I can't play with squirt guns or toy guns.


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jakemccoy
January 26, 2008, 02:45 AM
It's difficult for me to point a toy gun at anybody without the Four Safety Rules flashing through my head. It's a habit. I don't feel deprived or anything because I appreciate the safety benefit when I handle a real gun. Does anybody else have the same tendency?

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Waywatcher
January 26, 2008, 02:54 AM
Don't develop a complex.

Toys are toys and guns are guns.

iiibdsiil
January 26, 2008, 03:26 AM
I noticed with all my air tools and power tools I execute perfect trigger control. I'm not this bad YET.

HK G3
January 26, 2008, 03:31 AM
I can still point my Tippman 98 paintball gun (with a whole bunch of mods that make it ergonomically similar to an AR-15) at anyone and hold down the trigger.

Provided, of course, they are wearing the proper safety gear, such as a mask and so forth. :)

My real rifles abide by the 4 rules, but everything else is governed by the rules that govern them, so I'm not quite that bad yet.

DAVIDSDIVAD
January 26, 2008, 03:33 AM
Yeah, I have no problem goofing around with toys.

Guns however, are important

possum
January 26, 2008, 03:38 AM
Toys are toys and guns are guns.
+1
i have no issues shooting water guns, paint ball guns etc. i know thd difference and i know how to use real ones and toy ones.

theken206
January 26, 2008, 03:44 AM
seriously, have you ever played around with modern "squirt guns"?? more like water cannons Bought some of those for my niece once knowing that the adults would be the ones that ended up using them. Those things were awesome.

DontBurnMyFlag
January 26, 2008, 07:26 AM
i spend my off time playing paintball. I have no qualms with shooting at people when I play. I index my finger and never sweep the barrel at other guys while we are waiting around to play. But I dont think that toy guns and guns should be lumped together in the same category however.

illinoisdeerhunter
January 26, 2008, 07:36 AM
Similarly, cars and toy cars can't be lumped together. I let my 6 yr old drive his RC 4X4....UNSUPERVISED!!!!! I've taken my older unlicensed kids to a go-cart track and actually raced.

If one thinks about it, the list goes on and on...real vs toys. Guns are the same way. To treat them different is to give guns special treatment, that is exactly what the gun grabbers want.

Superlite27
January 26, 2008, 08:25 AM
You're not the only one Jake. I guess we're in a minority.

Squirt guns and paintball guns don't bother me. Toy long guns aren't a problem either.

It's cap guns or more specifically plastic toy handguns that get on my nerves. I don't have any toys, so me doing the pointing isn't a problem. What makes me cringe is when I'm visiting friends or family with kids and the toy gets pointed at ME. I know it's a toy. I know it's a kid. The whole idea of having a pistol or revolver look-alike aimed at my head just grates on me. It grates on me enough to say something smart-aleky to their parents like "He sure knows how to aim at people's faces. I wonder if he'll ever learn how to handle a gun safely?"

What an excellent time to teach youngsters about safety, and here they are pointing the damn thing at my head and yelling "BANG! BANG!"

You might call me a jerk. Fine. It makes me uncomfortable so I will continue to make the murderous little assassins stop "killing" people. Hopefully they learn enough by the time they are old enough for a real gun.

Zach S
January 26, 2008, 08:41 AM
I dont play with toy guns.

I do follow the four rules when handling anything gun-like though, which is mainly air and power tools. I'm aware of where the muzzle of my sawzall is pointing, hold it and drill at low-ready, ect...

I cracked the plastic case for a battery pack on a buddy's cordless drill by doing a reload... I bought him another to replace it, and the old one still works, thanks to duct tape.

Doggy Daddy
January 26, 2008, 09:19 AM
I know it's a toy. I know it's a kid. The whole idea of having a pistol or revolver look-alike aimed at my head just grates on me. It grates on me enough to say something smart-aleky to their parents like "He sure knows how to aim at people's faces. I wonder if he'll ever learn how to handle a gun safely?"

Really! Some people's children!

