Has Bill Engvall ever actually SEEN a gun?


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MASTEROFMALICE
January 24, 2008, 03:40 PM
I swear to God, if Bill Engvall references a "laser scope" or a "12 guage Mauser" one more time, I'm gonna snap like a twig.

Can anyone here tell me why a guy from New Jersey (me) knows a whole hell of a lot more about guns than a self-proclaimed hunter from Texas?

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Wedge
January 24, 2008, 03:42 PM
There'd your problem. If you had been from TX you would know that we all have 12 gauge Mauser's with laser scopes down here.

NG VI
January 24, 2008, 03:43 PM
who is bill engvall?

Quoheleth
January 24, 2008, 03:44 PM
I think as much as anything else it's gross overstatement (aka "hyperbole"). If you're a gun entheusiast, you'll know it for what it is - bull - and laugh at the ridiculous statement ("Good golly...what kind of numbnut would call it a 12 gauge Mauser...we all know it's really a 16 gauge Mauser that uses the laser scope") while the non-gun crowd will laugh anywayand perhaps feel a little less threatened to hear the laughter from others.

Don't sweat it...he might be a Bubba, but remember: he's been Hollywoodized. :cool:

Q

NG VI
January 24, 2008, 03:45 PM
wow we have double tap protection? that's righteous!

winchester243
January 24, 2008, 03:45 PM
Here's your sign.

ACP230
January 24, 2008, 03:46 PM
Well, there actually have been Mauser bolt rifles converted to 12 gauge.
They were pretty poor excuses for a shotgun, and some may have been unsafe to fire, but they were Mauser 12 gauges.

romma
January 24, 2008, 03:49 PM
Bill Enduall is not funny at all

BigG
January 24, 2008, 03:49 PM
He is a "dumb" redneck, so I take it he has seen a gun. Right in the back window of his pickup truck. :neener:

OAKVILLE SHOOTER
January 24, 2008, 03:50 PM
Well, there actually have been Mauser bolt rifles converted to 12 gauge.
They were pretty poor excuses for a shotgun, and some may have been unsafe to fire, but they were Mauser 12 gauges.

And Zeiss makes a scope with a laser range finder built in, so maybe it is a "laser scope."

strangelittleman
January 24, 2008, 03:52 PM
Well, your first mistake was watching anything w/ him, or the cable guy, or any of the rest of the corn-pone worthless slobs involved. That kind of garbage, WWE, gangsta rap, sitcoms, lawyer dramas, any of the CSI series, etc., are all fine examples of dumbed-down T.V. for a declining society.

Someone once said, "No great society was ever conquered from without before it was destroyed from within."

Zedicus
January 24, 2008, 04:05 PM
Actually I did some research and their is an obscure el-cheapo brand of Scopes Brand Named "Laser" (no website) I have seen them once at cabelas.

Quality wise thier just behind Bushnell and Tasco, they range in price between $15 & $80 and most of thier models are for air rifles & 22LR they don't make one for a larger Rifle cal than 30-06 (just think super cheap redneck hunting scope).

The Annoyed Man
January 24, 2008, 04:07 PM
I must be a threat to the common decency, because I find Bill Engvall moderately funny, including the references to "12 gauge Mausers." That doesn't mean that I base my politics or my personal morality on his humor or anything like that.

I was watching a comedy show on TV once. It was "The Original Kings of Comedy," with an all black lineup consisting of guys like Cedric the Entertainer, Steve Harvey, and Bernie Mac. Now, I consider myself to be an evangelical Christian and I take my faith seriously, so I was initially pleased when pretty much each of the comedians, as he came on stage, made a personal profession of faith before launching into his routine. On the other hand, I was mortified that, right after professing his faith, each one launched into the bluest comedy you've ever heard. I mean, it was raunchy; far raunchier than the Blue Collar Comedy guys. On one hand, I was put off by the conflation of faith with raunch, on the other hand, it was pretty damned funny and hard not to laugh.

But Bill Eckvall and his crew are pretty tame by comparison. To each his own I suppose. I don't spend a ton of time watching that stuff, but neither do I let it make me tight jawed when I do. I can always change the channel.

RKBABob
January 24, 2008, 04:10 PM
NG VI Wrote: who is bill engvall?
He's an actor/comedian. I think he did stand-up, and was on Designing Women... which was the worst show ever, and probably would have killed his career if he hadn't discovered that being dumb sells. He now portrays a redneck on The Jeff Foxworthy Show and Blue Collar TV.

novaDAK
January 24, 2008, 04:13 PM
Whenever I heard him say that, I always assumed he knew what he was talking about and was just grossly exaggerating to make the situation completely ridiculous.

