Rambo - gun movie - SPOILERS.


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jeff-10
January 25, 2008, 10:54 PM
Yes I know Rambo is cheesy but I still love the franchise. Anyways I saw it today and of course there are lots of guns.

Rambo uses a pistol for the first time but I could not make out what kind. Of course he is faster than Doc Holiday at his peak and Rambo is now 61!

He has the belt fed, some kind of 12.7mm or 14.5mm Chicom or Russian machine gun.

Best of all is the mercenary team. The team leader has some kind of shotgun with a M4 stock. One guy had a Barrett .50 and another had a Sig SG 552 I think.

Lots and lots of AKs and the ever present and very effective bow. Though it's more conventional now.

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Owen
January 25, 2008, 11:09 PM
lol, the supressed barret, not waking up everyone was kinda funny, as was the gore on the M2 gun shield.

stevereno1
January 25, 2008, 11:48 PM
Is Rambo fighting against radical islam, or is he still fighting in "nam?

serrano
January 25, 2008, 11:49 PM
Is Rambo fighting against radical islam, or is he still fighting in "nam?

Civil war in Burma I believe.

If you figure any of the guns out add them to the imfdb (http://www.imfdb.org)! ;)

stevereno1
January 25, 2008, 11:52 PM
oh, i'll pass then.

hankdatank1362
January 26, 2008, 12:14 AM
What is that country currently called; Burma or Myanmar? I can't remember which is the old name and which is the new one.

VirgilCaine
January 26, 2008, 12:18 AM
Don't you remember Seinfeld? :D The old name is Burma, the new one is Myanmar.

Owen
January 26, 2008, 01:22 AM
i wouldn't be totally surprised if the US military ended up in Burma. strategic postition, on the Muslim/non-muslim border, genocide.

gunman42782
January 26, 2008, 02:25 AM
Don't guess I will see it, as Stalone is anti-gun!

Cesiumsponge
January 26, 2008, 02:31 AM
The shotgun was either the Remington 870 or the Mossberg 500/590. It had a Magpul M93 rear stock attached to the Mesa Tactical M4 adapter block. Mesa Tactical top receiver rail with an EOTech 551 holographic weapon sight. I don't recall seeing it fired.

Barrett M82 50BMG with a Schmidt & Bender Police Marksman II series riflescope. Amazingly enough, when the camera uses the scope viewpoint, it accurately showed the P-3 reticle option on the S&B scope which does have the illuminated center crosshair and non-illuminated mildot arms. Usually the scope viewpoint in movies is a made up reticle. The only error was the green tint. I did not see a piggyback image intensifier but most of the firearm shots were fairly brief so it was difficult to identify details.

I stayed for the credits and there was about a half dozen armorers for the movie itself...only one western name I recognized. Most of the credits belonged to Thai people. Gil Hibbens gets credits for cutlery but I don't recall seeing any knives other than the homemade machete. I think he used his signature knife in the "gutting scene" but I don't recall seeing it at all.

RustyShackelford
January 26, 2008, 03:59 AM
I saw the TV ad where John J pulls what looks like a 1911a1 .45acp and get's busy. ;)

I doubt it was a Colt. Way back in the 1980s big Sly sued Colt Industries for using his name on an engraved 1911a1 .45acp Officer's model. He had a valid point because Colt ran the magazine ad w/o his documented permission.

I plan to see the new Rambo so no more spoilers PLEASE!!!! :D

Rusty S

JWarren
January 26, 2008, 06:22 AM
Don't guess I will see it, as Stalone is anti-gun!


Ditto-ish.


Stalone disgusts me in a lot of ways. He made his fortune playing with guns on movies, and then has come out against guns.

The hypocrisy enters when you discover that HE had a CCW but did not support others to have one. Elitism at its best.

Now I will probably see Rambo at some point. I have Blockbuster unlimited where I pay a flat monthly rate. I'll probably grab it at some point when nothing good comes out that week. But I won't play into the Box Office numbers.


-- John

Zach S
January 26, 2008, 08:56 AM
There any car chases in the movie? Gunfights, explosions, gore, sly's politics aside, it seems like a decent guy flick, just needs some kinda car chase.

