[DeadEye]

I recently came into posession of what I thought to be an old, pre-ban Marlin 30-30 lever action. Turns out it is a Coast To Coast "Master Mag" Model CC779 in 30-30, whatever that is.

Can anyone please help shed some light on this rifle?

[Grump]

Coast to Coast (Hardware?) apparently private-labeled Marlins, just like Sears and Western Auto used to do with Mossbergs, etc.

To ID this one, look more closely at the parts than the markings.

Pre-ban on leverguns matters not for the Feds. Does your state care about the manufacture date of NON-semiautos???

Edit: WELCOME TO THR!!!

[DeadEye]

Good idea, and thanks for the welcome!

I'll tear it apart and post some pictures. I don't have an actual Marlin to compare it to. Pre-ban matters to ME since it holds 4 more rounds than the new Marlins. ;)

[DeadEye]

Some exterior shots:


http://jeepboard.com/marlin/1.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/2.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/3.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/4.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/5.jpg

[DeadEye]

http://jeepboard.com/marlin/6.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/7.jpg
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/8.jpg
notice the small (P) located on top, behind the rear sites
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/9.jpg
It came tapped for a scope
http://jeepboard.com/marlin/10.jpg
Stocks look like those found on the Marlin, with the exception of the forward sling mount, which is not attached to the forestock bracket like they are on the Model 336

Does anyone have an onld Marlin lying around to compare these to?

[Mal H]

The cross-over listing in the Blue Book lists the Coast to Coast Mod 779 as a Mossberg Model 479.

Looking at the Mossberg Mod 479 info, it was manufactured in 1985 only and is not valued very high.

[DeadEye]

Thank you! That sure looks like it, alright. Mind if I ask what value you found?

[DJJ]

That's your basic Uncle Mike's magazine tube sling swivel mount.

It holds 4 more rounds than the new Marlins? How many is that, and how long are the barrel and magazine?

[Correia]

There is no capacity limit on the new Marlins. You can still get them with tubes out to the end of the barrel.

[DeadEye]

The ones I've seen do have the full-length tube, but they only hold 4 rounds. Mine holds 8. It is the same length as the newer model Marlins. In fact, it appears to accept some of the same accessories, such as sling and scope mounts. Most of the new rifles I've been looking at only hold 4 rounds. :confused:

[Correia]

The AWB had some rules concerning what it called "high capacity feeding devices", that the ATF tried to say applied to things like the 14 shot pistol caliber lever guns imported by some of the Italian companies. But the AWB applies to semi autos, and the Marlin does not have a detachable mag so there is no preban lever guns.

I've seen 4 shot Marlins in 30-30 and 45-70, but I have also seen capacitys over that as well. I'm not a big lever gun fan, but you could probably check their webpage and see what they have available.

[Mal H]

DeadEye - The values listed for the Mossberg 479 are:
100% -- $190
95% -- $160
90% -- $150
Then it goes down $5 for each additional 10% lower.

The CC779 may be worth more or less depending on the collectibility of it. If you can locate a collector of lever actions who is interested in it, I'd be surprised.

[DJJ]

Are you sure it's the same length as the current ones? Mine has a 20" barrel and full-length tube, and it holds 6, and if you lay 6 rounds end-to-end alongside it, they take up all but about 3" of the tube. Maybe you've got a 24"?

[Jim K]

The reason the gun is a bit odd looking for a Marlin is that it is a Mossberg. Mossberg made two similar rifles, the Model 472 and the Model 479, and there were variations. The 472 was discontinued in 1976; the 479 came out around 1983. The 472 was also sold as the Western Field Model 72.

The action and locking system are pure Marlin, so the mistake in that direction is understandable. Only the shape of some parts differs. I don't know what arrangement (if any) Mossberg made to use the basic Marlin action, though I would guess the patents had long expired.

In the event, neither of the Mossberg rifles were big sellers and each lasted only about a year. I don't know of any collector interest aside from a few (very few) Mossberg collectors.

Jim

[blue86buick]

Hey, just for S&G (___ and giggles), could you take a picture of the whole gun, laying on it's left side? And if you wouldn't mind, first lay 8 30-30 rounds below it from the loading port foward, so we can see what they'd look like in the tube. :)

I just got a 336 30-30, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

[DeadEye]

(This is my first centerfire rifle, so please bare with my stupidity...)

Has anyone purchased a Marlin 30-30 from WalMart? I was told by them...numerous times...that their rifle only holds 3+1 rounds. Mine holds 6+1 (the guy I got it from told me 8), as shown below. I can *almost* get a 7th round in the chamber - are there differences in cartridge length?

Looking at the Marlin site, however, it looks like almost all of their 30-30's hold 6+1 (5+1 in some cases), but don't mention 3+1. Looking through some of their safety features, it sure sounds like my rifle as well.


http://jeepboard.com/30-30.jpg

So, my question to all of you is "How many rounds does YOUR 30-30 hold?"

I'd also like to thank everyone for their input...this site is great!!! Would one of the owners/operators please e-mail me?

[blue86buick]

LOL, wow...*I've* got a 30-30 (Marlin 336 w/ camo sling) that I bought from Wal Mart...got it for 195 because it was in the wrong slot too. :D (though I feel a little bad about it)

Anywho, they don't know jack. Mine too holds 6+1, as you can see by the picture. And, it almost holds 7, but not quite.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=408079

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=408081

[BluesBear]

While the Mossberg lever action rifles do bear some resembalance to the Marlin the big difference is that the trigger moves with the lever.

This was touted in the catalogs of Sears and other hardware type companies who sold these as enabling fast repeat shot with no danger of pinching the trigger finger. This was the old west equavalent of "M1 Thumb".

Anyone who thought they could fire their Marlin or Winchester as fast as Chuck Connors can tell you that not keeping your finger out of the way of the trigger during rapid firs is PAINFUL!