Would any non gun person even know what a Mauser is? It's not a common "gun" name like "Remington" when your typical idiot thinks 'hunting rifle.'

Mikee Loxxer
January 24, 2008, 04:22 PM
Well put strangelittleman. I couldn't agree more.

DoubleTapDrew
January 24, 2008, 04:24 PM
Whenever I heard him say that, I always assumed he knew what he was talking about and was just grossly exaggerating to make the situation completely ridiculous.

Same here. Besides I don't watch stand up comedy for education on firearms. I crank up the suspension of disbelief, kick back, and enjoy it (if that's your type of humor) without overanalyzing everything. Ron White talks about mounting a set of headlights on bullets and slowing them down to 55mph to get more deer kills.
If someone went through all the proper terminology in a stand up act it would either fly over the heads of most of the audience or put them to sleep.

ARKIESTEEL
January 24, 2008, 04:29 PM
Terms like "bubba" and "redneck" sure help bring the gun folks together. Seems like if there is going to be a fight to keep our guns it would be much better to not always throw the term "bubba" and or "redneck" at folks that just own firearms for hunting.


Just my thoughts carry on as you will.

MilsurpShooter
January 24, 2008, 04:36 PM
I take him with a grain of salt and always attributed it to... over-grandization I guess? He's not trying to be factual IMO. I watch him and the rest of that crew for some laughs, not to learn how to take apart a firearm. Him calling them 12 guage Mausers ranks up there with myself calling most of the new rifles Remchesterby's lol (all look alike to me)

And even some hunters are not as "in the know" with firearms as some of us here. I avoid the range during hunting season, people there I've never seen before. Struck up a conversation with a guy once and his exact words:

"I only fire this during huntin season, a few to make sure it's sighted in and then when I take a deer"

Had to look at the reciever, didn't even know what brand it was.

mp510
January 24, 2008, 04:40 PM
"12 guage Mauser"
Actually, I saw a Mauser that was chambered for 12 gauge. I don't know if the barrel was factory or aftermarket, or custom- but apparently there is such a beast. Cabelas was selling it, and it wasn't cheap.

RKBABob
January 24, 2008, 04:44 PM
Terms like "bubba" and "redneck" sure help bring the gun folks together.Whoa there, Arkiesteel. Nobody's calling anyone on THR a "bubba." If you watch Blue Collar TV you'll see Engvall, Foxworthy, and Larry the Cable Guy throwing these terms at each other like its a badge of honor.

We all know how Jeff Foxworthy's stand-up routine goes, right?

If ya ever heard yer mother ask the officer writin' her a ticket to hold her beer... Ya might be a redneck!

tydephan
January 24, 2008, 04:45 PM
I'm sorry, but this is funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXjKr7CNRB0

Parts 2 and 3 are available in the right-side menu.

IBTL. :D

To keep this somewhat gun-related (a real stretch at this point), I was surprised when on an episode of The Bucks of Tecomate, Jeff Foxworthy cracked himself in the nose with the scope when he touched off a round that dropped a big buck out in Texas.

bogie
January 24, 2008, 04:47 PM
I'll betcha he's either from New York or LA, and discovered that accents are funny...

ARKIESTEEL
January 24, 2008, 04:50 PM
RKBABob, I have seen the term "bubba" used on here(THR) to describe folks who just use guns for hunting. I mean no insult to anyone or am I trying to start trouble. I was mainly saying that these terms could drive a wedge between a group that needs to stick together if they try to change the gun laws again.

Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

Uglyoldpoorman
January 24, 2008, 04:55 PM
Ya'll shut up! What with hatin Fem-A-Nazis, Liberals, Liberal comedians, 99.9% of all actors, tree huggers, abortionists, PETA, and on and on about the only tv I get to watch anymore is reruns of the Rifleman.:eek:

divemedic
January 24, 2008, 04:56 PM
When I hear this it reminds me of an old Sam Kinnison bit- he was saying that he gets complaints because his jokes about abortion are not medically accurate.

He says, "Excuse me, but I slept through the class on abortion while I was in medical school learning how to write medically correct humor."

In other words, sometimes entertainment is just entertainment. Lighten up.

Brad Johnson
January 24, 2008, 05:13 PM
I'll betcha he's either from New York or LA, and discovered that accents are funny...

From IMDB:

Birth Name: William Ray Engvall, Jr
Born: 27 July 1957
Location: Galveston, TX

Brad

possom813
January 24, 2008, 05:14 PM
Had to look at the reciever, didn't even know what brand it was.

