[10X]

Lion charge. Thought this was an interesting video.

http://www.truveo.com/Deer-Hunting-is-for-Pansies/id/2603387507

The camera man stayed right with it. I am not sure I would have if I only had a camera, not a rifle.

[DuncanSA]

Sorry - can't access the link. Some G****m online casino seems to have hijacked it.

[joebogey]

I've seen that more than once over the last year or so. What surprises me most is the fact that he didn't get hurt. Not from the lion, but from everybody around him takin shots.
Way too much lead flyin there for my taste. :eek:

[Reyn]

Here's one. This is what i call dropping at your feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yTNo36YOs


Duncan here it is on youtube. Maybe you can see it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFd8WEGUfjk&feature=related

[3pairs12]

Wow that doesn't look fun.

[TCB in TN]

I think I will pass. I have been charged by a 300+ lb Russian type boar, and that was plenty for me. I think the idea of standing there staring down that 500 lb cat as he comes to give you a big hug, is just a little to much for me.

[686S&W]

Soooooooo........Get a class 3, then go hunting with an 240-B or M-60E? :scrutiny:

Cool vid.

[Thernlund]

Here's one. This is what i call dropping at your feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yTNo36YOs

Good lord! That is one hard mf'er to stand stong and drop that cat. I'd have fudged the shot and been cat chow. Just wow.


-T.

[Reyn]

I cant tell if he is shooting a double rifle. 2 shots rang out almost together.

[littlegator]

That's the way huntin is spos'd to be. None of this pansy a** sitting up in a tree with yer bear call and honey scent all of the woods 20 feet below you. Just kidding... the guy in the 2nd video needs to be making commercials for the ammo he was using. Talk about stopping power and shot placement. Crazy.

[joebogey]

the guy in the 2nd video needs to be making commercials for the ammo he was using.

Along with baby wipes.
He probably needed them.
Once he got them drawers pulled out. :evil:

[Vern Humphrey]

In Quitman, Arkansas, not far from where I live, there is a "Big Cat Sanctuary." A few years ago, someone had several African lions he wanted to get rid of. But the sanctuary was full. So he just turned them loose in the woods.

After several panic calls from local farmers, the Sheriff came out with his deputies and a few M1As and shot them.

[Triple S]

It looks like they filmed a "canned" lion hunt. About 8-9 seconds into the video, it looks like a fence is on the right. Do you see that? Then a few seconds later, it pans to the left, and it looks like a long road going off in the distance with a fence running right up the middle of it. Kind of fishy to me.

[Rembrandt]

.....Deer hunting is for pansies...

Obviously you've never been charged by one of these.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Wildlife/KillerDeer.jpg

[351 WINCHESTER]

I see the fence. Don't want to corner a cat. Pardon my French, but those guys are piss poor shots and have no business hunting dangerous game. One of the hunters should have had a shotgun with buckshot.

[Jaenak]

Rembrandt, does anyone sell a mount of that "animal"? I want one. And a jackelope too.

Edit: I think that brings the concept of getting in touch with nature a little too far.

[FullyLoaded_FLBoy]

New poster here. Just wanted to add my .02. Let me start by saying I love to hunt all sorts of animals and I do so for a variety of reasons, be it for food, managing predators and nest raiders, or reducing feral populations. But something about lion hunting rubs me the wrong way. Anyone know why lions are hunted to begin with? If the guy was hunting for the sport of it, it's a shame the lion didn't inflict a little more damage....not life threatening, but at least leave a reminder.

[phantomak47]

This video has been brought up before, last time by me and it was locked..........

[gallo]

Hunters, their big rifles and their little guns. Funny how feeding deer year round and then shooting them from an outlook post at the place where they feed is considered a sport.

[Reyn]

New poster here. Just wanted to add my .02. Let me start by saying I love to hunt all sorts of animals and I do so for a variety of reasons, be it for food, managing predators and nest raiders, or reducing feral populations. But something about lion hunting rubs me the wrong way. Anyone know why lions are hunted to begin with? If the guy was hunting for the sport of it, it's a shame the lion didn't inflict a little more damage....not life threatening, but at least leave a reminder

Maybe they were hunting for the same reasons you do.

[FullyLoaded_FLBoy]

Maybe. That's why I posed the question.

[Reyn]

Hunters, their big rifles and their little guns. Funny how feeding deer year round and then shooting them from an outlook post at the place where they feed is considered a sport

What is your definition of sport?

