[Shooter973]

Will the high price of shot (around $50) per 25lb. bag cause damage to the Trap and Skeet shooting in your area? I think it will really cripple the shooting sports around here. :(

[Quigley]

Remember how we all reacted last year when it broke the $30 mark? Even at $50 it's still less than 15 cents a round for trap loads. It will probably cut down on the practice rounds. I'm sure we can still reload for less than $5 a box which might not seem bad after you see what new AA's cost this year.

[sm]

Gold was over $800 an ounce, economy was kaput, and all metals had increased.
Elections coming up too...

WE just attended parties of the "other party" and ate free food, nodded, and when the folks were not watching, stole got extra helpings of sprinkles and other toppings off desserts...
Raided the gumball machines for Chiclets gum...
The Nut assortments...

Hey, if it breaks, its broke!

Clay don't know if hit by lead, candied sprinkles, Chicklets, peanuts, ...*wink*

FWIW, it seems salted peanuts with the skins...pattern better.
Has to do with the salt and skin acting as a shot buffer....

*grin*

They think I am kidding, they don't know what all I and mine have reloaded and pattern tested, and busted clays with.

[Oldnamvet]

About all it has done around here is stifle reloading and have more people watching for the sales at Dunhams and Dicks. Since they brag they will match the others price, whichever is closest is greeted with the others sale flyers.:D
Of course there is also a longer pause for BS between rounds now but that may be due to the weather since we have a nice warming house at the skeet/trap area. People bring food and it turns into a social occasion until someone mentions that they should shoot at least 2 rounds in the whole afternoon.

[Zoogster]

Where do you get your 25 LB bags? Are they available in odd sizes like T-F?

[PJR]

About all it has done around here is stifle reloading
There is some of that in my area and it confuses me. Even with high lead prices my costs are below the premium shells and about on par with the promo loads. I use good components and my ammunition is better than the cheap stuff.

[TrapperReady]

There is some of that in my area and it confuses me. Even with high lead prices my costs are below the premium shells and about on par with the promo loads. I use good components and my ammunition is better than the cheap stuff.


PJR - Most (if not all) of the reloaders I know are frugal to a fault. OK, let's be honest... they're flat out cheap. Tightwads of the highest order. Frankly, I think they just can't wrap their heads around the price of reloading components -- lead in particular. It seems like they can only think about how little it cost a couple years ago, and at the current prices it just doesn't seem worth it, despite what the actual numbers might say.

I've actually started reloading again, because I can make high quality practice ammo for not much and save the factory stuff I've stockpiled for shooting registered events.

Of course, I probably shouldn't admit that I'm using lead, primers and wads that I purchased in considerable bulk almost four years ago. The bags of lead I'm using were purchased for a whopping $13.75 each.

[oletymer]

If there is no good price in your area you might want to consider buying here.
If you are not in Washington then there is no tax.
http://conniescomponents.com/lead_shot_1.html

[classic095]

Couple of ya go together and buy a shotmaker, then go around all the tire shops and beg lead.. thats what we do and I keep around 300 lbs of shot on hand all the time.. Havent bought shot in two years..

[PJR]

Most (if not all) of the reloaders I know are frugal to a fault. OK, let's be honest... they're flat out cheap.
So true. I didn't know how cheap until I saw a guy going down range to recover used wads. :eek:

I went through a period where I didn't reload but came back to it after I couldn't get a good supply of 7/8s factory 12 gauge. I've also done enough patterning and chronying to not hold the promo loads in high regard. I reload as much for quality and the economic benefits are secondary.

A good reload is comparable to the premium AA, STS or Gold Medal for less. It is comparable in price to the promo load but is a better shell. And I can shoot the load I want to shoot, not the one the factory wants to provide.

I wince a little at the price of lead but I'll cut corners in a whole lot of other pursuits before it cuts back on my shooting. I am however shooting more 7/8s these days. A bag of lead goes further, it's easier on my shoulder and the targets don't seem to be breaking less often :)

[TrapperReady]

PJR - For the last three years, almost all of the shells I've used have been 1 oz factory loads. Prior to that, I'd experimented a lot with 7/8 oz and found some recipes that I like.

Well, now I'm hoarding the factory 1 oz loads for competition and am reloading all of my practice shells at 7/8 oz. They're working so well that I'm very likely to use them in competition as well. Right now, I'm running 7/8 oz of #7.5 shot at 1300fps through IM chokes. With that combo, I'm able to consistently pound targets at any distance I'm likely to see them thrown.

[Dave McCracken]

7/8 oz loads mean 450-couple per bag of shot. Current load uses West Coast 7.5s at a nominal 1225 FPS. Chokes run 16 and 23 POC from the B gun and 15 from Number 6. If anything, breaks are better than with Gun Clubs or Walmart Valupaks.

[foghornl]

They think I am kidding, they don't know what all I and mine have reloaded and pattern tested, and busted clays with.
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Ok, question for you, Steve...

What patterns better...Kix, Trix, Cocoa Puffs or Rice Krispies? Name Brands or 'generics'??? ;)

\\\\\Wise N. Hiemer mode off

Yeah, I did some 'ahem' "Scientific Studies of Various Non-Round No-Lead Shotgun Projectiles" during my [somewhat] mis-spent youth. Just for the record, Corn Flakes don't pattern worth a Hoot-In-Hades...... {insert wickedly foolish grin here} :D:evil: And they plug the gas ports on a Rem 1100 pretty good, too :evil::evil: Brother wondered why his Remmy didn't work so good next time out, but hey, I did the "Sgt. Schultz" routine..."I know nothing...NOTH--ING"

And small 'finishing nails' ain't so great as flechettes, either :eek::eek:

[M2 Carbine]

There's a short article in the Rifleman about the price of lead going from $450 a ton to $3,200 just this year.

You think shot is high now, wait until next year.


Most (if not all) of the reloaders I know are frugal to a fault. OK, let's be honest... they're flat out cheap. Tightwads of the highest order.

You bet. That's why for some years to come my ammo will still cost $4.00/50 and I'm still shooting 7.62x39 Wolf that cost me $54/1,000.:)