I don't think that's too bad. I've got a friend that has forgotten more about guns than I'll ever have. There have been times when I was at his home and a gun would be in the corner and I'd ask him what it was and he would tell me the caliber, but had to check it for the brand.

I don't think it was because he forgot, just that he has so many that he can't keep them all straight.

scout26
January 24, 2008, 05:14 PM
I watch comedians to laugh and check THR to learn about guns.

Zundfolge
January 24, 2008, 05:15 PM
12 Ga Mauser
http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---boise---european-sg---571313-mausersxs-boi.shtml

Laser Scope
http://www.somecampingstoreonline.net/catalog/product.asp?ret_id=965775&pid=58077


also in Redneck, "sight" and "scope" are often interchangeable.

Wedge
January 24, 2008, 05:22 PM
Zundfolge, nicely done

Wheeler44
January 24, 2008, 05:36 PM
There was a Mauser 12 ga. for sale here on the THR less than one year ago.

Stump Water
January 24, 2008, 05:38 PM
Well, your first mistake was watching anything w/ him, or the cable guy, or any of the rest of the corn-pone worthless slobs involved. That kind of garbage, WWE, gangsta rap, sitcoms, lawyer dramas, any of the CSI series, etc., are all fine examples of dumbed-down T.V. for a declining society.

Interesting. Most of those types of programming have been going on for decades. I imagine the Coliseum was also responsible for the fall of Rome.

It must be something to not allow yourself to be entertained.

TCB in TN
January 24, 2008, 05:43 PM
I don't worry about folks who watch

WWE, gangsta rap, sitcoms, lawyer dramas, any of the CSI series, etc.,

for entertainment, I worry about those who watch them for informational purposes!

strangelittleman
January 24, 2008, 05:44 PM
Well, Stump Water, Marcus Aurelius warned the Romans of the distraction of "Bread and Circuses" so yes, in part, the games of the Coliseum play into the fall of Rome.
I do not allow myself to not be entertained. I just choose quality entertainment.
I choose not to be one of the flock that is ignorantly blissful of the fact that we're all marching towards the cliff.

Snarlingiron
January 24, 2008, 05:53 PM
In other words, sometimes entertainment is just entertainment. Lighten up....divemedic

I choose not to be one of the flock that is ignorantly blissful of the fact that we're all marching towards the cliff....strangelittleman

"Sometime, a cigar is just a cigar"...Sigmund Freud

Walkalong
January 24, 2008, 05:59 PM
Well, your first mistake was watching anything w/ him, or the cable guy, or any of the rest of the corn-pone worthless slobs involved. That kind of garbage, WWE, gangsta rap, sitcoms, lawyer dramas, any of the CSI series, etc., are all fine examples of dumbed-down T.V. for a declining society.

Someone once said, "No great society was ever conquered from without before it was destroyed from within."Can I get an Amen?

shc1
January 24, 2008, 06:06 PM
Remchesterby's:eek:

Your not making fun of my Remchesterby’s, ,,,are ya?

You can make fun of my Jennpoint’s and such but not my Remchesterby’s.:D

Stump Water
January 24, 2008, 06:10 PM
Well, Stump Water, Marcus Aurelius warned the Romans of the distraction of "Bread and Circuses" so yes, in part, the games of the Coliseum play into the fall of Rome.

Meaning... don't just concentrate on the fun stuff and forget about the important stuff.

What is "quality entertainment" to one man may be folly to another. As this thread has illustrated.

The Deer Hunter
January 24, 2008, 06:15 PM
I read somewhere that at one point someone (or people) sporterized Mausers (I don't know what model) and re barreled them into single shot shotgun.

The Annoyed Man
January 24, 2008, 06:19 PM
Well, Stump Water, Marcus Aurelius warned the Romans of the distraction of "Bread and Circuses" so yes, in part, the games of the Coliseum play into the fall of Rome.

I do not allow myself to not be entertained. I just choose quality entertainment.
I choose not to be one of the flock that is ignorantly blissful of the fact that we're all marching towards the cliff.And the bread and circuses were part of the Roman empire's deliberate plan to distract the masses. Our government is not so well organized, and based on what is actually aired versus the complaints from the viewers, the government doesn't really give a damn what goes on the air; so your analogy doesn't really stand up. And one man's grape juice is another man's merlot. If you don't like grape juice, don't buy it. It doesn't make your entertainment choices necessarily any better than anyone else's. It just makes them your preference. Sure, low brow humor can be crude and an appeal to ignorance, but its molecular opposite can be stuffy and stultified. True balance is found somewhere in between.