[BIGR]

I love eating the grain fed deer, they are real tasty.

PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals

[eliphalet]

Hunters, their big rifles and their little guns. Funny how feeding deer year round and then shooting them from an outlook post at the place where they feed is considered a sportSo how do you fill your freezer with venison?

[Art Eatman]

Let's don't get too carried away with thread drift...

[gallo]

Reyn and Eliphalent,

It's fine to put food on your table by killing deer from an outlook post, just don't call it a sport or hunting because it's neither. If you actually track the deer with a rifle , preferably without a scope, and observe his actions for days and use that to ambush and hunt the animal, my congratulations. Consider yourself a worthy hunter, hang the animal's head above the chimney's mantel, whatever rocks your boat … you've earned bragging rights.

The way deer hunting has been commercialized few people have the time and access to land to really hunt, so most settle for the cheap thrill of shooting deer from a post. There is no honor in this activity for the animal or the "hunter."

A sport is not a sport if the adversary is at a disadvantage.

[joebogey]

It's fine to put food on your table by killing deer from an outlook post, just don't call it a sport or hunting because it's neither. If you actually track the deer with a rifle , preferably without a scope, and observe his actions for days and use that to ambush and hunt the animal, my congratulations. Consider yourself a worthy hunter, hang the animal's head above the chimney's mantel, whatever rocks your boat … you've earned bragging rights.

So if I find a feeding area that deer use every day (say a hay field or his favorite acorn tree) I can't shoot deer in that area, and have to track him away from said area before shooting without a scope in order for it to be considered hunting?

[Thernlund]

Funny how feeding deer year round and then shooting them from an outlook post at the place where they feed is considered a sport.There is no honor in this activity for the animal or the "hunter."

Maybe not "sport" by definition, but it's certainly not dishonorable. Better than cramped pens. Better than leading the animal via a rope through a chute and into a vice where its throat is cut with a 15" blade.

Hell, what if you had your average beef standing around on a bunch of fenced land doing whatever it is beef does with its time. Then instead of Joe Citizen going to the grocery store he had to drive out to the ranch. He was handed an adequate firearm, walked up to the fence, aimed, and killed his meat. STILL better, and gives Joe more of an appreciation.

Honor is nice if you're in for the thrill. But I say... make the average Joe either kill his dinner or each veggies forever. Both the man and the food would be better for it. We rule this planet. We eat animals. Doesn't have to be a hunt and it doesn't have to be "sport". But it should be done by Joe if he's the one who benefits.


-T.

[Sergeant Sabre]

Once again, the "real hunters" emerge to tell everybody else that they aren't really hunting!

[gallo]

Guys,

There is no shame in putting meet on your table weather you get it at the store or by shooting a deer from a post. Just don't dilute yourselves in thinking that you are engaged in an sportily event or an honorable hunt. Our ancestors risked life and limb to put food on their table because wally-mart was not around. An if they had to kill prey in ingenious ways it was fine because the other option was to starve. In today's society this is not the case. The only risk modern day hunters face is getting shot accidentally by another hunter.

Joebogey,

If you find a grazing area where deer eat and you can approach it without being noticed and make a kill that's fine. The animal has fair chance because he is instinctively on the defensive for predators. This is not the same as you or someone else feeding a deer year round and then one day shoot the unsuspecting animal.

[Reyn]

A sport is not a sport if the adversary is at a disadvantage

I dont consider a deer with all its senses at that much of a disadvantage. Your same point could be made for anyone who doesnt hunt with a spear as opposed to a rifle.

I mainly hunt public land and i scout and then use a climber. I had a very good season this year and killed 3 deer out of probably 50hrs on a stand.

[CoRoMo]

:eek::what::eek::what::eek::what::eek::what::eek::what::eek::what::eek::what:

I'd have fudged the shot...

I'd have fudged my pants!!

[eliphalet]

Personally I have never seen a nice heated warm stand or hunting over feed but to say guys that do are not honorable is IMHO a step to far. I have to strongly disagree with you Gallo, and will just leave it at that.

[K3]

I prefer more 'primitive' hunting where I wear out the soles of my boots a little, but I'll gladly say yes to any invitation to hunt from a heated box. With a recliner. And TV.

There are different shades of hunting IMO, but they all beat yardwork or the endless list of honey-dos.