I'll wait for the DVD and rent it though.

salty
January 26, 2008, 10:10 AM
If there is any question of Stallonies antigun position he made the NRA list of shame - http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15 and has been outed here - http://thecitizensjournalblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/sylvester-stallone-anti-gun-activist.html. What irks me is as stated above he has made a fortune with movies of rather extreme violence by the characters - with or without firearms - but publically trashes most of his audiences 2 nd. amendment rights while geting himself a CCW. I guess I am narrow minded but I am avoiding this movie and will not buy the DVD as a part of my message to him and other hollowood elites.

Justin
January 26, 2008, 10:25 AM
Let's see...I could go see a movie today, but I think I'd rather go shoot a match.

Real Guns > Movie Guns

brentn
January 26, 2008, 05:48 PM
Jwarren that amazes me that he's anti gun. I saw the movie last night, one of the baddest assed movies I have ever seen, just loved it, but the message that was made throughout was defenitly pro-gun. It basically said that violence is defenitly necessary, and the anti gun group that went into burma to help out with peace finally realized that you have to fight for change.

Stallones character in the movie is so pro gun, and considering stallone was the director, its mind boggeling that he would send a message like that.

Hokkmike
January 26, 2008, 05:53 PM
The thing that really bugs me is that Stallone is VERY anti gun. (yet we like those kinds of movies) Check him out.

Zedicus
January 26, 2008, 05:55 PM
Jwarren that amazes me that he's anti gun. I saw the movie last night, one of the baddest assed movies I have ever seen, just loved it, but the message that was made throughout was defenitly pro-gun. It basically said that violence is defenitly necessary, and the anti gun group that went into burma to help out with peace finally realized that you have to fight for change.

Stallones character in the movie is so pro gun, and considering stallone was the director, its mind boggeling that he would send a message like that.

Wolf in sheep's Clothing Perhaps?

Cesiumsponge
January 26, 2008, 07:00 PM
If you're going to avoid a movie because of a lead actor's political views, then you shouldn't watch ANY movies at all. Considering there are dozens of key people that are filmed in movies and hundreds or thousands in the total production process, I am willing to bet its virtually impossible to find a movie done entirely by pro-gun (or even gun neutral) folks unless you're watching some NRA or gunsmithing video. It's all a matter of how much digging into the film's crew you do before throwing in the towel.

"Find a pro-gun college campus"
"find a pro-gun place of work"
"find a movie with pro-gun actors"

I'm sure everyone here has given dollars unwittingly to some anti-gun person. Despite certain ignorant viewpoints on reality by people that believe in evil firearms, you still have to deal with a human population with opposing viewpoints. :neener:

JWarren
January 26, 2008, 07:34 PM
Just accept that it's my personal choice. I vote with my dollars.

I franky don't care that he isn't PRO-GUN. I care about the fact that he is ANTI-GUN.

Dinner is almost ready, so I don't have time to look it up, but you should see his comments.

And then I found out that HE had had a CCW WHILE saying Anti-gun statements.

Your choice is yours. Mine is mine. I am OK with mine.


EDIT:

Here is an interesting thread on him from a while back:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=298508&highlight=Stallone

http://blog.riflegear.com/articles/the-hypocrisy-of-sylvester-stallone.aspx

I encourage you to read through the above link. If you can get through it, it tells an interesting talke of the Freedom of Information Act.


But yes... its HARD to find anyone in Hollywood who HASN'T made anti-gun statments. See here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=1489&highlight=Stallone

http://www.sas-aim.org/anti/celb.htm


-- John

brentn
January 26, 2008, 08:17 PM
damn, lol, he DID apply for a CCW in 2004! For an anti gunner that is pure gold, however I didn't see any statements of anti-gun past 1998... Anti gun people can change to pro gun over time, rarely is it the other way around, however maybe stallone has changed his logic?
I did, I was anti gun about 2 years ago and look at me now, I can't get enough of them. The facts eventually stare you in the face and you just can't lie to yourself anymore that not having firearms is a good idea.

Sage of Seattle
January 26, 2008, 08:30 PM
Haven't seen the movie yet, but isn't the creator of everyone's favorite gun-o-gasm Firefly, Joss Wheadon... isn't he pretty vocal about his own anti-gun stance?

If y'all can make an exception in Joss' case, how about ole' Sly?

Hey, John! Long time, no thread-chat! How's it going? Not for the first time, I agree with JWarren there about his voting with his dollars and I must admit I'll do the same in this case.

I get enough violence, gore, and bloodshed every time I talk with my ex, anyway....

jeff-10
January 27, 2008, 12:14 AM
but I don't recall seeing any knives other than the homemade machete.

