Rare 357 Mag Ammo?

[Magnuumpwr]

OK, I could use some help. Going through my gun room and came across a single round of ammo I forgot about. I believe it was produced by "Hansen", but I am having trouble finding a web site. Below is a pic of this round. I purchased 4) 50 rd boxes back in the early 90's, being a dumba**, wasted all of it except for this one round. Any help locating some more would be greatly appreciated.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg205/magnuumpwr/357MagAP001.jpg

[1911Tuner]

Designation: "Metal Piercing" Not sure of the bullet weight in grains or the MV.

[351 WINCHESTER]

Winchester made a metal piercing load for the .357. My buddy and myself tried some on an engine block (cast iron) and it failed to penetrate. I believe it was a 158 gr. and as I recall it was loaded hot.

[1911Tuner]

My buddy and myself tried some on an engine block (cast iron) and it failed to penetrate.

Neither would .30-06 ball...

[alwilliam]

Looks like a METAL PIERCING round to me also..I have a cutaway I did around here someplace.

They were a very old school type ap round but also a really good ap round in some case out performing KTW.

Legal also....they were a just a very thick copper jacket over a lead wadcutter type bullet. They were HOT...the +p 38spl were a bit to hot...:D

[NORTEXED]

Remington made some that looked just like those in the 60's. They called theirs "Highway Master". I had a buddy that carried a Mod. 19, and in his belt loops, he carried 12 .357 125 gr., 6 of these, and 6 .38 shot shells. He was a Texas game warden.

[The Lone Haranguer]

I think these were made more to penetrate automotive body sheet metal than actual armor plate or engine blocks.

[highorder]

Winchester made a metal piercing load for the .357. My buddy and myself tried some on an engine block (cast iron) and it failed to penetrate. I believe it was a 158 gr. and as I recall it was loaded hot.

I happen to have six of them. Never fired one.

[Moonclip]

What does the headstamp say?

[Magnuumpwr]

Here is the headstamp.

[19-3Ben]

Hansen is Hansen Guns. They are in Southport CT about 10 miles from my house. They are one of the largest gun shops in the state. They don't put their name on ammo anymore but they used to import com-block stuff and put their name on it. I think they called themselves "hansen cartridge co." or something to that effect.
I can call them up later and ask about it if you want. I'm sure they might be able to shed some light on it (Assuming it's the same Hansen, but judging by the Cyrillic on the headstamp I'm gonna say it's a good bet).

[Magnuumpwr]

If you wouldn't mind Ben, I'd appreciate it. Just maybe they might have some stored up somewhere.

[SDC]

This is a Yugoslavian (the Cyrillic headstamp reads "PPU", used by Privi Partizan; their US importer was the Hansen Cartridge Co.) copy of the Remington "metal-piercing" round; as said above, this is a lead-core bullet with a thick conical "cap" on it to aid in piercing thin metal sheeting, but it's not considered true "armour-piercing" ammunition.

[Moonclip]

It's Yugoslav/Serbian the ammo is called Prvi partizan

[1 old 0311]

There is/was a Hansen Cartridge Company. I still have a few boxes of .22 ammo that I bought 10-20 years ago.

[.455_Hunter]

It looks very similar to the Fiocchi 142 gr. TC FMJ load...

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=913680&t=11082005

Muzzle Velocity: 1420 fps
Muzzle Energy: 650 ft. lbs.

Pretty hot load.

[19-3Ben]

Yeah no prob. I'll get on it this afternoon.
these are the guys:
http://www.hansenguns.com/

As I said, they imported ammo under the Hansen cartridge name.

[19-3Ben]

Sorry, i didn't get a chance to check. things have been crazy here. But i did remember that almost all the ammo they imported under their name is actually Igman brand ammo. Might provide a lead.

[Fozzy_Bear]

It looks kinda similar to a box of "special" ammo I bought years and years ago. It was 357 and had three separate bullets. the top (first) was a 75 grain copper jacketed steel cone followed by 2 25 grain flat wad-cutters. It the would put three holes in the target every shot... One on target, and to others slightly low and 5mm to the right and left.



It was an impulse buy really.

[Elvishead]

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Posts: 162 It looks very similar to the Fiocchi 142 gr. TC FMJ load...

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...680&t=11082005

Muzzle Velocity: 1420 fps
Muzzle Energy: 650 ft. lbs.

Pretty hot load.


Yep, that's what I was thinking about. The truncated cone bullet.
I use to get them for about $13 (50) a box up until of about a month ago. They are hot (1400 fps)

[Triple S]

I shot these at a friend's house over Thanksgiving through his ole', police issued .357. He was head of security on a large, private ranch in Florida during the late 70s and 80's. They were issued these bullets to shoot becuase they "could" go through a door or engine of a plane/car/or boat. During this time in Florida, they were having a huge problem with drug trafficking in that particular area, so they had a lot of help from the local police department and DEA to try and slow it down. ....During Thanksgiving, we tried shooting them through a 1/4" steel plate (Disc from a plow to be exact) but they would glance off.

[bannockburn]

1 old 0311

I stocked up on that Hansen .22LR standard velocity ammo. My Ruger 5 1/2" Bull Barrel Model shot some amazingly tight groups with it.