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jpvjr
January 25, 2008, 03:29 PM
Does anyone use a Lee loader? For the .30-30? Quality?
& finally what's the case life of said brass?

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moooose102
January 25, 2008, 04:06 PM
are you talking about the hand held whack it with a stick one, or the actual lee hand press, or ??? they make many different models, and the quality varries.

Eagle103
January 25, 2008, 05:16 PM
I have a Lee Classic Loader for 30-30. It loads fine ammo. I haven't had any problems only neck sizing for the lever. They're fun to use just for something different. Case life is not a problem at all, even with Federal brass. I'd suggest a scale though as the actual dipper weights are often quite conservative plus you and your gun will be safer.

jonnyc
January 25, 2008, 08:26 PM
I use them in .45ACP, .303, and .308. Very happy.

JNewell
January 25, 2008, 09:16 PM
Does anyone use a Lee loader?

Learned to reload on one.

For the .30-30?

That was the caliber. Bought it *used* (can you believe that? I was 12 and money was harder to come by in 1971).

Quality?

Of the tool? More than good enough for its intended purpose. Of the ammo? Got unbelievable accuracy out of those loads.

& finally what's the case life of said brass?

In a .30-30, probably darn near eternal. You're only neck sizing. By the way, I never had any feeding problems, but back then I only had one rifle in that caliber. You might encounter feeding issues if you were using brass from rifle 1 with the Lee Loader and then trying to fire it in rifle 2.

CBS220
January 25, 2008, 09:18 PM
If you have the time to use one, they work very well. They're slow, but they're more or less just neck sizing dies. Your brass will last a long time that way, and it should be the most accurate possible, as the brass is already formed to the chamber of your gun.

Im283
January 25, 2008, 09:30 PM
I have two if them. .357mag and .45acp. They are slow I guess but they are easy to use and work very well. I would say on average if I apply myself I can make 50 rounds in about 75 minutes.

mallc
January 26, 2008, 11:38 AM
I have used the same 6 30-30 for hunting for years. Can't tell you have many meals those 6 cartriges have brought home.

I also reload with a Dillon 650 and Redding T7 but the Lee is about as hands-on as it gets.


Scott

Peter M. Eick
January 27, 2008, 10:55 AM
I learned on a 30/30 lee loader and a 38 special lee loader. I still occasionally use the 38 special one, but the 30/30 went with the 94 back when I had to sell it to get through college.

It is a simple to use, gives good accuracy and works well but it is slow. I have no qualms about recommending one BUT get yourself a lee hand primer press. Pounding on primers occasionally one can set one off if you are young and strong.

jpvjr
January 27, 2008, 03:20 PM
Money was tight then & now that's why I want to get into reloading. I'm a meat hunter & only own that 1 gun (a Marlin). I was thinking of Hornady 170 FN's @ <= 2000fps.

scrat
January 27, 2008, 03:30 PM
Lee Loader big fan
i have it in
30-30
then i have the 30-30 deluxe target lee loader
9mm
410 shotgun
410 deluxe shotgun
12 guage deluxe
30-06

yep they all work very good. highly recomended. they are a little slower. But then life is about quality. When you dont have the time to use a lee loader. then you need to stop for a minute and try to figure out what your doing wrong in life. Enjoy the days you have.

Eagle103
January 27, 2008, 04:43 PM
What's the "deluxe" Lee Loader?
I'd sure like to get my paws on a .410 version too.

scrat
January 27, 2008, 04:51 PM
The deluxe lee loader and target version very rare hard to find.

a bigger container for sure. but comes with everything

here is a list.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/scrat36/ec49_12.jpg

standard die, decapper rod and loading rod

plus neck reamer, primer pocket clean, case trimmer, chamfer, primer installer hand held not the beating type

then the dye has a guage to seat the bullet.

for the shotgun it comes with the star crimp starter in both 8 and 12 segments. along with different types of dippers for various loads of powder and shot. also comes with a wad starter. and shell resizer.

you can still get the 410 on ebay but your going to spend some money.

Eagle103
January 27, 2008, 04:58 PM
Wow. Neck reamer? Hand primer? Now that's cool. I wonder if that's what the guy was using to set the world record (that Lee brags about).

scrat
January 27, 2008, 05:05 PM
YEP and its all mine. mine mine mine.

got it brand new never used.

of course it gets its share of use now. :neener::neener::neener:

Tell you what. i will put ammo from this lee loader over store bought ammo any day. A lee loader was not meant for speed loading. When you take your time using this kit you will get the most accurate ammo made.

scrat
January 27, 2008, 05:13 PM
here is the deluxe shotgun

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/scrat36/12f9_1.jpg

standard version

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/scrat36/1d54_1.jpg

Eagle103
January 27, 2008, 06:00 PM
Impressive. Now what are the chances Lee will start making them again? Slim to none I suppose. Oh well. You can just drop those two deluxe sets in the mail for me and I'll send you a check.

scrat
January 27, 2008, 06:18 PM
oh and the standard version picture is of my 410 shotgun set.

