[ravinraven]

Thank you for indulging my dream. The Obstructocrats are looking for a Liberal answer to Rush so they can get their "message out." Since no Liberal is smart enuf to string words together in any meaningful way, I thought that I'd volunteer my services. Of course it may be that no Liberal is smart enuf to get anything out of words strung together. Maybe They can't get "the message" anyway. But here goes.

I'll make a list of "talking points" and your job is to rate each one and add any that you might think I missed.

TALKING POINTS:

#1. Any high school student that graduates or leaves school permanently can sign up for unemployment immediately. The unemployment benefit will be figured using minimum wage. He would have been earning at least that if school had not have been forced upon him.

#2. Unemployment insurance lasts from the day a person leaves school until his death.

#3, Unemployment insurance will be indexed to cost of living.

#4. If Unemployment insurance is interrupted by periods of the recipient having a job, future benefits will be diminished by a percentage based on wages while working. That will keep people from trying to improve their position in the job market thereby causing angst for the masses.

#5. Illegal aliens are eligible for unemployment insurance the instant their feet hit the ground on this side of the fence.

#6. Social workers will man the borders in lieu of INS or Border Patrol officials. They can document the exact times of arrival of future benefit recipients. There are more social workers than border cops and there are no demands on their ability to judge any situation.

OK. That's the end of the first program on unemployment insurance.

Other talking points lists will include a sound bashing of such creeps as Bill Oreilly. Did you hear that jerk tonight bad-mouthing those poor kids who were NOT HAVING SEX on a school bus. He bashed their poor old principal too. Terrible. ORAL SEX IS NOT SEX. Clinton said it. Doesn't he get it??


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Well, there you have it. I'll need help coming up with topics. I'll appreciate any help I get.

Thank you, the raving raven

[BigG]

I think you may have a future as a spokesman for the evil party. :cool:

[cuchulainn]

Since no Liberal is smart enuf to string words together in any meaningful way, I thought that I'd volunteer my services. Of course it may be that no Liberal is smart enuf to get anything out of words strung together.

The worst thing you can do is underestimate the intelligence of your opposition.

[Joe Demko]

If the "liberals" are so stupid, how have they managed to systematically deprive you of so many of your rights and so much of your income, despite you being (presumably) so smart since you are a "conservative?"

[Jack T.]

I'll take a whack at answering that: (disclaimer: this is only my personal opinion. . .)

Liberals have so much power because they are A) pro-active, B) completely unconcerned with little details such as honesty and integrity and C) have allies in the Media. So, they can spew whatever garbage they want, hold press conferences denouncing whatever program they are after, the media endorses their position, and the conservatives do nothing. By doing nothing, I mean they do nothing immediately. As conservatives, we are concerned with the little details such as honesty and integrity, so we don't want to pop off at the mouth without being absoluty sure of what we are saying.

So, libDem says "This is horrible! It kills 10K children every day, poisons our drinking water, is completely racist, and is an unnecessary burden on the working class". Now, that might be 100% false, but the Media runs with it while we, as consReps, analyze the accusation, research why it is false, and by the time we have a response, the original accusation is no longer news.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we should take a page from their playbook, but it is never a fair fight when only one of the teams cares about the rules. . .

[Joe Demko]

The question, as asked, dealt with "smart" not "honest." "Conservatives" like to characterize "liberals" as "feeling instead of thinking." If we measure intelligence by who is accomplishing more of their agenda, it would appear that those "liberals" maybe aren't so stupid as you would like to believe. Judging by the amount of "conservative" whining, those stupid liberals control the media, most of the government, the educational system, and several churches, among other things. Gosh! for stupid, emotion-driven people they seem to be kicking your intelligent, logic-driven conservative bee-hinds.

p.s. I don't buy for one minute that the "liberals" (i.e. Democrats) are the party of lies and the "conservatives" (i.e. Republicans) are the party of honesty. Too much history dictates that both are parties of lies.

[ravinraven]

Hey, hey, hey. The topic I've thought about for years. It's great that there are others out there noticing!

Yes. Liberals have great IQs. Perhaps the highest IQ on the planet is in a Liberal head. But what does that mean?

It seems that as IQ increases, the tendency toward Conservatism increases until the very high IQ levels are reached. Way out under the right hand rim of the bell-shaped curve. I learned about a study that discovered this. I learned about it back in 1964 and have forgotten who it was that made the study or published it.