Lots and lots of knife work other than Rambo's machete. Most of it by the mercenaries.

Navy joe
January 27, 2008, 12:25 AM
Anti gun, bad dialogue, HGH popping, yes that is all Stallone. I give him credit for making this movie to make himself some cash while trying to call attention to a real problem most of the world wants to ignore. Better than most of the Hollywood insta-causes and it sure beat making nice with Hugo Chavez as is popular out in movieland.

Saw the movie. For me the most suspension of disbelief was required with the supressed .50 that no one seemed to hear. If that's the worst that should tell you this isn't a typical Rambo. Loved it.

On weapons I appreciate that the movie was mostly free of John Woo gun-handling, CGI, and hollyweird explosions. I thought the weapons effects were plausible, as in the M2 shooting down the long axis of the truck and going through everyone, other shots of .50 passing through and doing damage. Where did the impoverished rebels get an AT-4 though?

Sergeant Sabre
January 27, 2008, 12:40 AM
He has the belt fed, some kind of 12.7mm or 14.5mm Chicom or Russian machine gun.

A Russian DSHK 12.7x107mm, perhaps? I only mention it because usually when I see a non-M2 crew-served .50 in a movie, it's a DSHK.

Picture of the DSHK. I handled a DSHK, in Iraq. It's a sweet piece of gear. They are usually found without the shoulder pads, though:
http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/dshk_hmg%20(2).jpg

Picture of the 12.7x108mm. It's longer than the .50BMG by 9mm and is much thicker, providing significantly increased case capacity (350 of water compared to the .50BMG at 290 grains). However, the literature I've read states that the Soviet loadings were only approximately equivalent to the .50BMG, despite the extra case capacity:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/DM-SD-05-00258.JPEG/800px-DM-SD-05-00258.JPEG

jerkface11
January 27, 2008, 12:44 AM
It's a war movie that ISN'T anti-war and is trying to call attention to a long lasting brutal conflict that the UN and news media have ignored for DECADES. I find it hard to fault Stalone for this one.

JWarren
January 27, 2008, 09:08 AM
Hey, John! Long time, no thread-chat! How's it going?


Hiya Sage! Man, its good to see you.


I get enough violence, gore, and bloodshed every time I talk with my ex, anyway....

You almost owed me a computer monitor for that one. I turned my head just in time and sprayed coffee on the Tactical Terrier (TM) AKA my oldest Jack Russell Terrier, Hattie. :eek:


On topic. I dunno what Stallone's position is currently. Maybe its just that I am older now, but 1998 isn't that long ago for me. It isn't for him either. I don't assume someone changes just because they haven't said something recently. His CCW application doesn't indicate Pro-gun-- it indications Pro-Stallone having a gun. Remember, Rosie wants her bodyguards (as seen on TLC's Dirty Jobs :neener: ) armed, too.



It's a war movie that ISN'T anti-war and is trying to call attention to a long lasting brutal conflict that the UN and news media have ignored for DECADES. I find it hard to fault Stalone for this one.

War and gun rights are different topics. I'm not altogether happy about war-- unless it is necessary.

Regrettably, there is ALWAYS bloody conflicts in our world. Regrettably, the UN and media don't focus on them. They run on what has "legs" and we have short attention spans.

No, I don't fault anyone from bringing attention to bloody conflicts. But not faulting for one thing does not negate other actions. If I was a part-time serial killer who volunteers for Boys Clubs of America, that STILL makes me a serial killer.

Obviously, that was for illustrative purposes. I am not suggesting Stallone has killed anything other than the English language.


But as I said, my decision is to not figure into the Box Office numbers. I'll eventually see it on my unlimited DVD rental thingy. I don't fault anyone who DOES choose to catch this at the theater.


-- John

Sage of Seattle
January 27, 2008, 01:40 PM
I am not suggesting Stallone has killed anything other than the English language.

Hahaha!


"AAAAADDDRRRRIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!"

Okay, all this Stallone talk has made me want to go dig out my DVD of First Blood...

mattmacklind
January 27, 2008, 08:15 PM
It's a war movie that ISN'T anti-war and is trying to call attention to a long lasting brutal conflict that the UN and news media have ignored for DECADES. I find it hard to fault Stalone for this one.


I understand that Stallone wanted to make this movie about this particular conflict (and I haven't seen it yet) because it is so ignored. There are, rumored anyway, lobbyists paid to lobby Washington to keep this off the US public radar. I don't know how true that is but it wouldn't surprise me if it were.