Dangerous? I heard of hog hunts where you can make the kill with a knife. Sounds interesting on the one hand. On the other... I think an ass-kicking delivered by an angry or frightened animal would be worse than any I've gotten from a 2-legged critter. :D

[41magsnub]

Let's just take this to the extreme to end the argument. It is not sportsman like to use any sort of man made tool for deer hunting other than a rock or pointy stick. There, is everyone happy?

The arrogance of the "real hunters".. I tell ya.

[ojibweindian]

All this pontificating about "unsportsmanlike" hunting is farcical.

What's more sporting, the guy who puts in several months worth of work on a food plot, then wakes up 2-3 hours before twilight and hunts the food plot all day, or the person who wakes up a 7, gets to work at 9 then, at 11:30, goes to Micky D's to get a double cheeseburger?

No matter how it's done, there's a dead animal involved. At least the hunter is taking an active role in securing his meat. The other guy has someone else do his killing for him.

[JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone]

When I first read this post title, I thought 'aw here we go again'. There are shooters that don't support hunting.. So-be-it. But then there's only reference to Lion hunting. The charge. So many caps a'blastin.

Now.. Deer hunting is for pansies? I beg to differ. Those of us that really hunt. Those of us that wear out the soles of our boots in the real woods where anything can happen, from a fall to stumbling into a Griz or a Moose, not the draw down yonder past the farm fence or on the other side of the corn field. Those of us that don't drive to our elevated deer blind/stand 35yds from the feeder.. I'll add that the number one hunting accident during Deer season are the fellers that continually fall from tree stands. Knock your selves out boys! I'll try not to bend the definition of 'sporting'. So, if I wanted to shoot birdies, I'd just sit on the porch just down from the bird feeder? Food plots are BATE! Yes, the hunter is taking an active role. I do see that. But it is certainly not sporting.

McDees? That's a bloody SOY Burger!

C'mon!

Back to my point... I was DEER hunting, alone, IN THE NATIONAL FOREST and shot a 300+ pound Black Bear at 75 FEET. We were both, ON THE GROUND. Now, this may not be QUITE the same as a LION charge, but he did RUN right at me. If it were not for a windfall between us, well, I'll just say I'm happy there was. I got my Bear. Not a huge one, but big enough for me to respect him and other Bears in the woods.

When I was younger, I shot a good Blacktail Buck at less than 200yds. No big deal. I stroaled out to get him. As I reached for his rack to turn him over, He jumped to his feet and nearly gored me. I shot from the hip. No, not a Lion. Still an eye opening event.

-Steve

[ojibweindian]

Jack

Couldn't agree more! Hunting a food plot while in an elevated blind is not something I'm attracted to; I don't disparage it, but it's not for me.

I like getting out there. As a matter of fact, my favorite place is the Bankhead National Forest here in Alabama. Rugged terrain, lots of steep ridges, canyons, thick vegetation, etc. It's most certainly not a place where you can walk 100 yards off the road to a clearing.

To get a good deer there, you really have to bust your a** :D

[littlegator]

A sport is not a sport if the adversary is at a disadvantage.

Tell that to the NY Giants... :D

[Thernlund]

Deer hunting is for pansies? I beg to differ.

I think you missed the point... the thread title was tongue-in-cheek. Lighten up.

I got my Bear. Not a huge one, but big enough for me to respect him and other Bears in the woods.

I don't want to respect him, I want to eat him. I'm higher on the food chain... and HUNGRY! I may use bait or a stand because I'm smarter than he is. That's why I have a GUN and he doesn't.

Maybe you want to call it trapping rather than hunting. Whatever. I call it eating.


-T.

[Reyn]

[QUOTE][I like getting out there. As a matter of fact, my favorite place is the Bankhead National Forest here in Alabama. Rugged terrain, lots of steep ridges, canyons, thick vegetation, etc. It's most certainly not a place where you can walk 100 yards off the road to a clearing/QUOTE]

You need to put me on some deer. Im thinking about trying there next year. I saw the pics of a huge buck killed there this year.

[joebogey]

Joebogey,

If you find a grazing area where deer eat and you can approach it without being noticed and make a kill that's fine. The animal has fair chance because he is instinctively on the defensive for predators. This is not the same as you or someone else feeding a deer year round and then one day shoot the unsuspecting animal.