Half of the people are born on the low side of the IQ curve and a great number more seem to migrate there after processing by government schools. Many of the far high-siders in the IQ world are beyond thinking and reasoning and such hum-drom topics as the establishment and protection of the rights of the masses. They have moved beyond thinking and into the world of schemeing.

The targets of the very high IQ Liberals are the low-siders on the curve. There are a bunch of low-siders and it is the number of votes, not the intellect behind the votes that causes things to happen. Therefore an appeal by the great Liberal "minds" to the far left side of the curve can go something like this: "We are going to do it to those guys for your children!" That's one of the magic lines.

We know and statistics show that the number of gun crimes increase as guns are confiscated. The low-siders never read the reports nor do they think very far beyond what's on the tube tonight. "Guns are bad because Hitlary says so," is the limit of their thought processes. Therefore the rights of the masses to self protection are erased.

Conservatives try to appeal to the strengths of human character. Liberals pander to the weaknesses of human character. They do that because they are very smart and desire power for themselves and their "elite" circle. Wresting power away from the thinking class with such things as class and race "warfare," political correctness and the Antikultural movement on college campusses is the way they are doing it.

I believe it was Tocqueville who looked at the American Constitution and said that it would take men of character and courage to make such a system work. Here we are with Democrats of no character and Republicans of no courage running things. And the VERY intelligent are licking their chops.

Lately, there seems to be a roll-back away from the Democrat line. Bush barely won in 2000. The Reps took over the House and Senate in 2002 but just barely. The Dems are in a panic and have responded by increasing the crap that has sold in the past. More class warfare and envy and obstructionism. Such lights as Pelosi [sp?] as minority leader. They are betting that an increase in the intensity of pandering to human weakness will tip the scales in their favor in 2004. Will it? I believe it will.

Why? The "Liberals" who are the target of the high side Liberals are not smart enuf to see what is going on and do not care a fig about liberty, rights pride or anything else of substance.

There will be no Liberal Rush because no target of the Liberal elitist is smart enuf [OK, enough, damn it!] to follow a conversation about any issue and no elitist is going to waste time on the radio when they already have the situation well in hand. The apparent Republican gain in the last two or three years is nothing but a glitch in their overall program.

Once a nation that is based on individual rights and liberty starts a suicidal slide as we have ages ago, I do not believe there is a legal and peaceful means of recovery. Obviously the Liberal elite don't think so either or the anti-gun, anti-cultural, anti-male movements would not be pushed everyday by the likes of ----[fill in the blank]---------.

So, folks. You're right. The great Liberal "minds" can manipulate the feeble Liberal "minds" into destroying liberty. The masses, if given a chance, will vote themselves into slavery. Liberal schemers know this. The fact that they haven't already won completely says something positive about the intellect of enough of us who do not buy totally into the Liberal scheme of things.



God! I'm noisy! That's why I'm the raving raven.

[Jack T.]

I'm a big OU fan, so let me phrase my answer a different way:

OU goes to Dallas to play Texas during the Texas State Fair. During the game, Texas lines up with 18 players instead of the regulation 11, but the fans ( the public ) doesn't throw a fit, so the officials don't throw the flag. Consequently, OU, who played the whole game with only 11 players on the field, gets beat like a drum. Would you say Texas was smarter than OU?

[2nd Amendment]

But the lies are different. The Dems lie to direct the course of the nation and the future. They lie as a Party, as well as individuals trying to prop up their own careers. The Dems lie because the party has a vision of America. A vision the is hinged upon a redistributive and all intrusive government attempting to make things "fair" for everybody. And, of course, somewhat more fair for the leaders.

The Dems are the Party of adolescents who never grew up and never stopped whining "It isn't FAIR!". Them and the larger group who vote Dem because Dad, Gramps, The Union, etc said to.

Republicans lie to keep their jobs. They lie to make some extra pocket change. Even the increasingly Big Government version of the Republican party today doesn't have a vision for America. There's no goal of creating anything. And those of us who do have a goal, the far Right, get eternally bashed by the Left because the last thing they can afford is a Constitutional form of government. If the far Right were actually in control the Republican Party would be far different.

Regardless, Democrat radio personalities really are too stupid to string together coherent thoughts and more importantly, even if they could, there's simply no audience for them. The Fellow Travelers already know the score and the rest of those who vote Dem don't pay any actual attention to politics anyway.