You'd think they'd know enough to go set up some targets up in front of a proper berm and make believe they're putting holes in the paper. :D

Seriously, I understand how you feel. Try looking at it another way: you're well-versed in gun safety and etiquette... they're not - they're children. Be thankful that their parents even allow them to play with toy guns and take it as an opportunity to mold new shooters.

The next time one "shoots" you, yell "OW! You got me!" and fall over. Bet you'll have as much fun as the kids do. Then you can gently introduce advanced gun info to them over time.

Wish I had kids play-shooting me... :cool:

btg3
January 26, 2008, 10:08 AM
Thinking out loud . . . why do TOY guns appeal to us -- kids and adults?
Mostly perhaps it's just to mimic what is glorified on tv/movies and doing so without consequences -- as long as we stick with toys. It's important to make the distinction between toys and guns, but unfortunately experience with guns is put farther and farther out of the reach of youngsters, so their only experience is with toys and the distinction becomes almost lost -- especially to those who have tv sets for parents.

Grizzly Adams
January 26, 2008, 11:56 AM
I have no problem.

But I make sure to explain to my grandkids and other youngsters that are playing with toys that there is a difference in their toys and my and daddy's REAL guns and that they should never point a real gun at anything they don't intend to shot!

KC&97TA
January 26, 2008, 12:03 PM
I was never allowed to have any toy guns as a kid, as an adult I hate to see the neibor kids running around shooting each other with yellow balls, everytime kid runs out in the street with a "toy pistol" ... I have a reaction, and the instinct to drive my truck over them while reaching for my pistol

BB gun at 4,
22lr at 5
shooting highpower rifles at 10,
shotguns at 12
my very own hand gun at 14

never had a toy gun to play with, but I did have real ones

I can't get over the Airsoft Realness or the guys that seem to take it "over board" in my opinion. I have no problems with Paint Ball though.

jerkface11
January 26, 2008, 12:33 PM
My paintball gun looks and feels like an M4. Yet I had no problem whatsoever shooting my coworkers at our last outing.

230RN
January 26, 2008, 02:41 PM
jerkface11 straight-faced:

My paintball gun looks and feels like an M4. Yet I had no problem whatsoever shooting my coworkers at our last outing.

Now, that's funny!

Is your real name Buster Keaton?

chris in va
January 26, 2008, 05:02 PM
I know what you mean, but frankly I thoroughly enjoy using my 'semi' autococker on some snotty teenager with his $1000 DM6.

DougDubya
January 26, 2008, 05:09 PM
I used to (and by used to, I mean let's say about two or three months ago) make my own "toy guns" out of cardboard and colored electrical tape (though I started with basic black, or duct tape for stainless steel).

It helped fill out my dream arsenal at a fraction of the cost.

AK-74me
January 26, 2008, 05:09 PM
At my job we use real M4's converted for MILES use all the time for drills, guess you wouldn't be able to work here then.

Crunker1337
January 26, 2008, 05:15 PM
I use the four rules when playing with my airsoft pistol. It sure ain't a gun, but it is capable of injuring small animals, hence, I don't really treat it like one would treat a toy.

Geronimo45
January 26, 2008, 05:42 PM
Nope. Not at all. I know a real gun from a fake gun. I know that a .45 ACP slug can kill for several hundred yards. I know that airsoft rounds - assuming eye protection is used - have low chances of doing injury at any distance.

And keep in mind that the four rules exist soley for the sake of preventing accidents... because accidents can cause injury or death. This is not an issue with water guns or airsoft.

Gunnerpalace
January 26, 2008, 07:08 PM
No problems here, I still use weapon control and indexing the trigger guard,

There is a BIG difference between real and fake lethality-wise, I understand that when I put away the airsoft and pick up the real thing.

MarshallDodge
January 26, 2008, 07:08 PM
I have no issues playing with toy guns except that I tend to treat them as real and follow the rules of gun safety. My boys have airsoft and paintball guns and they are allowed to shoot at each other when they are on a playing field with the proper gear. They are also required to handle these guns like it is real.

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