As far as someone being anti-gun that has a CC permit, I have friends that are anti-gun and have guns and CC permit, and I don't see it as contradictory. I see it as having ideals but living in reality. I find it a little weird, but don't find it elitist or hipocritical.

JWarren
January 27, 2008, 08:22 PM
I have friends that are anti-gun and have guns and CC permit, and I don't see it as contradictory. I see it as having ideals but living in reality. I find it a little weird, but don't find it elitist or hipocritical.


We'll have to disagree.

-- John

Geronimo45
January 27, 2008, 11:05 PM
Some newer movies seem to realize that guns are, indeed, loud as all getout. Rambo's one of 'em. Maybe I don't notice this too much, since I typically watch movies on the TV set. Very impressive. Rambo has realized that belt-fed MGs work best on a static mount...

Not a bad movie, at all. May see it again.

Spoiler: Rambo survives, as he always does. Has a home-made machete. Kills BGs in droves.

akodo
January 27, 2008, 11:24 PM
my friends and I were sitting around with a few beers talking about this movie when it first started getting press, but before the preview reels in the theater or TC spots. We were all wondering what the storyline would be, who the next villain nation would be, as Rambo generally lined up against whatever America was lined up against. We remarked how he had fought helping the afghanis vs the russains, and how in the end it was the afghani taliban that caused 9/11.

My friend remarked how Rambo 3 ended, with Rambo giving his famous knife to some kid.

I said "Oh, I know how they can tie this movie in with the rest, how they can have a plausable story that will get a 60 year old Rambo off his lay-z-boy and into the jungle again: Have Rambo sitting at home drinking a beer surfing the internet, and he comes to the video footage of that news reporter Daniel Pearl getting his head cut off by terrorists...and then Rambo yells NO! That is my knife they used. The hooded figure must be that kid I gave it to! What have I done! How could things have gone so wrong! I must go there and set thsi right!

Glock22
January 27, 2008, 11:29 PM
Don't you remember Seinfeld? The old name is Burma, the new one is Myanmar.

lol

357fan
January 27, 2008, 11:32 PM
Quick sidenote...Stallone also wrote, or at least co-wrote, the movie.

Lightsped
January 27, 2008, 11:33 PM
My only question regarding Rambo is are Claymore mines really as strong as the movie suggests? I am referring to the part when Rambo takes out the soliders tracking him with dogs....

amprecon
January 27, 2008, 11:49 PM
The claymore was attached to the "Tall Boy" that was dropped there by the English in WWII which was supposedly detonated by the claymore detonation.

jdkelly
January 28, 2008, 08:24 AM
The claymore was attached to the "Tall Boy" that was dropped there by the English in WWII which was supposedly detonated by the claymore detonation.---amprecon
You know, I didn't get that when I watched the movie, thanks.


Respectfully,

jkelly

Silent Bob
January 28, 2008, 10:27 AM
Rambo 4 has been in development hell for over a decade. Around the time of the Murrah bombing in OKC one script had Rambo going after a militia in the U.S.A.

After 9-11, a new script involving Rambo going after a terrorist group led by that Afghan kid that followed him around in part 3 (having grown up into an AQ terrorist) made the rounds.

My brother loved the movie and said the main villian was so cartoonishly evil that it was absurd even in a movie where one man kills hundreds of armed opponenets single-handedly, but I'll probably wait until it hits the dollar theater.

50 Shooter
January 28, 2008, 10:56 AM
Here's a pic for all you Rambo lovers.


http://www.bradycenter.org/donate/events/2006/losangeles/images/stallone-mac.jpg

Kind of Blued
January 28, 2008, 12:08 PM
I think you guys might get a kick out of this. Pretty interesting points for analysis. Quite humorous as well.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/rambo-death-chart.jpg

Lucky
January 28, 2008, 03:04 PM
This thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=322624&highlight=burma touched on the Burma situation. EVERYONE should be somewhat informed.

Silent Bob if you believe the 'bad guys' in the latest Rambo movie are cartoonish then you are living with blinders on.

THIS is the greatest problem with our society. People are so easily, and happily deceived, by others and themselves, into thinking that the world is rosy, except in few exceptional places inhabited by people fundamentally different from us. That those people are aliens, and never in any circumstances could our people bear resemblances to them. Despite all evidence to the contrary.