[Gophfer]

Other talking points lists will include a sound bashing of such creeps as Bill Oreilly. Did you hear that jerk tonight bad-mouthing those poor kids who were NOT HAVING SEX on a school bus. He bashed their poor old principal too. Terrible. ORAL SEX IS NOT SEX. Clinton said it. Doesn't he get it??

Click here for my response (http://home.cfl.rr.com/flbarretts/lewinsky.wav)

[Chris Rhines]

Golgo-13 -

Who says that just the liberals deprived my of my rights, huh?

I used to think of democrats and republicans as the Evil Party and the Stupid Party. It's still a funny slogan, but it's not correct. Both the elephants and the donkeys are both Evil and Stupid, at different times and in different ways.

- Chris

[Glock Glockler]

I don't like the misuse of the word "liberal", we should call them what they are: socialists.

They are successful because they are smart enough to use emotion to their advantage, which is a fantastically powerful tool for manipulation. Case in point: the new tax cut, and how they are referring it it as a "subsidy for the rich at the expense of the poor. I cannot comprehend how the govt is subsidizing anyone by letting them keep their own money, and I guess it is at the expense of the poor because that money the govt stole might have been used to grease the poor. So not greasing the poor with money that was stolen from the "rich" is actually a subsidy provided by the poor.

Is that logical? No. Is it effective? yes. The problem is that non-socialists overlook the emotional angle and try to make their case on logical merit, which is nether smart nor effective.

[Combat-wombat]

Yeah, I don't like the misuse of the word "liberal" either. I think liberal most of the time, just not democrat . Democrats are wrong, no question about it. But liberal thinking isn't all bad.

[Mike Irwin]

Silly boy.

Don't you know that if you're a liberal, you can't find employment in the mass media?

Hillary Clinton told us there is a vast right wing conspiracy that has taken over the nation's airwaves and newspapers...

[ravinraven]

We know that the liberal RUSH would bad-mouth Bush for paying attention to the constitution and trying to do away with the quota system for college entrance as practiced by the University of Michigan. However, would the liberal RUSH also be in favor of easing requirements for admission to sports teams? Why can't I get onto one of those money making basketball teams? I'm over 6 feet tall. That's a plus. I like money and girls even at my age -- that's another plus. I can't run or toss a ball through a hoop, but if I could get about 100 points for being old, fat, ugly and white, I'd be in. To keep me out, is racist, bigotted and whatever those other words that wonderful hate monger, Jesse Jackass, uses.

[Gray Peterson]

If the far Right were actually in control the Republican Party would be far different.

I'm just as fearful of a "far right controlled" Republican party as I am the socialists in both parties.

[westex]

The "far right" has never bothered me but maybe it's because they are usually left of me.:D

[ravinraven]

The far right is pro-total liberty. The far left is totalitarian. Nobody wants total liberty because total liberty means total responsibility for oneself. No social security. No paved roads, etc. We give up a little "liberty" to establish a sysem that can take care of some of our needs.

Along comes controllers from the left and pretty soon we have a totalitarian government such as Hitler installed in a hurry in Germany.

Hitler was a leftist. He was a totalitarian.

Whoops! I'm beginning to sound like that other RUSH. I'll lose my job for sure.

raving raven

[Waitone]

To be successful in the rarified atmosphere inhabited by Limbaugh you'll have to exhibit certain skills that have nothing to do with politics or ideology.

To wit

--The ability to emphatically present a position on day 1 that is conclusively shown to be wrong on day 2 and not mention it on day 3.

--Failed basic geometry. Basic geometry says two points determer a line. Limbaugh unfailingly uses one point (his experience) to determine a line.

--The ability to carefully construct straw men, then exhibit consummate skill in dismantling said straw men.

There are many other such skills necessary to be a successful talk show host. Please take time to consider you skills before trying out.

[Bainx]

I would like to add a few, just to round it out;)

#7 The Government owes me
#8 The city of ________ owes me
#9 The Government should protect my finances
#10 The corporates owe me for damaging our delicate environment
#11 The Government should provide for my total happiness
#12 The President of the United States controls our economy

I remember when the libs tried Charles Grodin as "the" liberal talk show host.
Just a few minutes of air time was enough to gag a buzzard on back of a ****wagon!