5.7x28 on a Dillon 550
Tarvis
January 24, 2008, 07:31 PM
So, apparently Dillon hasn't elected to make a shellplate for 5.7 which leaves a single stage the current option. HOWEVER, being the mad scientist I am, I get the feeling it is possible to use something close enough to hold the brass in place even though it isn't designed for 5.7x28. Has anyone tried this? How many people out there are reloading 5.7x28? Maybe we should petition Dillon ;).
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Shipwreck
January 24, 2008, 08:14 PM
There are a few reloaders of 5.7x28mm on the FN Forum...
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 12:12 AM
Ah, shipwreck. I been checkin out the FN forum all night, looks like youve posted on every single thread ;). I'm really thinkin on getting a ps90 with my tax return, eventually the FiveseveN to match, but I'm still scratchin my head at $1300 for a really REALLY cool rifle, but I just don't know. A lot of people that have them love them, but I could take that cash and build an AR. I just can't decide. I suppose for what I'm going to use it for, either would work great, my major concern is the high sight radius on the PS90. I saw the aftermarket reciever made by Thompson Machine, but I don't really like the way it looks, or the cost.
I guess when it gets down to the brass tax, I am a reloader, and I have shed my single stage shackles as I fly gracefully into Dillon Heaven. I can't comprehend single-staging rabbit ammo. 3 hours of reloading for 4 hours of shooting, no thanks. So, unless someone has found a way to mickey mouse a shell plate for 5.7x28, I'm stickin to .223 or upgrading to 6.8spc.
Shipwreck
January 25, 2008, 12:40 PM
Check out the mini FAQ I made on the PS90 ( http://fnforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=4286 ) - the height issue over the bore really doesn't matter. You are not shooting long distances. And, with an unmagnified optic - its rare to shoot past 100 yards with it. If I was shooting 300 yards, I could see the need to not have the optic quite so high.
But, it is a personal defense weapon. Heck, I do 99% of my shooting at 50 yards with it, and I can get 1/2 groups with it, if I do my part.
It is so much fun to shoot, and low recoil.
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 06:48 PM
Once I see one for $900 Ill buy it ;). Maybe a used one, if I could find someone that doesn't want thiers... yeah right.
robsc
January 25, 2008, 09:28 PM
Fiocchi makes ammo for FN 5.7x28mm. This cartridge comes from the factory with a type of shellac coating which no one outside of Fiocchi knows what it is. This shellac coating is REQUIRED for the cartridge to correctly function in the PS90/P90 weapon. Without the coating the gun will jam. However, the shellac coating is NOT needed for ammo used in the FN FiveseveN USG pistol. I don`t know what other shellac coatings will work for the reloaded ammo used in the PS90. Once the factory ammo is fired in the PS90, that fired case must be recoated to function properly again.
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 09:33 PM
Kinda sounds like steel casings. Its definetly not brass.
Roccobro
January 25, 2008, 09:41 PM
Once I see one for $900 Ill buy it
Government F/A models are less than that. just irks me to no end...
Justin
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 09:53 PM
You gotta realize that the difference between the cost of semi and full auto is negligable. What drives the cost up is the supply and demand curves. Why would FN sell ps90s for $900 when people buy 'em for $1100 up to $1700? It's economics my friend. It sucks, but I guess if no one bought 'em for more than $1100, the price would drop or they'd stop selling them. What can you do, I guess :(.
robsc
January 25, 2008, 09:54 PM
The cases are reloadable brass. The shellac coating is required because of the PS90 internal design.
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 10:03 PM
On all 5.7 brass?
taliv
January 25, 2008, 10:13 PM
somebody does make a 5.7x28 shellplate for the 550, but it's not from dillon. search the fivesevenforum.com site.
Tarvis
January 25, 2008, 10:17 PM
Thanks taliv, thats what I needed!!
Roccobro
January 26, 2008, 01:03 PM
Why would FN sell ps90s for $900 when people buy 'em for $1100 up to $1700? It's economics my friend. It sucks, but I guess if no one bought 'em for more than $1100, the price would drop or they'd stop selling them.
That is why I have not bought any of the models, but have bought 5.7 ammo. ;)
Makes me laugh when I see the prices like the FS2000 at $2200+. Seems to me FN is creating their own supply "shortage" when they are not selling all that great because of the price.
Oh, and has the price of an individual round dropped like FN promised years ago yet? FN promised it would go down once they "caught up" with production, and/or initial demand went down. Even with other mfgrs finally producing I have yet to see a drop... Of course here we are years later and even a lowly .223 round is at least that much. I guess we are lucky FN produced 5.7 ammo is still the same price now that all others have skyrocketed.
Justin
Tarvis
January 26, 2008, 01:41 PM
Well, its not that they are creating a shortage, more like they know how many they can sell to thier distributors at a given price, and the distributors know how many they can sell to thier buyers at a given price, same with the gun stores. If they're happy with the sales they are at, good luck to them. There is a store outside boise that has the tri-rail for like $2200, when I asked him why the price was so high, he said "Its the trirail version and you can't buy 'em elsewhere with all the stuff that comes with this one." I asked what came with it, he said 2 mags and a brass catcher, maybe something else. I guess he paid too much for it and doesn't know that I can buy one on Gunbroker.com for $1400 and buy 4 mags, a sling, a ps90 bag, optics, dies, reloading components, and a brass catcher for that price. O well I guess.
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