The worst thing is that once enough people believe it their actions seem exactly to bring about situations to forcefully and horribly prove to them how wrong they are.

At ALL TIMES we are half a hair's breadth away from being EXACTLY IN THEIR SITUATION. People are people, all the time, everywhere, and what they are capable of is terrifying. And we're surrounded by them, right now. Perhaps it's a psychological coping mechanism, denial or such, that most turn on that allows them to get by each day. People, ordinary people, do horrible things, sometimes on vast scales, all the time. And you're surrounded by ordinary people, all capable of doing horrible things. I guess to get through the day we all just block it out, and pretend bad things never happen. And when we see depictions of them in art works meant to stimulate our minds, some of us just turn the denial up to a higher setting.


There is NOTHING that bad guys did that was unrealistic, or uncommon.

And even the actions of the helpless 'good guys' are both realistic and common, people watch movies and complain that no-one ever resisted or fought back, despite certain death. In reality this is exactly what happens. Look at the resistance to one skinny insane kid on a college campus filled with people in their physical prime - none.

People aren't born pathetically weak, they are made that way.

Silent Bob
January 28, 2008, 05:20 PM
Lucky, number one, I haven't even seen the movie, just reporting what my brother told me about it.

Number two, freakin' DUH that there are evil people out there in the world.

Number three, I am talking about a movie villian. Key word, movie villain.

I will remove my blinders when you get off your high horse. Seriously, how sanctimonious are you?

Your new name will be Captain Obvious. Hope you enjoy it, you have earned it.

Owen
January 28, 2008, 05:32 PM
C;mon guys, High Road.

feedthehogs
January 28, 2008, 05:48 PM
I would like to think my IQ level rates more than a Stallone movie, besides that pic with the Brady Bunch sign in the back ground kinda makes me ill.

while trying to call attention to a real problem most of the world wants to ignore

We all know the worlds a toilet. That doesn't mean that we either have to be involved or even give a rats rump about it. We ain't the world police.

Those who are worried can move to another country, join the UN forces and make believe they are doing something about it.

Thernlund
January 28, 2008, 06:19 PM
I loved that movie. I'm an intelligent guy. I don't see how one has anything to do with the other.

The movie's got cheese. Oh yeah. I would have been disappointed had it not. That's why I loved it. I was laughing and cheering the whole time. I actually had tears at one point.

People were actually leaving the theatre during some of the battle scenes they were so brutal. MAN!!

The end... All the past Rambo death-cheese all packed into one scene and juiced to the gills on crack! When he unloads that belt-fed Jeep-mounted MG at the guys sitting in the front seat of said jeep only a foot away, DAMN!!! That's the stuff! I about wet myself. He then proceeds to rain total unbridled badassness down upon those who had incorrectly thought they knew what brutal was (referring, of course, to the movie goers).

Like strapping an H-Bomb to Bambi. Oh yeah baby!

I don't even know if there was a plot. I didn't care to check. You just gotta turn off your brain sometimes and be entertained. I was entertained. I went in with the right frame of mind, and came out smiling. :D


-T.

Lucky
January 28, 2008, 06:32 PM
Bob, to be simple, the movie depicts REAL THINGS that happen. Except for Rambo saving the day. The bad guys are not cartoonishly evil, THEY ARE REAL.

If it was your friend and not you, then fine. It's your friend who is so deluded he cannot differentiate fiction from reality anymore. He believes reality to be cartoonish. Pity him, and worry about the effects his type have in large numbers.


Just take a minute and think about it. It's a REAL place, a REAL situation, REAL events happening to REAL people. And not only are people completely, absolutely ignorant of all of it, they don't even believe it to be POSSIBLE. They think it's a cartoon.

You don't think that's a little bit troubling???

P.S.
You DO realize that it's a real situation, right?

P.P.S.
Don't send me anymore PM love notes, and no I don't want to see whatever pictures of yourself you've taken.



We all know the worlds a toilet.
I don't think it can any longer be assumed that even a majority of people do know that. Plus your foreign policy suggestion of non-intervention only works when that's your foreign policy, which it clearly is not.

Thernlund
January 28, 2008, 06:37 PM
Ummm... I think some of you need to take the same approach to this thread that I took to the movie (mentioned above).


-T.

JWarren
January 28, 2008, 07:40 PM
P.P.S.
Don't send me anymore PM love notes, and no I don't want to see whatever pictures of yourself you've taken


Guys, maybe you SHOULD take it to PMs. Otherwise, this thread degenerates into a Thread Lock in short order.