Personally, I enjoy a broad spectrum of humor, from the heady to the folksy.

strangelittleman
January 24, 2008, 06:43 PM
Stump Water & Annoyed Man, Very well stated indeed, thanks for the great debates!!!

dirtyjim
January 24, 2008, 06:44 PM
i have a 12 guage mauser, so all i need is a laser pointer & some ducktape.
there are basically 3 version of mauser shotguns. the geha, the remo & the hard hit heart. the geha is the base model with a cutdown gew98 stock the remo & HHH's have aftermarket stocks.
pic of my geha 12ga (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/geha.jpg)

i think bill & jeff are funny but i cant stand larry

Grandpa Shooter
January 24, 2008, 06:52 PM
If I even owned a TV or watched someone else's I guess I would understand this tread better. What all are you rednecks arguing about anyway?:D

elrod
January 24, 2008, 07:34 PM
Seems like if there is going to be a fight to keep our guns it would be much better not to always throw the term "Bubba" and or "Redneck" at folks that just own firearms for hunting.

If ya'll do that, I ain't gonna know when you'uns 'a talking to me! :D
Guess ya'll hafta hollar"Hey You!

political correctness at its best, and I feel good about it!:rolleyes:

Scanr
January 24, 2008, 08:35 PM
"Has he seen a gun?" Well, he is up here in Reno Nevada performing for the SCI (Safari Club International) convention. There are a lot of guns to look at there, so he should see a few.

catfish101
January 25, 2008, 12:05 AM
I am from KY. Easy on the redneck stuff...:D

MASTEROFMALICE
January 25, 2008, 12:35 PM
A few people made the predictable point that it's comedy and so all should be forgiven.

But I guarantee this: If a comedian kept saying things like "Thank God Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence before he was killed in 1963."

It would be funny at first, but there's a point where people would start saying, ".......saaayyyyyyy. He ACTUALLY doesn't know what the hell he's talking about!"

Wheeler44
January 25, 2008, 01:49 PM
A few people made the predictable point that it's comedy and so all should be forgiven.


And quite a few also made the very predictable point that the items mentioned in the original post ( mauser shotgun, laser scope) exist. So there is really no need for forgiveness, unless you need to be forgiven for not knowing about them prior to this thread. (insert smiley face) If that is the case I offer forgiveness, as penance shoot 10 targets and buy a redneck a beer.

CZ223
January 25, 2008, 02:18 PM
I don't suspect that he researches everything he jokes about. I think he is incredibly funny but not as funny as Ron "Tater Salad" White. Larry is a little too crude and I have heard Jeff Foxwothy too often. If you haven't heard Ron tell his story of his brother-in-law describing his deer hunting trip, well lets just say that it is funny.

SaxonPig
January 25, 2008, 10:40 PM
I suspect that he is simply using funny terminology for laughs.

One of his routines is about taking his wife deer hunting which he said is his favorite activity.

jdh
January 25, 2008, 11:44 PM
98 Mauser (based) shotguns
http://texastradingpost.com/militaria/geha.html

stevereno1
January 26, 2008, 12:09 AM
Is he the drunk one that everyone sits through in order to see jef foxworthy, or is he the idiot with the cut off sleeves who says get her done a lot!

MM
January 26, 2008, 12:41 AM
It's just low-octane humor, lighten-up, you'll live longer!
MM

joebogey
January 26, 2008, 09:47 AM
I am from KY. Easy on the redneck stuff...

That makes two of us. That's enough to start a ruckus. ;)

But I don't mind bein called redneck. And I hope that I never get to the point that I'm so uptight that I can't sit down and laugh at a little. Some of these guys need boxers instead of briefs. :rolleyes:

Grizzly Adams
January 26, 2008, 01:24 PM
Seems like if there is going to be a fight to keep our guns it would be much better not to always throw the term "Bubba" and or "Redneck" at folks that just own firearms for hunting.

If ya'll do that, I ain't gonna know when you'uns 'a talking to me!
Guess ya'll hafta hollar"Hey You!

I'm with you elrod. Say whers we git som shine an chitlins?

joebogey
January 26, 2008, 01:36 PM
I'm with you El Rod. Say whers we git som shine an chitlins?

shine..I'm in. specially if its' got sum o them big ol straw burries in it. Or grape would be good too.
chitlins...I'm out. I don't care what chu put in'em
gives me gas :(

you know what wuld be good? a drinkin straw burrie shine, cleanin my faverite gun and a watchin ol Bill Engvall on the tv set.
now thats good, I don't keer who you ar.

jasper371
January 26, 2008, 03:09 PM
If it has'nt already been stated, i think hes from Ohio. When i lived there, before the redneck comedy tour even started, Bill Engvall was doing a similar routine for a Ohio radio show. It was pretty funny, then foxworthy discovered him and through him on TV.

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