Here's my beef with your statement.
I hunt on private land, around 110 acres. Around here, that's a lot of land. Probably 35 acres of that is cropland, so I'm down to 75 acres. I only hunt that 75 acres because I don't have permission to go onto any other property surrounding that 110 acres.
On that farm I have 3 PVC gravity feed feeders which will hold right at 50 lbs of shelled corn. I do not hunt over the feeders, but use them to draw deer into the area. During mild weather, I'll feed 50 lbs per week. Once the weather gets bad, I'll feed 100 lbs per week. I feed from early fall till the grass begins to come on in the spring regardless of whether or not I kill 1 or 3or none. I do it to help the deer in the area get through the winter.

I also keep a gamecam over one of the feeders. Why? Cause I love to see what's eating out of my pocket money. I get a kick out of seeing the little ones, the bucks, the turkeys and squirrels, the whole bit. I've never killed a buck that I have on camera. I just don't see them when the season comes in.
And despite what you might see on TV, the deer do not line up waiting for their turn to eat. At least not here anyway.
Once the season starts, unless I can kill one opening day by some chance, I can sit for 3, sometimes 4 or 5 days at a time without seeing a deer. Mainly because once the season starts, all the habits they've followed for weeks, is out the door. They go nocturnal and feed only at night, when I can't legally hunt.
Now after sitting for 3 or 4 days freezing my azz off, you come along and make the comment that because I fed the deer I'm not a hunter, and heaven forbid that I use a scope.
Sorry Sir, but I have to disagree.

[JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone]

Now after sitting for 3 or 4 days freezing my azz off, you come along and make the comment that because I fed the deer I'm not a hunter,
I know that post wasn't directed at me... But

Sorry, that's not hunting in my book. I've never hunted private land. Never hunted where I would 'sit' for days. Davey Crocket didn't sit in a tree stand. He walked through the woods using skills he'd picked up over the years to hunt for food. Search, seek, sneak, track, make a clean shot and thank the good Lord above for the bounty.

There were several days last season when my 13 year old and I put on 12-14 miles on a day. Yes, ON FOOT! He was successful bagging his first deer. Mighty tasty!

I do understand feeding deer. Especially with the concept of helping the herd through tough winters. And there's nothing wrong with trail cameras. Just a high tech means of scouting. I can accept that. But people do hunt over feeders. People do bate other wild game where it's legal. I just don't think it's quite as sporting, that's all.

I do bait my hooks when fishing for Trout though.:D

-Steve

[joebogey]

There were several days last season when my 13 year old and I put on 12-14 miles on a day. Yes, ON FOOT!

Guys, you're missin the point here. I'm not out west. I'm not in Texas, or Kansas, or Illinois or Washington where I have 800, 900 or a 1,000 acres to hunt. I'm on a limited area where I have to try and scout a spot where I think deer might pass and hope I pick the right spot. And for gun season I only have 11 days or so to make it happen.
I do have public land to hunt, which for those 11 days is crawlin with hunters like fleas on a dogs back. No thanks.

12-14 miles on a day. Yes, ON FOOT!

I envy you for that. And before I got hit with RA I loved to walk as well. But I can't do that anymore.
I wish you and the son many happy days of it.

Now, I'll leave this subject to the professional hunters as it's pretty obvious I'm out of my league here.

[moooose102]

gallo MUST be a younger man in good shape. wait until your all busted up, old, and handicapped or disabled, THEN come and tell us your story again! for some of us, it isnt about being lazy. its a big challenge just to get out into the woods. if it was not for my 4x4, and hunting CLOSE to my suv, i, and a lot of hunters, could not even hunt. so sit there on your high horse and judge us. go ahead. at the end of the day, when all is said and done, it's the best i can do. if you don't like it, TUFF!

[JWarren]

I'm taking the "What is hunting arguement to a seperate thread to avoid cluttering this one up.


EDIT: Here is the thread...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=335788


-- John

[XDKingslayer]

Nope. Nuh-uh. That's the point where you climb a tree, scream unintelligbly and throw feces at it.

Hunters, their big rifles and their little guns. Funny how feeding deer year round and then shooting them from an outlook post at the place where they feed is considered a sport.

I'm not feeding them, I'm marinating them...

[Thernlund]

Sorry, that's not hunting in my book.

Your book is biased.


-T.

[Art Eatman]

All right. Enough arrogance and twittery!

The OP in a teasing manner showed that there is hazard in some hunting that does not exist in other hunting. That's it.

All this yah-yah about what is "real" hunting is foolish in the extreme.

By and large, one hunts within the milieu of the customs of the area in which you hunt. Period.

Enuf.

Art