-- John

DougDubya
January 28, 2008, 08:51 PM
I believe that the world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.

Thus, "all the world's a toilet" is a resentful comment for me, personally.

jerkface11
January 28, 2008, 11:55 PM
DougDubya of course the worlds a toilet. However no one said we aren't allowed to flush.

Autolycus
January 29, 2008, 12:05 AM
So is Bush going to involve us there so we can spread democracy? I mean afterall we are helping those Iraqi citizens.

jerkface11
January 29, 2008, 12:37 AM
No we'll just bury our heads in the sand and pray that everything will be OK. After all we aren't the worlds policemen and the rest of the worlds problems NEVER effect us in any way.

DougDubya
January 29, 2008, 01:17 AM
DougDubya of course the worlds a toilet. However no one said we aren't allowed to flush.

Well, now that you put it in cleaning terms...

where's that scrub brush to wipe off the stains?

fivepaknh
January 29, 2008, 03:36 AM
I don't even know if there was a plot. I didn't care to check. You just gotta turn off your brain sometimes and be entertained. I was entertained. I went in with the right frame of mind, and came out smiling.


Well said. This movie was highly entertaining and a big step up from Rambo 2 and 3. I may see it again on the big screen.

Stallone, at least when compared to other celebrities, is a conservative.
http://www.celebpolitics.com/search_results_actors.php?type=Conservative

Silent Bob
January 29, 2008, 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky
P.P.S.
Don't send me anymore PM love notes, and no I don't want to see whatever pictures of yourself you've taken.

I don't know where the pictures thing comes from. With that, you prove to me that you are quite insane, and completely lacking in any integrity. You know it, I know it, and that's all that matters.

Why don't you use that "excellent" health system in Canada to get yourself on some major-strength anti-psychotics.

You need them.

marksman13
January 29, 2008, 03:20 PM
Saw the movie last night. The dialogue was horrible. The gun play was AWESOME. They should fire their military advisor though. I can't think of a single sniper who would tote a .50 cal Barret into the jungle. Also, can't imagine a team of Mercs going into a hostile area with 4 different rifles/shotguns with no ammo/mag commonallity. Throw away the fact that the movie totally disregarded logic in selecting weapons for the characters (perhaps their were some add dollars involved in that decision), and the movie really was good. I thought I was going to hate it for the first 15 minutes when there was only snake wrangling and crappy dialogue, but when the shooting started, I quickly found the edge of my seat. I think I was litterally pumping my fist in some parts like I did to some of the original Rambo movies I watched as a kid. Lot's of fun.

Joe Demko
January 29, 2008, 03:40 PM
It ain't a Rambo movie if it doesn't have some big, honking knife to co-star with Stallone. Say what you will about the quality of the various films, the Rambo franchise got a lot of folks interested in knives back in the 80's. Pre-Rambo, knife shows were pretty boring a lot of the time. The custom makers seemed to be in a never-ending contest to see who could come up with one more variation on a Loveless-style drop point. Collectors showed and obsessed over having every last variation of the Case Peanut. After Rambo, things got more exciting. Combat and survival designs started showing up in numbers...some of them bizarre. Pre-Rambo there wasn't much in the way of combat folders, either. Hate Sly as much as you like, but he is part of the reason companies like Benchmade and Spyderco have been so successful.

fivepaknh
January 30, 2008, 12:26 AM
They should fire their military advisor though. I can't think of a single sniper who would tote a .50 cal Barret into the jungle. Also, can't imagine a team of Mercs going into a hostile area with 4 different rifles/shotguns with no ammo/mag commonallity. Throw away the fact that the movie totally disregarded logic in selecting weapons for the characters (perhaps their were some add dollars involved in that decision),

Itís an action flic. Youíre supposed to suspend belief and just enjoy the movie. Besides, have you ever seen pics of some SEAL teams in Vietnam. They carried a mixed bag of weapons. It was their preference.

marksman13
January 30, 2008, 09:54 AM
fivepaknh, read my post carefully. I said I enjoyed the movie. It would have been better in my mind, however, had it been more realistic. Also, the fact that the SEALS do it doesn't make it the best idea. In a firefight folks are going to run short on ammo. Most teams, even SEAL teams, have some mag/ammo commonality. That way when your weapon runs dry, I can just toss you a mag.

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