Presidential Forum with gun section and 2A poll


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CentralTexas
January 28, 2008, 05:01 PM
Wow, I looked through the GOP candidates forums and on candidates forums has a gun/2A forum. That beats some of the others "I support gun bans and private sales" attitudes....

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/

My question is how many of you vote on one issue? I vote on the candidate who shares the majority of my views but 2A is a huge one, double value I guess....

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ilbob
January 28, 2008, 05:15 PM
This has been discussed ad infinitum.

Some are of the opinion that only a perfect candidate is worthy of their vote.

Others are willing to settle for someone imperfect, but electable and closer to their own views as opposed to say, an out and out socialist gun banner.

Dope
January 28, 2008, 05:16 PM
Hmmm unfortunately I can't really vote in this poll since I don't fall into any of those categories. Honestly I will likely vote for the person who is most likely to win against the worst of the anti-gunners like Hillary or Obama.

Dope

CentralTexas
January 28, 2008, 05:47 PM
Wouldn't you be in the "other single issue most important to you" then?

I guess I should have added one "I'll vote for the lesser of two evils" or somesuch......

RoadkingLarry
January 28, 2008, 05:58 PM
I can vote for the party that loudly and activley states they wantto disarm me or I can vote for the party that at least pays lip service to the 2nd amendment and may actually oppose some draconian gun laws. Go figure.

TT
January 28, 2008, 07:54 PM
I thought I was a single-issue voter (RKBA) until RP came along. His 2nd Amendment stance is perfect, but I can’t vote for a guy who excuses terrorism. Never thought I would see a pro-gunner who was also a Blame-America-Firster. :(

CentralTexas
January 28, 2008, 08:04 PM
I can argue all day about whether RP is a blame America or whatever title you wish to give him, how 'bout we don't and say we did?

jlbraun
January 28, 2008, 08:09 PM
I thought I was a single-issue voter (RKBA) until RP came along. His 2nd Amendment stance is perfect, but I can’t vote for a guy who excuses terrorism. Never thought I would see a pro-gunner who was also a Blame-America-Firster.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to domestic nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Yup, George Washington, that damn blame-America-Firster. :rolleyes:

TT
January 28, 2008, 08:18 PM
“I can argue all day about whether RP is a blame America or whatever title you wish to give him, how 'bout we don't and say we did?”

I agree- I was just trying to comment on the original post. Hence the beginning of my post- “I thought I was a single issue voter…”

HK G3
January 28, 2008, 08:38 PM
I'll vote for the candidate that I believe is best able to lead the country.

I always weight RKBA heavily in that decision, but ultimately, it comes down to who is going to move the country in the right direction and keep it from imploding or stretching itself too thin.

Juna
January 28, 2008, 08:53 PM
I vote for someone who most fits my views on the major issues, the most important of which is the Constitution. After all, it's what makes our country free.

It's typically choosing between the lesser of two evils, but in this election, I feel Ron Paul fits the bill over 90%, which is more than any other presidential candidate has since I've been alive. So right now, I don't view it as a choice between the lesser of two evils b/c there's actually a candidate I really strongly support. That's really exciting to me b/c I've never felt there was a good choice before--only the lesser of two evils. I also really liked Fred Thompson as my 2nd choice, but he's out now.

I can't think of any Democrat who's sounded the least bit appealing to me since I've been alive. More taxes, bigger government, more government control and intrusion into our personal lives, more erosion of our civil liberties and the Constitution, more nanny state, more socialized medicine, less free market economy, less trust in the people, less rugged individualism, more dependency on the federal government, fewer states' rights, etc. None of these will ever sound appealing to me.

If we had a more open candidacy race where Libertarians would get more of a voice, I'd love it. I'd vote Libertarian til the cows come home. That's a no-brainer to me.

Buttermilk
January 29, 2008, 05:17 PM
I pick a candidate that can pass through the first door or portal which is RKBA. Next door or portal is amnesty/immigration. And so forth.

At present, I have Electile Dysfunction; the inability to become aroused concerning any candidate, presented by any party, in the current election.

TCB in TN
January 29, 2008, 05:25 PM
I have found that an individual's thoughts on the 2A are most often additionally reflected in their dealings with the general public. Those who are live and let live kinda folks, those who believe in smaller gov, personal responsibility, and the right to self determination are my kind of people. You don't see that outta anti 2A folks very often. So I am NOT a single issue voter, but I do look at any candidates 2A stance (and voting record) for the starting point of my opinion of them.

esq_stu
January 29, 2008, 05:30 PM
I am definitely not a single issue voter.

Among my "litmus" tests is what I believe a candidate will do with respect to RKBA. If I have no doubt that they will support, if not champion laws that make it harder to own and keep and bear arms, I won't vote for them. If they are great on RKBA and bad on other issues important to me, I won't vote for them.

If they agree with me on most of my hot button issues, then RKBA will probably be the deciding factor.

ilbob
January 31, 2008, 10:27 AM
A shooting buddy of mine years ago told me he had only two "litmus" tests of political candidates, he felt that a candidate was probably acceptable if the candidate was going to let him keep his guns and his money.

I have always found the candidates who support the 2A and tax reductions are generally far superior to those who don't, even if they are imperfect in other areas.

ArfinGreebly
January 31, 2008, 11:30 AM
Politics is kind of a preoccupation right now, isn't it?

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