NEVER USED.


BRAND NEW

The deluxe 410 though gets plenty of use.

JNewell
January 27, 2008, 08:38 PM
Money was tight then & now that's why I want to get into reloading. I'm a meat hunter & only own that 1 gun (a Marlin). I was thinking of Hornady 170 FN's @ <= 2000fps.

That's why I started with mine. The only thing is, it's slower - but that's probably not an issue for your use.

Impressive. Now what are the chances Lee will start making them again? Slim to none I suppose. Oh well. You can just drop those two deluxe sets in the mail for me and I'll send you a check.

Less than that. For most people, the hand press is a better long-term value. For the rest, the regular Lee Loader does everything they need.

scout26
January 28, 2008, 12:02 PM
I've had one in .32 Win Spec for quite a while now. Works great.

I recently got one in .45ACP and I can't get the brass all the way into the die unless I use a sledgehammer. And I mean there's 3/8" still sticking out and it won't go in any farther. I've tried several different brands of brass RP, CCI, Speer, WCC, WW, IMI, etc. and have measured them (all are between .881 and .895).

With the .32 WS brass I can use a small 12 oz plastic mallet, this one in fact: http://greatnecksaw.com/product_info.php?pName=12oz-plastic-malletwood-handle and easily seat the brass all the way into the die, with very little effort.

Am I doing something wrong ?? Why won't the .45ACP brass go all the way into the die ??

Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope.......

Doug b
January 28, 2008, 12:31 PM
Just checked, got one for 300 Win. mag.never used.If you want it pay postage.
Scout26 does your 45ACP resized brass chamber?It maybe good to go if it does.

jpvjr
January 29, 2008, 01:18 PM
Another quick question; being tube fed do I need to crimp?

scrat
January 29, 2008, 01:23 PM
yep you sure do.

You can crimp with a lee loader. you simply put on the decapping chamber over the back of the round now put the round in the dye on the top side. give it a slight wack and it will now be crimped. You have to crimp for a 30-30 as its a tube fed magazine.

fireflyfather
January 29, 2008, 02:49 PM
Brass life will be BETTER with a lee loader than with using a set of standard dies, as it neck sizes only. Works the brass less. Especially if you're using a rimmed cartridge.

My only complaints about the lee loaders I have is the .38 special version requires you to either lube the cases or pound like a maniac to set (or set off!) the primers. The rifle version I have is nice and smooth. I did learn a trick to seating the primers with the pistol version, however. If you tap the case about 1/8" out of the die before placing it over the primer, you don't have to deal with the resistance of the case against the die when seating the primer, and it goes in very easily. The drawback is that you have to be very careful that the primer is aligned properly with the primer pocket, since the guide formed by the die and primer seater is no longer flush. With my new method, I've never set off a primer, and it reduces fatigue and noise, not to mention eliminates exploding primers during the seating operation. Of course, not an issue with rifle loaders, but It makes all the difference with the pistol versions of the lee loader.

scout26
January 29, 2008, 06:12 PM
I figured out my problem with my .45ACP Lee Loader.

The guy I bought from at the gun said it was new in the box and never been used. I took that to mean that of course it had been used to make every .45 round for both WWII and the Korean war. :scrutiny:

Well, lo and behold, I read the instructions. A little wax and the now the cases almost slide in.

And the gunshow guy was telling the truth. It had NEVER been used before.

:o

280shooter
February 6, 2008, 11:10 PM
I used the ole lee load all..100 years ago it seems,I did my reloading at my kitchen table,I had a 444,and i loaded compressed loads,that was alot of fun.I did have a few primers go off when i was putting them in,scared the you know what out of me,I think one of the first thing i did buy was a scale.next was a Lyman powder messure, Also on the 30-30 I killed alot of deer with 150 grn now i killed them with the 170 but i didnt have them run off,like some did when hit wth the 170s

280shooter
February 6, 2008, 11:13 PM
I used the ole lee load all..100 years ago it seems,I did my reloading at my kitchen table,I had a 444,and i loaded compressed loads,that was alot of fun.I did have a few primers go off when i was putting them in,scared the you know what out of me,I think one of the first thing i did buy was a scale.next was a Lyman powder messure, Also on the 30-30 I killed alot of deer with 150 grn now i killed them with the 170 but i didnt have them run off,like some did when hit wth the 170s

Eb1
February 7, 2008, 10:39 AM
I had an issue with the "crimp"
so i bought a hand press from lee with a Lee Factory Crimp Die. This solved the issues I was having of the crimp being different or none existant.

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