to do with HK not wanting to sell them here, and in fact, they're opening a stateside plant to build them - with the eventual intent of selling them on the commercial market, not just military and law enforcement. ;)

Whether I'd pay what HK wants for a 416 upper, that's another story.

Draven32
January 25, 2008, 03:18 AM
HK already has a rather large stateside plant.

Gewehr98
January 25, 2008, 03:52 PM
They have another plant going up in Columbus, GA, too.

Maybe we'll have a pleasant surprise at SHOT 2008?

http://www.hkpro.com/hkpro416civilianannouncement.htm

Draven32
January 25, 2008, 08:56 PM
Sweet. I should have gotten an education in CNC machining instead of film.

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