FAL: What makes a STG58?


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islandphish
January 24, 2008, 04:08 PM
First I want everyone to know that I have spent quite a bit of time at the FalFiles but the reference threads are so tortuous I couldn't find what I wanted. Maybe a honcho from over there will read this and prompt them to revamp for ease of use.

So my question is what makes a STG58 a STG58? Which furniture, which muzzled devices, sights, the whole shebang.

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nathan
January 24, 2008, 04:16 PM
Its Austrian version of the FAL. Steyr made barrel, the receiver is metric, the muzzle brake if you call it has the wirecutter feature, the metal handguard, folding bipod and shorter plastic buttock.
I sold mine last year and it was a solid built rifle. It gave me 2.5 inch groups with S African ammo at 100 yds open sights. The thing that wear me down was the shear weight. I replaced it with the M 1 Garand which is same weight but it pack s more punch yonder.

islandphish
January 24, 2008, 06:40 PM
Was there just one flash hider. I am seeing references to a longer one and a shorter. If there were, which is preferable?

Also are the stock pieces plastic or metal? which is preferable?

Is there a way to identify parts on a stg kit to locate batch or year of manufacture?

In short, how would one know if they have a complete stg kit rifle or a mongrel?

HorseSoldier
January 24, 2008, 11:19 PM
Was there just one flash hider. I am seeing references to a longer one and a shorter. If there were, which is preferable?

I don't have a definite answer, but the real .mil StG-58s I've seen/handled have all had the long flash hider.

powermad
January 25, 2008, 03:51 AM
This is about as close to a true STG as you are able to get.
Unissued STG kit built on a DSA type 1 receiver.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/Guns/P1000584.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/Guns/P1000583.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/Guns/P1000582.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/Guns/P1000581.jpg

islandphish
January 25, 2008, 04:01 AM
Good pics powermad, and nice shop.

powermad
January 25, 2008, 07:28 AM
Now that I am home from work..
Was there just one flash hider. I am seeing references to a longer one and a shorter. If there were, which is preferable?

AFAIK there is just the long one that was issued. DSA does sell a cut down version though.

Also are the stock pieces plastic or metal? which is preferable?

The early versions had a wood stock, the later ones had the straight comb plasic stock. The handguards are metal.
As for preference.. fire off a few mags and you will find that the metal handguards get really freakin hot pretty fast. Then it's deploy bipod time or wear a welding glove. Or a chicken mitt if ya can find one.

Is there a way to identify parts on a stg kit to locate batch or year of manufacture?

In short, how would one know if they have a complete stg kit rifle or a mongrel?

STG barrels will have the Steyer proof marks and all parts should be numbers matching.
A few early ones are made by FN but they are pretty rare.

The carry handle is a round ribbed style, the gas plug is a quick release type, the magazine has witness holes for the ammo, early barrels have a long gas tube. Later ones used a short gas tube silver soldered to the gas block, not to be confused with a short gas system.

Those pics don't do it justice, it is a fine piece of work. Numbers and letters all painted, attention to detail from front to rear.

islandphish
January 25, 2008, 04:07 PM
Cool.

As you may have guessed I've got my eye on one.

What would the barrell markings be?

ftierson
January 25, 2008, 06:15 PM
Adding a little more...

The first 20,000 or so StG-58s were made by FN...

The earlier produced Austrian barrels for the StG-58 did not have the Steyr trademark. Later ones did...

Nice rifle in the photos, powermad...

Forrest

silverlance
January 25, 2008, 07:11 PM
The handguards do get real hot.
But the bipod is VERY effective. I never thought it would be until I actually used it.

I have a video of a custom STG58 that we built.
Not the best photography, but I'm no expert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiTJYnJFwO0

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